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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3572	Posted - 2013.04.20 12:59:00 - [1] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Who did you want them to pick, Venom? Pidgey? One of our many Youtube "reviewers"? Maybe they should just go look for random ranters in GD? Edit: If someone like Beers was interested in a spot then he'd have my support, but to my knowledge he doesn't. Maybe Noc and Slap too, but not just because they use vehicles, how dafuq is that reason to put them on CMP? Sure, lets just get a Logi, Scout, Heavy, and Assault player in there while we're at it The people on CMP were chosen because of their interactions with the community, not their play styles. I vetted for beers and he declined. He basically said it would have been far more effective if ccp where to have picked me instead and he then he could complain to me. It is true that most CSM members are good at something usually but they really have to rely on the community to get the whole picture. There are over 600 player flyable ships in eve right now, 10,000 modules, thousands of different activities. And out of all that you want a guy that is an alpha at one of those? Any guy that tries to run as an 'heavy' class, or a tank pilot CPM is going to lose I guarantee it. The guy who run for the CPM as a director who manages the entire corp's CP fighting. The guy who arranges for all gear acquisition, the entire team's outfits and role needs for that fight would be far more successful candidate, because he has to consider what game pieces he has and how they fit in the game and how many of those pieces he needs in order for the fight to be successful. As this guy is most likely to know which roles are bench warmers, not worth their biomass no matter how good they are on the field because that role doesn't help win at all. You ask an alpha and all he is going to see is just targets. The director is going to start seeing a broken game.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3572	Posted - 2013.04.20 13:16:00 - [2] - Quote A quick jib about myself. I was THE Dropship Pilot back in closed beta. and I am not primarily an assault player, I am an Omni-soldier. I fit to whatever roles are needed on the field. This typically means anti-vehicle these days because most of the blue berries suck at killing tanks and lavs.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3577	Posted - 2013.04.20 14:23:00 - [3] - Quote Orin the Freak wrote: Honestly, I know a guy who is highly intellectual, has many ideas about bettering DUST, and would be PERFECT for the job, but since he doesn't post here on the forums a lot, and doesn't sit in the IRC, he'd NEVER get the job (even if he wanted it). I don't think we should get to vote on the CPM, but CCP definitely needs to dig a bit deeper than "oh, I talked to him, he seems cool". lol. I mean, I get it, Kain, because he did CCP's job when they couldn't (by hosting a tourney and helping to keep peoples interest in the game alive while CCP played secret squirrel for 5 months) But Caeli has a very strong point. Where is the hardcore FPS guy? wheres the vehicle guy? He can go run on CPM 1 then. Right now the CPM 0 will be pulling double duty mostly Primary goals are to establish on how our replacements are going to work, terms, number of seats, how you guys are going to vote, conditions for firing a CPM who thought it was going to be all fun and games, answering the odd questions such as the need for ambassadors between the two councils. The list goes on and on and the duty of 'drafting' the constitution is going to be a busy one ontop already existing CPM expected functions. Also why focus on low level features? the entire world is getting shaken up in Uprising, things are massively changing. Balances also changes just about every major patch everyits nearly wasted effort at times other than pointing out something wrong with an entire platform to the point it questions its own existence. You talk about tanks and the sorts, what about the drop-ship? how many of those you see flying these days vs the days of closed beta? Who are your top ace pilots? When was the last time you where absolutely afraid of that drop-ship? Back in closed beta, Murader Tanks ran away from my drop ship, that doesn't really happen anymore.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3587	Posted - 2013.04.20 17:17:00 - [4] - Quote JonnyAugust wrote: CCP has had a bias toward the IRC crowd from day 1. So many opinions have been overlooked or squashed while the agenda of the no-lifers that can hold up in a chat channel all day. In fact, voicing that opinion in this forum was a deletable offense last Fall. The one victory out of all of this is that Grideris (aka Gridboss) didn't get appointed to anything. Console FPS games deserve Console FPS representation. We need representation of here and now, not Soon(tm). People won't be sticking around for a "Warbarge Cantina" if their guns suck at being guns or the simple task of jumping over a 1 foot obstacle is a burden and frustration. Personally, being represented by people with poor stats in an FPS suggests to me that they don't know what makes a game competitive or engaging for those of us that take Core FPS Mechanics VERY seriously. When a council member is a fan of the worst weapon in the game, the Nova Knife, what type of opinion do you think he has on any other weapon mechanic? On a positive note, Kane and IWS have my respect. The others have yet to earn it. There is that special adernaline rush you get with the knife. then the withdrawl when you get annoying killed by the game mostly.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3588	Posted - 2013.04.20 17:44:00 - [5] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Caeli SineDeo wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Who did you want them to pick, Venom? Pidgey? One of our many Youtube "reviewers"? Maybe they should just go look for random ranters in GD? Edit: If someone like Beers was interested in a spot then he'd have my support, but to my knowledge he doesn't. Maybe Noc and Slap too, but not just because they use vehicles, how dafuq is that reason to put them on CMP? Sure, lets just get a Logi, Scout, Heavy, and Assault player in there while we're at it The people on CMP were chosen because of their interactions with the community, not their play styles. I vetted for beers and he declined. He basically said it would have been far more effective if ccp where to have picked me instead and he then he could complain to me. It is true that most CSM members are good at something usually but they really have to rely on the community to get the whole picture. There are over 600 player flyable ships in eve right now, 10,000 modules, thousands of different activities. And out of all that you want a guy that is an alpha at one of those? Any guy that tries to run as an 'heavy' class, or a tank pilot CPM is going to lose I guarantee it. The guy who run for the CPM as a director who manages the entire corp's CP fighting. The guy who arranges for all gear acquisition, the entire team's outfits and role needs for that fight would be far more successful candidate, because he has to consider what game pieces he has and how they fit in the game and how many of those pieces he needs in order for the fight to be successful. As this guy is most likely to know which roles are bench warmers, not worth their biomass no matter how good they are on the field because that role doesn't help win at all. You ask an alpha and all he is going to see is just targets. The director is going to start seeing a broken game. Did I say heavy classs or tank pilot???? Na I said this lacks representation from vehicular game play in a whole. It lacks representation from the aggressive style players that come from hardcore FPS background. These are both big areas in this game. Personally I think if they are going to do a CPM they need to do it correct from the get go be willing to take a few risk. You can always drop members off CPM if they make mistakes or are unable to put the time in. Yes CPM 0 is about getting the ground work set. But you also have to think Dust is still at is most able point mold-able point right now. This means no matter what. CPM 0 is going to be effecting the over all gameplay of dust probably more then any other CPM. So yes I think they need to think outside of the box of the IRC buddies and the passsive few and get some people that might think differently then they do. You're thinking too small. We don't need a vehicle guy, we need a guy who will take our feedback and do his/her best to get CCP to listen to it. They're jobs extend past whatever their play style is. I agree that they could have picked different people, but not just because they use vehicles or have the best gun game. Lots of experience with FPS games? That is good reason. I am old enough to have seen the invention of first person shooters. I remember when they added actual aiming up and down!
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3590	Posted - 2013.04.20 18:13:00 - [6] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: @Iron Wolf Saber Doom? XD Doom has fake up and down, all you have to do is point and make sure they're up or down of where you aim in the center. Rise of the triad required you to be somewhat on the same height as the target. It also had destroyable vases! However didn't enjoy ROT as much as I did Descent!
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3590	Posted - 2013.04.20 18:18:00 - [7] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: @Iron Wolf Saber Doom? XD It also had destroyable vases! OMG That is so revolutionary. Broken vases? Who da thunk it? It was! no other shooter heavily advertised had breakable things before ROT did I think.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3590	Posted - 2013.04.20 20:01:00 - [8] - Quote Yay Adski wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'll have to agree with you While Kain and Iron were good picks, I haven't seen anything from Nova Knife in months, Jenza was another one that we barely hear from, and I have no idea who the hell hans is. Basically IRC guys. Jenza is not that vocal on IRC, you're more likely to catch her on dust 514.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3590	Posted - 2013.04.20 22:14:00 - [9] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: "As mentioned, they mostly play "support" roles rather than being the "frontline" or "alpha" FPS players" oh so the camp snipers got picked? explains a lot Peace B No I'm the guy stabbing them with nova knives! :D

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