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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.04.17 13:58:00 -
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I tasted the rainbow and threw up a little...
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8543/8651621894_cae706b8b6_c.jpg
Since this leaked due to someone pressing a button early I think we get to comment on it anyway. I have two serious issues with this picture:
1. This is New Eden where the overriding theme is "cold, dark, and harsh."
2. I can find more camouflage on EVE starships than I can on these vehicles.
What soldier is his right mind would drive around in brightly painted vehicles? The idea is to blend in to the landscape. This picture shows two HAVs with camo, which is great. How about we try applying that stuff to the rest of them and dropsuits too?
The Quafe pink suits were a publicity stunt by a soft drink company. I can deal with that. The rest of these colors need to GB2WoW where they belong. Get your Icelandic art team involved and let them stomp out this plague of color before it goes any farther.
~~ Reav
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3487
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:02:00 -
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/me hides the paint bucket store...
No nothing to see here. I am not messing around with a repainting gear or vehicles with aur paint buckets. |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
419
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:03:00 -
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I am an immortal... no matternhow many timesni die I get up once more...
Worrying about camo and all that is for the oncers and their silly fear of death...
Your gorram right I want a bright neon kitten green lav...
Its the lav for when you absolutely want to say kitten you and your realistic gameplay. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2185
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:03:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:
What soldier is his right mind would drive around in brightly painted vehicles? The idea is to blend in to the landscape. This picture shows two HAVs with camo, which is great. How about we try applying that stuff to the rest of them and dropsuits too?
Bro, we go into battle in convertibles. Clearly we are not in our right mind as it is. Besides colored camouflage by color doesn't mean much when we have a little red blip over our heads. |
dust badger
BetaMax. CRONOS.
296
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:06:00 -
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I think this is a brilliant idea, its a thing people will pay for and CCP wont need to resort to P2W guns to make RL Iskies |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
491
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:09:00 -
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Just because you show up on tacnet when in range of the enemy doesn't mean this should turn into My Little Pony. I can see using a more aggressive color palette but bright, happy sunshine colors is lame. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
247
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:11:00 -
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If i want to drive around in a pink surya i will do so
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2186
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:12:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Just because you show up on tacnet when in range of the enemy doesn't mean this should turn into My Little Pony. I can see using a more aggressive color palette but bright, happy sunshine colors is lame. I agree with you on their particular color choice that they decided to show (specifically the LAVs).
But that's why we need to be able customize the colors of dropsuits and vehicles. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
500
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:16:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Just because you show up on tacnet when in range of the enemy doesn't mean this should turn into My Little Pony. I can see using a more aggressive color palette but bright, happy sunshine colors is lame.
Just picture 7 LAVs rolling down a hill, rainbow coloured, with mercs in reverse rainbow coloured dropsuits manning the turrets, towards you. If that doesn't make you kitten your pants, I don't know what will. |
LXicon
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
78
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:17:00 -
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your team does not have to USE ALL THE COLOURS! the devs just gave us options:
i could imagine a fleet of alternating yellow LAV, black LAV of goon swarm (or any other bee themed group)
or
i could see a whole corp decide that neon "green death" was their thing and only fit vehicles of that colour.
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Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
247
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:19:00 -
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Camo is so 2000 and late, don't be a fop |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
491
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:22:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Just because you show up on tacnet when in range of the enemy doesn't mean this should turn into My Little Pony. I can see using a more aggressive color palette but bright, happy sunshine colors is lame. Just picture 7 LAVs rolling down a hill, rainbow coloured, with mercs in reverse rainbow coloured dropsuits manning the turrets, towards you. If that doesn't make you kitten your pants, I don't know what will.
I won't be kittening my pants. I'll be turning off the game.
LXicon wrote:your team does not have to USE ALL THE COLOURS! the devs just gave us options:
i could imagine a fleet of alternating yellow LAV, black LAV of goon swarm (or any other bee themed group)
or
i could see a whole corp decide that neon "green death" was their thing and only fit vehicles of that colour.
If the Goons/Immobile Infantry want to roll out in all black with yellow trim that's cool. If the battlefield turns into a mass of neon colors the stylistic theme of New Eden just took a big dump. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
247
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:27:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote: If the Goons/Immobile Infantry want to roll out in all black with yellow trim that's cool. If the battlefield turns into a mass of neon colors the stylistic theme of New Eden just took a big dump.
You are assuming that actual camouflage would do anything in this day and age, and you would most likely be horribly wrong. Even though the game doesn't show it, New Eden would be ridiculously advanced to the point where actually using your eyes would be like using a rotary telephone in this day and age. Advanced thermal optics and scanner systems would only be countered with other highly advanced technological solutions.
The only point to actual coloration of your armor would be about whatever increased your morale, as increased morale would also increase proficiency.
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2188
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:32:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote: If the Goons/Immobile Infantry want to roll out in all black with yellow trim that's cool. If the battlefield turns into a mass of neon colors the stylistic theme of New Eden just took a big dump.
Wait so your against players choosing to be a mobile neon light show all together just because New Eden is a "dark" place?
lol wow your opinion in this matter is void |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2549
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:32:00 -
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First line on the left (Caldari HAVs)
1. Dark grey colour. Nice and flat and easily lost in the background of an industrial facility. Particularly when using Caldari colours on the facility. 2. Desert camo. If you can't figure out where this one hides, this isn't my fault. ...rest are lost in the background.
Middle line (Gallente HAVs)
1. Forest green. This is obviously well-suited to concealment in or neat plantlife, or on almost any standard Gallente Green background. 2. Green and white. This is pretty clearly designed for - once again - the ability to blend in against a common Gallente colour scheme. It would also be relatively inconspicuous for a polar region with a lot of rocks, or any other snowy region. 3. Blue and dark grey. This is much like the Caldari HAV's #1 option - good for industrial facilities, and particularly for Caldari facilities which more commonly use such a colour scheme. 4. Desert camo. As with Caldari #2.
Far-right line (1 - 4 Caldari LAVs, 5 - 8 Gallente LAVs)
1. Standard Caldari colours, as covered in previous dark grey descriptions. 2. Dessert camo. Not "desert" camo. This paint scheme is particularly suited to hiding in banana splits. 3. Lighter blue. This is good for disguising your LAV against the sky when landing it on someone after getting a good jump. 4. Red paint job. This, logically, should act as a built-in afterburner module. Who needs camo when you're FAST? 5. Gallente green paintjob. This appears to be a Gallente LAV, but I'm not sure. 6. Dessert camo again. 7. This looks like - once again - the Gallente equivalent of the Caldari/industrial colour scheme. Not sure though, it's far in the back and dull enough to blend into the others a little. 8. Light green. This is suited to camolage in lighter coloured plant-life, or an alternative dessert camo, this time for hiding in lime-flavoured jelly.
I can see valid camouflage uses for most options. And not-so-valid uses for the rest. |
dust badger
BetaMax. CRONOS.
296
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:33:00 -
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New Eden Camo = Cloak and sig damping |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
491
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:33:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Reav Hannari wrote: If the Goons/Immobile Infantry want to roll out in all black with yellow trim that's cool. If the battlefield turns into a mass of neon colors the stylistic theme of New Eden just took a big dump. You are assuming that actual camouflage would do anything in this day and age, and you would most likely be horribly wrong. Even though the game doesn't show it, New Eden would be ridiculously advanced to the point where actually using your eyes would be like using a rotary telephone in this day and age. Advanced thermal optics and scanner systems would only be countered with other highly advanced technological solutions. The only point to actual coloration of your armor would be about whatever increased your morale, as increased morale would also increase proficiency.
We have the technology present in the game and is represented by Tacnet. Wolfman has indicated that scanning has been reworked and improved including the ability to reduce your profile. Visual scanning is already important with targets only appearing if they are very close or you are looking right at them. As terrain becomes more detailed and cluttered the color of your gear will influence how likely you are to be noticed by the enemy. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
249
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:42:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote: We have the technology present in the game and is represented by Tacnet. Wolfman has indicated that scanning has been reworked and improved including the ability to reduce your profile. Visual scanning is already important with targets only appearing if they are very close or you are looking right at them. As terrain becomes more detailed and cluttered the color of your gear will influence how likely you are to be noticed by the enemy.
Well except for the fact that all gear in this age would probably be equipped with the same cloaking technology as from the commercial of Future Soldier. They just can't incorporate that because of balance issues. So again, color would go out the window again as color wouldn't be projected. And what fool wouldn't run a cloaked suit.. Aha but you might say, "It will increase your sensor visibility?!?!" To that I would say, there are many sensors that also use location appropriate technology and cloaking would defeat those as well. There are also multiple forms of cloaking,
This is all just the lore perspective mind you. I know colors in the battles will make a difference. |
Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:53:00 -
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Honestly they aren't that bad, the lime-green is the only one that is too out of place here. |
Comissar Skelus
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:58:00 -
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Sexy Gallente HAVs
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
491
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Posted - 2013.04.17 15:09:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Honestly they aren't that bad, the lime-green is the only one that is too out of place here.
This is a good point but when you line them all up it looks more like NASCAR than military. That yellow is pretty bright though. The color schemes on the HAVs are so much better.
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Lasarte Ioni
Noob Gaming
86
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Posted - 2013.04.17 15:25:00 -
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you've got no idea, the HAVs are already showing camouflages in that picture (urban, desert, night, and a "clean lab style" and the LAVS are obviously hinting at a LAV-RACE MODE see all those colors for the different teams!
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Hana-Maru
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
30
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:06:00 -
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all of my LAVs will be Go Fasta' Red! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2609
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:11:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:more like NASCAR than military.
Thankfully we're mercenaries, not military
Haven't EVE players wanted this option...for forever? Lol |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
907
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:28:00 -
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Perhaps Camouflage isn't everything Rees?
Why not corporate terror? Because Terror is a weapon.
It would make Mercs weak in the knees to come across the Infamous Pink HAVs of PFBHz. Many would run in terror at the sight of a Neon Orange and Black LAV on the grill it says 'Bojo' |
Spacetits CDXX
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
167
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:28:00 -
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Man, I'm excited to drive around in a lime-green jeep! You should be too. Rediscover your inner sense of wonder. |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
2014
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:30:00 -
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I don't know what the fuss is about. I like the colors. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
491
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:49:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Perhaps Camouflage isn't everything Rees?
Why not corporate terror? Because Terror is a weapon.
It would make Mercs weak in the knees to come across the Infamous Pink HAVs of PFBHz. Many would run in terror at the sight of a Neon Orange and Black LAV on the grill it says 'Bojo'
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2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
489
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:53:00 -
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Does the world need another AAA ultra grey FPS? Dust is grey and artistically uninteresting enough. Give it some Splash! Let the artists use some dam colors. |
General Sideboob
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:56:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Camo is so 2000 and late, don't be a fop
I'm a Dapper Dan man. |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
491
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:59:00 -
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It has become very clear that I'm the only one that likes the drabness of New Eden or the color palette normally associated with the military. Maybe it was the 20 years in uniform that warped my design sense. Carry on with your happy colors. I'll just leave y'all be and go back to my dark and depressed place.
/me hangs up dropsuit and wanders off... |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
138
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Posted - 2013.04.17 17:30:00 -
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I played airsoft once with some dudes form work, and one guy shows up in a full yellow jogging suit. He is like 6'2 as well. He was like a giant banana.
But- he and I, with our rental guns (aka militia ARs), knocked out 20 enemy players and were hanging out in their base taking them out as they came back.
Then we got TK'd
I should try that again someday. |
Prince Aryan
Kilrathi Knights
0
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Posted - 2013.04.17 18:36:00 -
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mollerz wrote:I played airsoft once with some dudes form work, and one guy shows up in a full yellow jogging suit. He is like 6'2 as well. He was like a giant banana. But- he and I, with our rental guns (aka militia ARs), knocked out 20 enemy players and were hanging out in their base taking them out as they came back. Then we got TK'd I should try that again someday.
Well it's not like many people going to consider a giant enemy banana as a potential threat. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
139
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:16:00 -
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Prince Aryan wrote:mollerz wrote:I played airsoft once with some dudes form work, and one guy shows up in a full yellow jogging suit. He is like 6'2 as well. He was like a giant banana. But- he and I, with our rental guns (aka militia ARs), knocked out 20 enemy players and were hanging out in their base taking them out as they came back. Then we got TK'd I should try that again someday. Well it's not like many people going to consider a giant enemy banana as a potential threat.
until it runs your over. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1295
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:18:00 -
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Give me Hello Kitty Scorpions or give me death! |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
338
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:48:00 -
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This wasn't leak Kitten. It was announced the day before you found it on Playstation Blog from the Devs.
Saw it, read it, wasn't upset and recalled we will get to paint the equipment any color we want at some point in the future. If that is just Drop Suits, fine otherwise many teams will have some hilarious schemes for others to consider or abhor. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
1230
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Posted - 2013.04.18 01:53:00 -
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I'm not a Halo fan, but what was it that commercial kept saying about Halo 3? Stand out by blending in? It was making fun of all the tryhards that color themselves in bright neon, and get ambushed by the guy in camouflage they didn't see.
I'm going to be that guy in camo, going logi rambo on your skittle asses. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
694
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:11:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If i want to drive around in a pink surya i will do so
I seem to recall the devs lusting after a bright pink Megathron battleship in a recent videocast... |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
694
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:13:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:It has become very clear that I'm the only one that likes the drabness of New Eden or the color palette normally associated with the military. Maybe it was the 20 years in uniform that warped my design sense. Carry on with your happy colors. I'll just leave y'all be and go back to my dark and depressed place.
/me hangs up dropsuit and wanders off...
If you roll around on the floor of one of those Minmatar merc quarters, I'm pretty sure you'll turn a very depressing shade of rust. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
694
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:14:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Perhaps Camouflage isn't everything Rees?
Why not corporate terror? Because Terror is a weapon.
It would make Mercs weak in the knees to come across the Infamous Pink HAVs of PFBHz. Many would run in terror at the sight of a Neon Orange and Black LAV on the grill it says 'Bojo'
Until they noticed that I was "driving" it... backwards. |
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Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
534
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:36:00 -
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You might have a point if simply scrolling over an enemy didn't paint them bright orange on your entire team's radar. And LAVs are already one of the easiest things to spot in the game. Look for the block with headlights. |
Andius Fidelitas
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
56
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Posted - 2013.04.18 03:59:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Just because you show up on tacnet when in range of the enemy doesn't mean this should turn into My Little Pony. I can see using a more aggressive color palette but bright, happy sunshine colors is lame.
The fact that the one with "lame" colors can effectively murder someone with the so called "tough" colors, is an excellent way of shaming a player.
I say give us total freedom with the colors. If I can spread death and destruction to my enemies with the happiest and brightest colors out there, ooooohhh, it will make their agonizing defeat all the more sweeter! |
bunnywink
Arrogance. EoN.
159
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Posted - 2013.04.18 15:56:00 -
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I demand heart-shaped reticles for my guns. Oh, and pink drop suits.
GPOY. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2560
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Posted - 2013.04.18 16:10:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:You might have a point if simply scrolling over an enemy didn't paint them bright orange on your entire team's radar. And LAVs are already one of the easiest things to spot in the game. Look for the block with headlights. Not true.
You only light enemies up for your SQUAD (or other "no squad players if you're not in a squad), not the whole team. |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
278
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Posted - 2013.04.18 16:25:00 -
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Quafe HAVs and LAVs please |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
370
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:09:00 -
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Since the devs have said about an upcoming arena/sports type modes, the colors make sense and gives people choice. If they want to run around in pink lav, by dam they can. |
Vickers S Grunt
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
71
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:20:00 -
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"Camouflage is the color of fear... I have no need to hide from my foes... I have no fear of death. My colors I wear openly, they proclaim louder than any words, I am proud to live - I am proud to die." |
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