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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.20 21:23:00 -
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I see tanks **** face in assault games all the time, so long as they are not on a scrubby team. I think tanks are still OP because they are too mobile - the second they go into a risk zone they just throttle and drive off to rep. People complain about things like "my elite tank can be lost within 30 seconds to AV" - I laugh at this: 30 seconds is near infinity in FPS - defnitely enough time for a tank to escape. I also find that tanks are not used as a balancing factor, right now they are used as proto suits - only when one side knows that they are winning they feel comfortable rolling out the tanks. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
166
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Posted - 2013.04.20 21:29:00 -
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Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote:The extremely varied responses from the anti-HAV crowd is pretty interesting.
There's a group of people saying what amounts to "If you use a HAV solo you deserve to lose it", because while it's perfectly okay for a dropsuit to be a viable solo option, vehicles must be completely non-viable without the support of a dedicated squad.
On the other end is the "HAVs OP" crowd. Like the guy up above a little ways, upset that he can't take out a HAV with a single magazine of his standard swarm launcher. Turns out that despite the first group making it clear that HAVs must be squad weapons, an AV user should still be able to solo it.
Of course dropsuits can be used solo, unless you talking about one of those dropsuits piloted by dwarfs where they stand on each others shoulders. Dropsuits are human sized mechs so to speak. They only need one person because you can just move and it moves with you. Tanks, on the other hand, are building sized machines of destruction, so of course you need more than one person. Your argument is completely invalid. And, if you had read my post "up a little ways", you would have seen that I was complaining about my ENTIRE TEAM running standard to advanced AV gear and not being able to take out a single blaster tanks that was shooting us from across the map. Learn to read or GTFO |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
158
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Posted - 2013.04.20 21:35:00 -
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Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:Tanks are so OP, It's so hard to kill them with my free starter AV fit
I should be able to take top tier tankers down solo with 3 shots.
Also the forge gun should have homing capability.
You should be able to take top tanks in 3 shots. If tanks is in the open that long and if there is no support infantry to cause the AV guy to move out of the aiming position with suppressive fire in 15 sec that it takes to get all 3 volleys in. The whole 'tanks are expensive and it gotta be my win button' logic is a strong move in the 'I pay to win' direction even if we are talking about isk. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
64
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Posted - 2013.04.20 21:37:00 -
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No one in this tread knows what they are talking about, a tank is not underpowered. and they can be piloted by one person
I should know being that I both determine where the tank goes, and shoot the main gun, and activating defense mods sometimes all or two at the same time.
Raise your hand if you regularly blow them up or pilot them. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.20 23:30:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Lol going to try to find OP in tank and blow it up with advanced swarms and packed AV grenades.
I see nice salty tears in the future.
I usually would tell someone to calm their jets, but.... this time, and seeing that half his post are AV is OP, I'll help. I might even drop a tank just to do a "friendly" search and destroy |
CYRAX SERVIUS
The Generals
EoN.
59
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Posted - 2013.04.20 23:53:00 -
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Aythadis Smith wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Lol going to try to find OP in tank and blow it up with advanced swarms and packed AV grenades.
I see nice salty tears in the future. I usually would tell someone to calm their jets, but.... this time, and seeing that half his post are AV is OP, I'll help. I might even drop a tank just to do a "friendly" search and destroy
This |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.21 01:07:00 -
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-The problem with the Good Tank "teams" is that they have a squad of good "team" players on the ground in infantry wiping out blueberries so fast, that there aren't any left. Let alone any with AV get to a tank and live 3 seconds to lock on and fire 1 shot.
Its also most of the time 2 or 3 dedicated squads at the same time on the same side, once they have momentum it's really hard to stop them rolling you when all you see after you spawn is red zerging your position at best, at worst they kill you at spawning in.
Unless they make the maps bigger and spawns more diverse, it is gonna stay a problem of whack a mole, going from spawn location to location.
Then to add onto the above, they will have 2 tanks then coming from opposite locations in a pincher attack formation its pretty much game over no matter how good you are or what stuff you got on then.
Throw in a random Orbital once all the reds are clustered together due to the spawn mechanic and well, next game.
-Bad tank people just vroem vroem around the track oblivious of whats going on and pretend they are Infantry with their tank, then stand still behind a big rock i can hide behind, drop a gauged pack, and pretend i am a Grenade Turret.
OP sounds like the second stuff i wrote...
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Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
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Posted - 2013.04.21 01:12:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:Tanks are so OP, It's so hard to kill them with my free starter AV fit
I should be able to take top tier tankers down solo with 3 shots.
Also the forge gun should have homing capability. Oh shut up. You don't know what it's like to be on team running full AV and then be continually spawn killed by a tank that can shoot across the map.
How rude of you. Get some preparation H for that sore butt of yours |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
93
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Posted - 2013.04.21 01:31:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:people keep asking for buffs on AV so they can solo tanks, (which many people can), Then they keep asking to nerf tanks so their ability to solo 750k or higher piece of artillery is very high. Sicas and Somas are not in this b/c their cheep. As of now, AV is at its strongest point a 2.5 mil isk sagaris has to run from 2 guys with 3k isk worth of militia forge guns. I drive Sagaris, when i loose it i have to spend a week trying to get it back and then when i take it out... what do you know it lasts 2 matches if i dont ***** and hide in the red zone. im at about a 2mil loss every time i loose it cuz it only lasts about 2 matches and then you fkers say that tanks are op, no-no your cheep ass forge gun is op...
So you want to be able to take anything and everything and get your KD/R up on the 'noobs' as they run without any sort of method of stopping you.
And you call this balance? I'll I'm seeing here is 'someone used an AV weapon to destroy my tank, tanks suck!'
Swarm launchers and forge guns are your bane for a reason. Adapt or die. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.21 01:37:00 -
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It isn't always the tank you have to worry about. The guy who is spotter for the tank might just be your greatest foe. |
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