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BlG MAMA Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2013.04.24 10:44:00 - [1] - Quote Just curious
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 71	Posted - 2013.04.24 10:47:00 - [2] - Quote I don-¦t. But i do like killing the ones who do buy equip with it =) (Implement Killmails CCP!)
Geth Massredux Defensores Doctrina 179	Posted - 2013.04.24 10:48:00 - [3] - Quote Another P2W post, somebody shoot me!!!!
BlG MAMA Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2013.04.24 10:50:00 - [4] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: Another P2W post, somebody shoot me!!!! just answer of get
Spectral Clone Vacuum Cleaner. LLC 4	Posted - 2013.04.24 10:50:00 - [5] - Quote I guess people buy AUR items to progress faster (as intended). AUR items has a lower skill requirements to use than ISK - Progress to "end game gear" faster. Boosters - Obvious.
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 71	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:04:00 - [6] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: I guess people buy AUR items to progress faster (as intended). AUR items has a lower skill requirements to use than ISK - Progress to "end game gear" faster. Boosters - Obvious. No no no, you-¦re not playing right. He wants you to say that "I buy AUR items because they-¦re P2W, and i-¦m invincible with them, i just join a match and my team wins with my mere presence" Because you know, that-¦s what happens with AUR items. They give victories and Unicorns.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 154	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:26:00 - [7] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious no# 1.) AUR gear is nice to buy and test out with. For example, yesterday I made a Vk 0 suit with Two complex Armor reps, and Two Complex armor plates. However I only have advanced level SP for either of them. SO I was able to test it before I made the leap and spent another 200k SP on it. no# 2.) AUR allows for the purchase of SP boosters, which in turn allows you to Skill up A LOT faster.... or... well a bit faster anyway. However at the end it doesn't matter because over time everyone is going to platue out anyway. So yes it buys a temporary advantage, but even now people without boosters can still beat me, there was just a time when I had my proto suit a week before a lot of other people is all. no# 3.) AUR is not pay to win because of a simple mechanic CCP put in. Anything you buy with AUR has an ISK counterpart. Simple as that. If your don't want to spend money then OK! BUT you have to put a little extra time into the game to unlock whatever it is you want. Now there are a few items right now that don't have ISK counterparts but im pretty sure that was just a slip up on CCP's part and there looking into it now.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 272	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:27:00 - [8] - Quote To save ISK I have 10 AUR tanks, they are half price to my normal ISK tanks so i save ISK if i lose one Also mainly for testing stuff out if i have AUR to spare
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 397	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:31:00 - [9] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: To save ISK I have 10 AUR tanks, they are half price to my normal ISK tanks so i save ISK if i lose one Also mainly for testing stuff out if i have AUR to spare That would be assuming ISK == AUR value
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries 142	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:33:00 - [10] - Quote "AUR lets you do more faster visit your local market for details"

BlG MAMA Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:34:00 - [11] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: I guess people buy AUR items to progress faster (as intended). AUR items has a lower skill requirements to use than ISK - Progress to "end game gear" faster. Boosters - Obvious. No no no, you-¦re not playing right. He wants you to say that "I buy AUR items because they-¦re P2W, and i-¦m invincible with them, i just join a match and my team wins with my mere presence" Because you know, that-¦s what happens with AUR items. They give victories and Unicorns. finally admited
Noraa Anderson Bojo's School of the Trades 191	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:36:00 - [12] - Quote To support the wonderful developers in making the greatest MMOFPS to accompany the greatest MMOSPREADSHEET.
Nstomper Disqualified 227	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:36:00 - [13] - Quote Aur isnt p2w it just lets get you things faster thats all it is and your asking why its there in the first place? Thats the stupidest question the developers have to make money someone , and if you do buy aur and when you die you lose that gear just like you lose isk gear so its not winning at all , you want to see a real P2W game? Look at dc unverse online that game is too p2w and its getting worse
BlG MAMA Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:38:00 - [14] - Quote Marston VC wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious no# 1.) AUR gear is nice to buy and test out with. For example, yesterday I made a Vk 0 suit with Two complex Armor reps, and Two Complex armor plates. However I only have advanced level SP for either of them. SO I was able to test it before I made the leap and spent another 200k SP on it. no# 2.) AUR allows for the purchase of SP boosters, which in turn allows you to Skill up A LOT faster.... or... well a bit faster anyway. However at the end it doesn't matter because over time everyone is going to platue out anyway. So yes it buys a temporary advantage, but even now people without boosters can still beat me, there was just a time when I had my proto suit a week before a lot of other people is all. no# 3.) AUR is not pay to win because of a simple mechanic CCP put in. Anything you buy with AUR has an ISK counterpart. Simple as that. If your don't want to spend money then OK! BUT you have to put a little extra time into the game to unlock whatever it is you want. Now there are a few items right now that don't have ISK counterparts but im pretty sure that was just a slip up on CCP's part and there looking into it now. i want to unlock AURUM stuff with ISK
ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI Bragian Order Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:40:00 - [15] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: Marston VC wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious no# 1.) AUR gear is nice to buy and test out with. For example, yesterday I made a Vk 0 suit with Two complex Armor reps, and Two Complex armor plates. However I only have advanced level SP for either of them. SO I was able to test it before I made the leap and spent another 200k SP on it. no# 2.) AUR allows for the purchase of SP boosters, which in turn allows you to Skill up A LOT faster.... or... well a bit faster anyway. However at the end it doesn't matter because over time everyone is going to platue out anyway. So yes it buys a temporary advantage, but even now people without boosters can still beat me, there was just a time when I had my proto suit a week before a lot of other people is all. no# 3.) AUR is not pay to win because of a simple mechanic CCP put in. Anything you buy with AUR has an ISK counterpart. Simple as that. If your don't want to spend money then OK! BUT you have to put a little extra time into the game to unlock whatever it is you want. Now there are a few items right now that don't have ISK counterparts but im pretty sure that was just a slip up on CCP's part and there looking into it now. i want to unlock AURUM stuff with ISK My goodness if this big mama person wasnt such a newbie she or he would know the marketplace system isnt in the game yet
BlG MAMA Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:42:00 - [16] - Quote ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Marston VC wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious no# 1.) AUR gear is nice to buy and test out with. For example, yesterday I made a Vk 0 suit with Two complex Armor reps, and Two Complex armor plates. However I only have advanced level SP for either of them. SO I was able to test it before I made the leap and spent another 200k SP on it. no# 2.) AUR allows for the purchase of SP boosters, which in turn allows you to Skill up A LOT faster.... or... well a bit faster anyway. However at the end it doesn't matter because over time everyone is going to platue out anyway. So yes it buys a temporary advantage, but even now people without boosters can still beat me, there was just a time when I had my proto suit a week before a lot of other people is all. no# 3.) AUR is not pay to win because of a simple mechanic CCP put in. Anything you buy with AUR has an ISK counterpart. Simple as that. If your don't want to spend money then OK! BUT you have to put a little extra time into the game to unlock whatever it is you want. Now there are a few items right now that don't have ISK counterparts but im pretty sure that was just a slip up on CCP's part and there looking into it now. i want to unlock AURUM stuff with ISK My goodness if this big mama person wasnt such a newbie she or he would know the marketplace system isnt in the game yet and you really belive someone will trade AURUM stuff for stuff that can buy themself with ISK?
ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI Bragian Order Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:44:00 - [17] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Marston VC wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious no# 1.) AUR gear is nice to buy and test out with. For example, yesterday I made a Vk 0 suit with Two complex Armor reps, and Two Complex armor plates. However I only have advanced level SP for either of them. SO I was able to test it before I made the leap and spent another 200k SP on it. no# 2.) AUR allows for the purchase of SP boosters, which in turn allows you to Skill up A LOT faster.... or... well a bit faster anyway. However at the end it doesn't matter because over time everyone is going to platue out anyway. So yes it buys a temporary advantage, but even now people without boosters can still beat me, there was just a time when I had my proto suit a week before a lot of other people is all. no# 3.) AUR is not pay to win because of a simple mechanic CCP put in. Anything you buy with AUR has an ISK counterpart. Simple as that. If your don't want to spend money then OK! BUT you have to put a little extra time into the game to unlock whatever it is you want. Now there are a few items right now that don't have ISK counterparts but im pretty sure that was just a slip up on CCP's part and there looking into it now. i want to unlock AURUM stuff with ISK My goodness if this big mama person wasnt such a newbie she or he would know the marketplace system isnt in the game yet and you really belive someone will trade AURUM stuff for stuff that can buy themself with ISK? Keep trying to troll you are doing a terrible job maybe i should teach you later on
xaerael Kabiel Immobile Infantry 34	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:44:00 - [18] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: Marston VC wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious no# 1.) AUR gear is nice to buy and test out with. For example, yesterday I made a Vk 0 suit with Two complex Armor reps, and Two Complex armor plates. However I only have advanced level SP for either of them. SO I was able to test it before I made the leap and spent another 200k SP on it. no# 2.) AUR allows for the purchase of SP boosters, which in turn allows you to Skill up A LOT faster.... or... well a bit faster anyway. However at the end it doesn't matter because over time everyone is going to platue out anyway. So yes it buys a temporary advantage, but even now people without boosters can still beat me, there was just a time when I had my proto suit a week before a lot of other people is all. no# 3.) AUR is not pay to win because of a simple mechanic CCP put in. Anything you buy with AUR has an ISK counterpart. Simple as that. If your don't want to spend money then OK! BUT you have to put a little extra time into the game to unlock whatever it is you want. Now there are a few items right now that don't have ISK counterparts but im pretty sure that was just a slip up on CCP's part and there looking into it now. i want to unlock AURUM stuff with ISK Why? Aside from the lowered skill reqs, they will be totally the same as isk versions come may 6th. The only thing you won't be able to get with isk is boosters, and that's pretty much how CCP will make money out of this game. And boosters still don't give anything you can't get by playing the game without. You just get things at an accelerated rate. You keep crying about P2W this and P2W that. If it's hurting your feelings that much, and you're so determined to not pay a penny towards the game, I'm sure no one will miss you if you leave.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 2	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:45:00 - [19] - Quote I've gotten boosters since day uno. And I due it to have a ADVANTAGE. Not game breaking BUT STILL ADVANTAGE over those that don't. Yeah, Yeah I'll get kills with a militia suit, IF I stick to a team that knows what they or doing. But Here's the break down ADVANCED SUIT. Skilled player> Militia Suit. skilled player. Militia Suit. Skilled player. > Advanced Suit. Noob. There is an advantage. Hence why I have ADVANCED suits. I have one proto and that is for only the war barge. (lobby) I wear it for the ladies. Hi.
GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD 376	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:47:00 - [20] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: and you really belive someone will trade AURUM stuff for stuff that can buy themself with ISK? No, but I do expect people with lots of ISK to find people with Aurum stuff to sell when we finally get trading running. Right now there is a small selection of supremacy goods available. According to CCP they are being removed. We will have to wait and see. SP boosters, and the aurum items that are designed to allow you early access to items are not P2W at all.

BlG MAMA Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:49:00 - [21] - Quote xaerael Kabiel wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Marston VC wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious no# 1.) AUR gear is nice to buy and test out with. For example, yesterday I made a Vk 0 suit with Two complex Armor reps, and Two Complex armor plates. However I only have advanced level SP for either of them. SO I was able to test it before I made the leap and spent another 200k SP on it. no# 2.) AUR allows for the purchase of SP boosters, which in turn allows you to Skill up A LOT faster.... or... well a bit faster anyway. However at the end it doesn't matter because over time everyone is going to platue out anyway. So yes it buys a temporary advantage, but even now people without boosters can still beat me, there was just a time when I had my proto suit a week before a lot of other people is all. no# 3.) AUR is not pay to win because of a simple mechanic CCP put in. Anything you buy with AUR has an ISK counterpart. Simple as that. If your don't want to spend money then OK! BUT you have to put a little extra time into the game to unlock whatever it is you want. Now there are a few items right now that don't have ISK counterparts but im pretty sure that was just a slip up on CCP's part and there looking into it now. i want to unlock AURUM stuff with ISK Why? Aside from the lowered skill reqs, they will be totally the same as isk versions come may 6th. The only thing you won't be able to get with isk is boosters, and that's pretty much how CCP will make money out of this game. And boosters still don't give anything you can't get by playing the game without. You just get things at an accelerated rate. You keep crying about P2W this and P2W that. If it's hurting your feelings that much, and you're so determined to not pay a penny towards the game, I'm sure no one will miss you if you leave. ofc CCP wont miss me , i dont buy AUR
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 226	Posted - 2013.04.24 11:57:00 - [22] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious Because knowing just a tad about software development and economics I can tell you that nothing is "Free". Free to play games need just as much money as subscription games to make (And games cost a TON). It's long hard work so to support the Devs and feed them I'll throw a little cash at the game. Also note that without a solid subscription rate, a method I always prefer in games, FTP games essentially require the more mature, paying customers to subsidize 'free' players. So lets say Dust would be sustainable at $15/mo For every person who never gives them a dime, one person has to pay $30 to keep the game a float. Or if 3 people don't pay, one has to cover the expense at $60. See where this is going? Now the proportion of free players to paying players varies from game to game. I imagine the more balanced it is, the better. Also note that this is where real pay to win games ruin gameplay. They design a generally fun game but place a layer over top it which consists of new game called "Who has the bigger wallet!". Some very sad, pathetic people who I truly pity get into the wallet-duel and will go head to head with someone else at thousands and thousands of dollars each. Those are the games where 1/1000 people are Not free players. It's always a shame for me to see all the work going into a game that could be fun, being erased by the money-meta game inside it. Dust hopefully aims to maintain avoiding this scenario. By only selling convenience items and cosmetics they make it so it's not necessarily the case that a person who wants to essentially donate $200/mo to Dust, isn't given an IWIN item to always beat other players who pay between $0-99. Note that even the larger things you can buy so far like AUR tanks die just as easily in 2 shots to a militia forge gun that costs 2,000 ISK.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 2	Posted - 2013.04.24 12:13:00 - [23] - Quote Bloody hell. Sometimes when I read at how people here get more excited about doing other things then battling I think EVE players. Then I think "I hope this game doesn't become a nerd fest, where everyone spends MOST of there time doing everything else but battling. Yes, I get it. It's a new chapter to the EVE Universe. OMG, the implications of how it could affect that universe!! ... no I actually don't care about eve. I've played it. Not my cup of tea. more power to those that like it. BUT THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE AN FPS. A FPS That doesn't seem to understand basic FPS mechanics. Because it's core are RPG loving eve players that don't understand what makes FPS an FPS. No, not cod or halo. But even them have the rudimentary of what a fps is.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 123	Posted - 2013.04.24 12:23:00 - [24] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Marston VC wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious no# 1.) AUR gear is nice to buy and test out with. For example, yesterday I made a Vk 0 suit with Two complex Armor reps, and Two Complex armor plates. However I only have advanced level SP for either of them. SO I was able to test it before I made the leap and spent another 200k SP on it. no# 2.) AUR allows for the purchase of SP boosters, which in turn allows you to Skill up A LOT faster.... or... well a bit faster anyway. However at the end it doesn't matter because over time everyone is going to platue out anyway. So yes it buys a temporary advantage, but even now people without boosters can still beat me, there was just a time when I had my proto suit a week before a lot of other people is all. no# 3.) AUR is not pay to win because of a simple mechanic CCP put in. Anything you buy with AUR has an ISK counterpart. Simple as that. If your don't want to spend money then OK! BUT you have to put a little extra time into the game to unlock whatever it is you want. Now there are a few items right now that don't have ISK counterparts but im pretty sure that was just a slip up on CCP's part and there looking into it now. i want to unlock AURUM stuff with ISK My goodness if this big mama person wasnt such a newbie she or he would know the marketplace system isnt in the game yet and you really belive someone will trade AURUM stuff for stuff that can buy themself with ISK? Yes.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2590	Posted - 2013.04.24 12:56:00 - [25] - Quote Why do I buy AUR gear? Because they don't sell BPOs for ISK, and buying those saves me ISK which I can spend on fittings to use when I'm playing seriously.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 502	Posted - 2013.04.24 13:26:00 - [26] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Just curious Because knowing just a tad about software development and economics I can tell you that nothing is "Free". Free to play games need just as much money as subscription games to make (And games cost a TON). It's long hard work so to support the Devs and feed them I'll throw a little cash at the game. Also note that without a solid subscription rate, a method I always prefer in games, FTP games essentially require the more mature, paying customers to subsidize 'free' players... Exactly. I do it to feed the developers and their families. They're living the dream making games. Someone decided to make the game free-to-play so we have to support them somehow. Spend some Aurum and put food on their tables.
Frank Devine ZionTCD 129	Posted - 2013.04.24 14:22:00 - [27] - Quote there's two reasons to buy it, reason number one because people like me have jobs, kids, a wife life outside of playing video games and the only way that we can keep up is to buy. Reason number 2 to buy skill boosters so you can get skills faster. Why is it that some people just don't get it and have to ask the same dumb questions over and over again?
BlG MAMA Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2013.04.24 14:24:00 - [28] - Quote Frank Devine wrote: there's two reasons to buy it, reason number one because people like me have jobs, kids, a wife life outside of playing video games and the only way that we can keep up is to buy. Reason number 2 to buy skill boosters so you can get skills faster. Why is it that some people just don't get it and have to ask the same dumb questions over and over again? because everyone gives the answer that suits them better and avoids the real issue
Frank Devine ZionTCD 129	Posted - 2013.04.24 14:27:00 - [29] - Quote k so now I am dying to hear what is the real issue/
BlG MAMA Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 55	Posted - 2013.04.24 14:30:00 - [30] - Quote Frank Devine wrote: k so now I am dying to hear what is the real issue/ Greed



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