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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.04.19 06:05:00 -
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What bothers me is that EVERYONE is saying that the old skirmish was fun...and EVERYONE has been saying this for a while. But CCP has not brought it back and I'm just curious why? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.19 06:17:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:What bothers me is that EVERYONE is saying that the old skirmish was fun...and EVERYONE has been saying this for a while. But CCP has not brought it back and I'm just curious why?
wasnt balanced apparently
DUST doesnt need skirmish 1.0 imo instead skirmish 2.0 needs to stop being a half assed BF2142 game mode and just copy and paste the damn titan mode from 2142
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=50015&find=unread please read bump and support the **** outta this |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.04.19 06:18:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:What bothers me is that EVERYONE is saying that the old skirmish was fun...and EVERYONE has been saying this for a while. But CCP has not brought it back and I'm just curious why?
CCP said they yanked it due to memory leaks. But hey!! a YEAR to fix a memory leak? Sounds fishy.
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Doublewarned
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.19 07:35:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:What bothers me is that EVERYONE is saying that the old skirmish was fun...and EVERYONE has been saying this for a while. But CCP has not brought it back and I'm just curious why? CCP said they yanked it due to memory leaks. But hey!! a YEAR to fix a memory leak? Sounds fishy.
They deleted it, just like they deleted all the work from the 2009 build.
For the record, skirmish 1.0 was the best mode because there was a sense of progression and ownership. As protoman would describe it, the game had clear direction. Now that we are fighting over bowls, the question in back of everyone's mind is why does my character care? The immersion is broken on top of the lameness that is territories. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2013.04.19 08:40:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Yes I am sure to tell my friends to go get a game now that has the potential to be decent in a few years.
HOW BLIND CAN YOU BE That's the same thing new players in EVE tell me all the time being stupid for playing the game before it got fixed, but when I tell them I'm worth 300 billion or so they shut up. |
Doublewarned
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.19 08:51:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Yes I am sure to tell my friends to go get a game now that has the potential to be decent in a few years.
HOW BLIND CAN YOU BE That's the same thing new players in EVE tell me all the time being stupid for playing the game before it got fixed, but when I tell them I'm worth 300 billion or so they shut up.
Shaking in my internet boots. (BTW that's not exceptionally rich for EVE terms). |
CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.04.19 11:38:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG wrote:MAG. Take front line and secure burn off towers, destroy bunker lines. Second, move to secure cooling towers, main base then opened. Attack main control rooms, A B C D E F and G. All the while be aware enemy can rebuild front line defence and push you back to original attack start. Now add to this 256 people in said game all using vehicles, air strikes and a proper command and comms struture. MAG ..... EPIC..... Still failed sadly. DUST 514. 16 versus 16, lets run around like headless chickens in a glorified free for all. DUST 514...... TRASH...... Fail date TBA. Edit
MAG just needs a sequel. ZIpper only ever made TPS games and I think a FPS tank game on the PC years ago.
Such large scale combat hadn't been achieved before, for a first try, it was VERY successful. You can argue that it failed on the whole and I would partially agree with you but 3 years on people still play, I do occassionally so it realy does need a sequel although if that does happen, DUST will be... left in the DUST And the same goes for if PS2 comes out on the PS4.
tbh, PS4 could kill DUST.
Your thoughts aren't very elaborate though, DUST has a lot to offer in terms of metagame but yeh sadly, I have to echo what everyone else is saying.. We need some new game modes. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.19 11:45:00 -
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I will take 1 new mode over nothing
Deal with it |
Azraya Veldman
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.19 11:48:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Cool I will now go tell all my friends that. Great marketing You guys can read and see the "This is BETA, work in progress" message before you log in to the game right ... ? We in fact are here to test things out.
If you would go and look up what's on the horizon you would know that CCP has already prepared a LOT of new features and modes. But in the testing phase it's important to get all base things working, like shooting stuff and other thing that are key aspects of the game. Not constatly rolling out new features. There will be time for it after beta.
About the "why they get us pay for it" I didn't see any place where CCP stated you have to pay for dust. If you want to spend your money in beta it's your choice. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.19 12:19:00 -
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Azraya Veldman wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Cool I will now go tell all my friends that. Great marketing You guys can read and see the "This is BETA, work in progress" message before you log in to the game right ... ? We in fact are here to test things out. If you would go and look up what's on the horizon you would know that CCP has already prepared a LOT of new features and modes. But in the testing phase it's important to get all base things working, like shooting stuff and other thing that are key aspects of the game. Not constatly rolling out new features. There will be time for it after beta. About the "why they get us pay for it" I didn't see any place where CCP stated you have to pay for dust. If you want to spend your money in beta it's your choice. -- EDIT btw. A company having a 10 year development plan for a free to play game is in fact great marketing. That means you will get regular updates with new features during all that time! Tell me what other company offers anything like that Yes. I've seen that message. I've been here since March of last year. And from what I can tell, I've been testing a product that is deteriorating in quality at every build in terms of game play. There has been no new build for the past 2 years. I have been looking up at the horizon, and , unless they magically pull out 5-6 new modes out of nowhere, I'm not convinced.
I don't think you understand that after 2 years, the only new modes have been variations of such bad static modes. After beta is in about 2 months. And that's being generous. Beta was supposed to end 4 months ago. In about 6 months, the PS4 will likely be released, and guess what? There will be 0 f****s given about the game as a whole bunch of other releases come out.
You can wear those glasses over your eyes, but realize that there is a problem with the development right now. |
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ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.04.19 12:26:00 -
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Azraya Veldman wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Cool I will now go tell all my friends that. Great marketing You guys can read and see the "This is BETA, work in progress" message before you log in to the game right ... ? We in fact are here to test things out. If you would go and look up what's on the horizon you would know that CCP has already prepared a LOT of new features and modes. But in the testing phase it's important to get all base things working, like shooting stuff and other thing that are key aspects of the game. Not constatly rolling out new features. There will be time for it after beta. About the "why they get us pay for it" I didn't see any place where CCP stated you have to pay for dust. If you want to spend your money in beta it's your choice. -- EDIT btw. A company having a 10 year development plan for a free to play game is in fact great marketing. That means you will get regular updates with new features during all that time! Tell me what other company offers anything like that
^Typical Fanboi: Ignorant till the end and a Non-factor in game.
In the span of 6 months we are getting three new guns, two new maps, and one crappy game mode. I am so impressed. Furthermore, the core mechanics of this game are bad. Controls are sluggish, Hit detection still sucks, and the flow game is stale and slow. I am so impressed.
I have always assumed that during a Beta, Devs would want to release as much content as possible. You know to test it?
The whole idea of F2P is to allow new players a rich and exciting experience. I don't consider new players getting pubstomped every other game a rewarding experience.
Here just a small list of Devs who have 10 year road map
DCUO PS2 WoW ^ Honestly, who am I to judge CCP. I have only been here sense day one. CCP just release the daily player count and let the numbers talk for you.
Fanboi officially Slain
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.04.19 12:58:00 -
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Thats it..."controls are sluggish, hit detection sucks, and the flow game is stale and slow".
That's it....that describes why the gameplay isn't up to par in a nutshell. Totally fix these and dust may yet make it |
Azraya Veldman
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.19 13:13:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: ^Typical Fanboi: Ignorant till the end and a Non-factor in game. .... ( some good and bad arguments ) .... Fanboi officially Slain
Yup, I am a fan of the whole project and I'm also here since closed beta. As I see it, a lot of things work a lot better over this time period. You are right that it goes slow, but as a developer I am aware that this is a very big project in which a lot of things can go wrong. I rather have the beta stage last longer than receive an unfinished product like the ones EA ships.
Quality > Speed It's not ignorance, it's experience in realization of big IT projects. |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2013.04.19 16:33:00 -
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Azraya Veldman wrote:I'm trying to point out that this is not a pure shooter and most of the functionality that CCP would deliver requires integration with another game, which is a whole different can of worms delopment side. That's really nice from a geek point of view, but it isn't going to carry Dust into the future. If Dust doesn't become a very solid shooter it's not going to be successful, regardless of what other unique selling points you stack on top of it.
I personally don't need a lot of new content to be happy, but I need solid gameplay to be happy. I remember tons of games that have had a lot of success for years after release based on the merits of their basic gameplay. I remember very few games that have become successful based on the merits of their content, the Elder Scrolls Series being a notable part of the latter.
Skirmish 1.0 significantly improved gameplay due to the way it gave players a (spacial) direction. This is severely lacking in Skirmish 2.0. Both game modes suffered from very bad map design, but the old one managed to make up for it better. |
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