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J Lav
Lost-Legion Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.22 22:51:00 -
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So in my limited knowledge, I was under the impression that a mercenary works for people, usually to the highest bidder. I'm a little confused about this whole, "own a piece of New Eden" concept. I don't care about controlling a district, I'm a mercenary for hire. So PC sounds like a nice way for people who want to role play as a business man in Eve, but I don't understand why a mercenary would care.
Understand this isn't about Planetary Conquest so much as it is about the game in its present focus. I haven't seen anything about expanding options as pertain to me playing as a mercenary. Contract negotiation, setting my price, managing my assets and cultivating a relationship with repeat clients. How about fighting for a cause? Are these things other players want as well? |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
184
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Posted - 2013.04.22 22:55:00 -
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J Lav wrote:So in my limited knowledge, I was under the impression that a mercenary works for people, usually to the highest bidder. I'm a little confused about this whole, "own a piece of New Eden" concept. I don't care about controlling a district, I'm a mercenary for hire. So PC sounds like a nice way for people who want to role play as a business man in Eve, but I don't understand why a mercenary would care.
Understand this isn't about Planetary Conquest so much as it is about the game in its present focus. I haven't seen anything about expanding options as pertain to me playing as a mercenary. Contract negotiation, setting my price, managing my assets and cultivating a relationship with repeat clients. How about fighting for a cause? Are these things other players want as well? apparently, these are all coming soon. Eventually, we will be able to get contracts from dust and EVE corps alike. Unfortunately, CCP seems to be going in a different direction with fighting for a cause, as according to a certain thread, they believe mercs should fight for the highest bidder. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
932
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Posted - 2013.04.22 22:55:00 -
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DUST doesn't support mercenaries at the moment, sorry. Maybe later. |
Hop3LesS
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.04.22 22:56:00 -
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Yes... |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
381
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Posted - 2013.04.22 22:59:00 -
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Yes, I would like a proper contract system, where EVE or Dust corps can anonymously hire Dust mercs or Dust corps to do their bidding.
Current Dust corps are not really merc corps, at least in the sense the we think of mercs irl or in most scifi literature. They are more like EVE corps, and are interested in controlling space. In fact, as you you probably know, most of the biggest corps have very close ties to EVE corps and alliances. True merc corps probably would view controlling planets as a distraction and waste of time.
The best trailer for Dust is where the contract changes due to betrayal. That's the gameplay I want in Dust. Ruthless, brutal, relentless.
But until we get a contract system we're stuck with what we have. I'm sure it's coming SoonGäó.
slypie11 wrote:Unfortunately, CCP seems to be going in a different direction with fighting for a cause, as according to a certain thread, they believe mercs should fight for the highest bidder.
Unfortunately? Money is the cause for a merc. Sure, you could have Minmatar RP corps which only take minnie missions, but those would be in the minority. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
184
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:07:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:Yes, I would like a proper contract system, where EVE or Dust corps can anonymously hire Dust mercs or Dust corps to do their bidding. Current Dust corps are not really merc corps, at least in the sense the we think of mercs irl or in most scifi literature. They are more like EVE corps, and are interested in controlling space. In fact, as you you probably know, most of the biggest corps have very close ties to EVE corps and alliances. True merc corps probably would view controlling planets as a distraction and waste of time. The best trailer for Dust is where the contract changes due to betrayal. That's the gameplay I want in Dust. Ruthless, brutal, relentless. But until we get a contract system we're stuck with what we have. I'm sure it's coming SoonGäó. slypie11 wrote:Unfortunately, CCP seems to be going in a different direction with fighting for a cause, as according to a certain thread, they believe mercs should fight for the highest bidder. Unfortunately? Money is the cause for a merc. Sure, you could have Minmatar RP corps which only take minnie missions, but those would be in the minority. true, but I would like to see a system where if you complete missions for only one corp, they trust you and give you more missions or money, but if your a very successful corp with a good track record but act as a free agent, everyone pays you more and more because they're all fighting for your loyalty. |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
381
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:29:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:Arramakaian Eka wrote:Yes, I would like a proper contract system, where EVE or Dust corps can anonymously hire Dust mercs or Dust corps to do their bidding. Current Dust corps are not really merc corps, at least in the sense the we think of mercs irl or in most scifi literature. They are more like EVE corps, and are interested in controlling space. In fact, as you you probably know, most of the biggest corps have very close ties to EVE corps and alliances. True merc corps probably would view controlling planets as a distraction and waste of time. The best trailer for Dust is where the contract changes due to betrayal. That's the gameplay I want in Dust. Ruthless, brutal, relentless. But until we get a contract system we're stuck with what we have. I'm sure it's coming SoonGäó. slypie11 wrote:Unfortunately, CCP seems to be going in a different direction with fighting for a cause, as according to a certain thread, they believe mercs should fight for the highest bidder. Unfortunately? Money is the cause for a merc. Sure, you could have Minmatar RP corps which only take minnie missions, but those would be in the minority. true, but I would like to see a system where if you complete missions for only one corp, they trust you and give you more missions or money, but if your a very successful corp with a good track record but act as a free agent, everyone pays you more and more because they're all fighting for your loyalty.
That's what I also implied in my posts. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
184
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:32:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:slypie11 wrote:Arramakaian Eka wrote:Yes, I would like a proper contract system, where EVE or Dust corps can anonymously hire Dust mercs or Dust corps to do their bidding. Current Dust corps are not really merc corps, at least in the sense the we think of mercs irl or in most scifi literature. They are more like EVE corps, and are interested in controlling space. In fact, as you you probably know, most of the biggest corps have very close ties to EVE corps and alliances. True merc corps probably would view controlling planets as a distraction and waste of time. The best trailer for Dust is where the contract changes due to betrayal. That's the gameplay I want in Dust. Ruthless, brutal, relentless. But until we get a contract system we're stuck with what we have. I'm sure it's coming SoonGäó. slypie11 wrote:Unfortunately, CCP seems to be going in a different direction with fighting for a cause, as according to a certain thread, they believe mercs should fight for the highest bidder. Unfortunately? Money is the cause for a merc. Sure, you could have Minmatar RP corps which only take minnie missions, but those would be in the minority. true, but I would like to see a system where if you complete missions for only one corp, they trust you and give you more missions or money, but if your a very successful corp with a good track record but act as a free agent, everyone pays you more and more because they're all fighting for your loyalty. That's what I also implied in my posts. Yay, we're like brothers, only i'm cooler! |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
381
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:22:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:Arramakaian Eka wrote:slypie11 wrote:Arramakaian Eka wrote:Yes, I would like a proper contract system, where EVE or Dust corps can anonymously hire Dust mercs or Dust corps to do their bidding. Current Dust corps are not really merc corps, at least in the sense the we think of mercs irl or in most scifi literature. They are more like EVE corps, and are interested in controlling space. In fact, as you you probably know, most of the biggest corps have very close ties to EVE corps and alliances. True merc corps probably would view controlling planets as a distraction and waste of time. The best trailer for Dust is where the contract changes due to betrayal. That's the gameplay I want in Dust. Ruthless, brutal, relentless. But until we get a contract system we're stuck with what we have. I'm sure it's coming SoonGäó. slypie11 wrote:Unfortunately, CCP seems to be going in a different direction with fighting for a cause, as according to a certain thread, they believe mercs should fight for the highest bidder. Unfortunately? Money is the cause for a merc. Sure, you could have Minmatar RP corps which only take minnie missions, but those would be in the minority. true, but I would like to see a system where if you complete missions for only one corp, they trust you and give you more missions or money, but if your a very successful corp with a good track record but act as a free agent, everyone pays you more and more because they're all fighting for your loyalty. That's what I also implied in my posts. Yay, we're like brothers, only i'm cooler!
Hugs all around. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
47
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:29:00 -
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Definitely need more sand... |
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WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
127
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:36:00 -
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Main reason I don't care about PC, haven't read any blogs nor rumors abput it. It's something pertaining to CEOs I think. I'm goddamn merc, I just care about doing my job and making money. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
186
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:38:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Main reason I don't care about PC, haven't read any blogs nor rumors abput it. It's something pertaining to CEOs I think. I'm goddamn merc, I just care about doing my job and making money. **** bitches get paper |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
127
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:42:00 -
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Add that to the fact that most corps are just fps clans, with no taxes nor salaries nor business management. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
66
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Posted - 2013.04.23 00:44:00 -
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why not both pure mercs and nationalists. We have plenty for the highest bidder, and fight for any side right now with endless battles between empire factions that primary (not noticeably) benefit mainly them, and not dust mercs.
Take over a planet for yourself, or someone else? |
Kiro Justice
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
18
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:58:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Add that to the fact that most corps are just fps clans, with no taxes nor salaries nor business management.
I dunno, at Tritan we're kinda...A business model and such, and we can't wait for PC...I mean...Fighting for Territory for ourselves AND others (Others meaning whoever pays us) seems like a Merc-esque thing to do. |
Boxoffire
Lost-Legion Orion Empire
52
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:19:00 -
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Not yet but at one point, I wouldn't be surprised if Corps start to only fight where there big bucks are. Hmm, an interesting thing to consider is if DUST Corps will start setting prices for their services. If they know they are good they can take advantage of that and raise the prices. Then, things will start to get real interesting. |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
417
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:31:00 -
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If you want to be a freelance mercenary, and not belong to any player based corp, that's fine, but you MUST belong to at least your own one-man corp. This universe is driven by corporations. And when you own your own corp, you might find that mercenary work alone isn't enough to keep you happy. In order to keep your one-man corp afloat, You might want some sustained income.
Thats where districts come in. Districts supply sustainable income for DUST mercs.
Now, maybe you DON'T need a district. But say you join an alliance, an EVE alliance. And they DO want districts. So they ask you to go out and take some for them. You being in their employ, would typically mean you're "bound" to do their bidding. And they will return the favor.
It's not a very fleshed-out system, and given time, we will have ACTUAL contracts and such to sort it all out, but currently, we just have to use a little.. imaginaaaaaaaaaaation. :P |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
127
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:36:00 -
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Another thing is that corps aren't getting isk when losing from corp battles. If the losing corp could get like 25% of the contract then we would see more CBs. And mercs don't get isk from participating in those, wth... Things could be more interesting if taxes are implemented as well. |
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