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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3480	Posted - 2013.04.17 02:57:00 - [1] - Quote Considering the latest blog and how they're going to take all your items away and just pay in aurum and isk.
Corn In TheSkidmark Backstabbers N Cheaters Union 98	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:02:00 - [2] - Quote Eh, the items were trash anyway
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 900	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:03:00 - [3] - Quote You seem a bit confused here...
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3481	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:04:00 - [4] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: You seem a bit confused here... PSN Dev Blog wrote: Note that the respec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the respect. Dust 514 EULA wrote: Upon termination of this beta, CCP may, in its sole discretion, delete or destroy all characters, character attributes, skills, and items acquired during the beta. As a participant in the beta, you acknowledge and agree you have no right to retain characters or their attributes, skills, or other acquired items.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 900	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:13:00 - [5] - Quote Except the merc pack debate was never about getting an AUR refund, it was about getting the consumables re-credited, and that dev-blog only mentions items "in your inventory". That means items that have already been used are not included in the upcoming ISK/AUR refund. The merc pack debate continues... even though I wish it would die Edit: And I know what the EULA says, but the merc pack items must still be credited to characters come Commercial Release, unless CCP gives people who bought it something of equal value.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 748	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:13:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: You seem a bit confused here... PSN Dev Blog wrote: Note that the respec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the respect. Dust 514 EULA wrote: Upon termination of this beta, CCP may, in its sole discretion, delete or destroy all characters, character attributes, skills, and items acquired during the beta. As a participant in the beta, you acknowledge and agree you have no right to retain characters or their attributes, skills, or other acquired items. In a nutshell
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3481	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:16:00 - [7] - Quote Just saying your entire inventory is going to get wiped out from the sounds of it, we're not sure on the purchased items or special gifts are going to be returned based on the EULA.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 9	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:18:00 - [8] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: You seem a bit confused here... PSN Dev Blog wrote: Note that the respec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the respect. Dust 514 EULA wrote: Upon termination of this beta, CCP may, in its sole discretion, delete or destroy all characters, character attributes, skills, and items acquired during the beta. As a participant in the beta, you acknowledge and agree you have no right to retain characters or their attributes, skills, or other acquired items. In a nutshell /thread?
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1227	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:18:00 - [9] - Quote So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them?
WE LOVE ReGnUM Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:19:00 - [10] - Quote So I basically bought the PS3 with the Golden LAV for nothing. Im going too sleep on this or might get banned.

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3482	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:20:00 - [11] - Quote And I just got done reading SCEA's terms of service... well lets just say the language isn't in customers favor. The TL;DR basically stating for the greater good and the entire legalese is going to be worded in such a way to avoid lawsuits. As for what to do? I say don't know what they're going to do. I know there is going to be a massive price drop on quite a few aur gear and items post may 6th so I may say hold onto it as part of my advice. You may come out ahead post may 6th launch. Also the horrific issue of those who bought BPOs before the price jacks are going to basically get 'free aurum' because of the change.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 900	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:22:00 - [12] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them? Or you could not use them and just re-buy them with the refunded AUR? Will they cost less, will they cost more? Nobody knows
Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 10	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:23:00 - [13] - Quote Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded? They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used? I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3482	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:25:00 - [14] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them? Or you could not use them and just re-buy them with the refunded AUR? Will they cost less, will they cost more? Nobody knows I been told by a dev who voices on the panel for prices there should be a drop.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 900	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:26:00 - [15] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded? They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used? I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs. How about you spend it just in case?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3482	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:26:00 - [16] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded? They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used? I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs. Those will be kept, if you have 8 million with 2 million unspent skill points on the 5th youll have 8 million skill points unspent on the 6th.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 900	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:27:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them? Or you could not use them and just re-buy them with the refunded AUR? Will they cost less, will they cost more? Nobody knows I been told by a dev who voices on the panel for prices there should be a drop. So will the refund use current market values, or uprising market values?
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort The Lions Guard 11	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:29:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: And I just got done reading SCEA's terms of service... well lets just say the language isn't in customers favor. The TL;DR basically stating for the greater good and the entire legalese is going to be worded in such a way to avoid lawsuits. As for what to do? I say don't know what they're going to do. I know there is going to be a massive price drop on quite a few aur gear and items post may 6th so I may say hold onto it as part of my advice. You may come out ahead post may 6th launch. Also the horrific issue of those who bought BPOs before the price jacks are going to basically get 'free aurum' because of the change. yeah......not exactly happy about that.....
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3483	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:30:00 - [19] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them? Or you could not use them and just re-buy them with the refunded AUR? Will they cost less, will they cost more? Nobody knows I been told by a dev who voices on the panel for prices there should be a drop. So will the refund use current market values, or uprising market values? It says "at the time of the respec", but I'm not sure if that's before or after the downtime. Should be current prices and 'market value'
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3483	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:33:00 - [20] - Quote Updated the OP title since the subject goes BEYOND just the merc pack.

Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 10	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:36:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded? They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used? I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs. Those will be kept, if you have 8 million with 2 million unspent skill points on the 5th youll have 8 million skill points unspent on the 6th. Good to know. Since they announced respec, I've been toying with new skills anyways.
Corn In TheSkidmark Backstabbers N Cheaters Union 99	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:36:00 - [22] - Quote I just don't see the big deal here. It's not real stuff, let them fix their mistakes and refund accordingly, you will just be able to spend your dough on something else
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 434	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:38:00 - [23] - Quote I suspect they will refund gear for players who want to buy new gear under a new skill respect. If I wanted to go tanker I don't want 30mil tied up in Proto Assault Gear. That said If they take my pile of officer weapons I'll throw a fit
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2606	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:41:00 - [24] - Quote If I get a SP refund AND ISK for all my useless dropships....omfg.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3484	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:41:00 - [25] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: I suspect they will refund gear for players who want to buy new gear under a new skill respect. If I wanted to go tanker I don't want 30mil tied up in Proto Assault Gear. That said If they take my pile of officer weapons I'll throw a fit See that's what I am also afraid of disheartening as well, I mean I have some rust red and steel heavy suits I wear in the barge and they're getting deleted likely.
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort The Lions Guard 12	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:43:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: I suspect they will refund gear for players who want to buy new gear under a new skill respect. If I wanted to go tanker I don't want 30mil tied up in Proto Assault Gear. That said If they take my pile of officer weapons I'll throw a fit See that's what I am also afraid of disheartening as well, I mean I have some rust red and steel heavy suits I wear in the barge and they're getting deleted likely. better not take away officer gear, i've never gotten to use any of it
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 12	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:44:00 - [27] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: If I get a SP refund AND ISK for all my useless dropships....omfg. Just so you know, I'm putting points into scanning just for you
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 434	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:50:00 - [28] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: If I get a SP refund AND ISK for all my useless dropships....omfg. I think all the regular players have 50-60mil tied up in dropships. I doubt they will refund looted items. This whole refund is seeming more and more crazy. I must have 150-200mil in looted gear.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 571	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:51:00 - [29] - Quote So you're saying my officer weapons and beloved Hazard suit will be gone? This is a very sad day for me
Logi Bro Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1224	Posted - 2013.04.17 03:53:00 - [30] - Quote So I am going to make a 1000% AUR return on those militia BPO's? This is a very happy day for me.

slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 547	Posted - 2013.04.17 04:01:00 - [31] - Quote Or how bout they just open up the damn player market and let us sell anything we want....
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 256	Posted - 2013.04.17 04:11:00 - [32] - Quote They're talking about AUR items you bought from MARKET. BPO rewards and all other crap you got from bundles and events and all that stays... How hard is to understand that. If you have AUR tank that you bought from the market you'll get your AUR back if you didn't use the bloody thing until 6th. Because you know - respec.
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1194	Posted - 2013.04.17 04:11:00 - [33] - Quote Come the sixth we will all be unformed piles of SP, ISK, and AUR: clay to be molded into something completely new. It will be known as "The Great Respecing" for all those who live through it.
Covert Clay Red Star. EoN. 6	Posted - 2013.04.17 04:36:00 - [34] - Quote OK can some one please clarify? We WONT get back our AUR used on SP boosters. We WONT get back AUR spent on dropsuits and lost in battle. But we WILL get back our AUR spent on unused SP boosters? Does this mean the smart thing to do would be to load up on AUR gear before the respec so that we actually make AUR off this? Because from the looks of it if we don't spend our AUR on something then we would have the same exact amount of AUR after the respect as we did before even though the prices went up 2x. Or have I misunderstood? ALSO: do you guys think we will get more or less AUR from a merc pack bought after the respect compared to before?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3485	Posted - 2013.04.17 04:39:00 - [35] - Quote Covert Clay wrote: OK can some one please clarify? We WONT get back our AUR used on SP boosters. We WONT get back AUR spent on dropsuits and lost in battle. But we WILL get back our AUR spent on unused SP boosters? Does this mean the smart thing to do would be to load up on AUR gear before the respec so that we actually make AUR off this? Because from the looks of it if we don't spend our AUR on something then we would have the same exact amount of AUR after the respect as we did before even though the prices went up 2x. Or have I misunderstood? ALSO: do you guys think we will get more or less AUR from a merc pack bought after the respect compared to before? I been trying to get this answered mostly about already consumed boosters.
Covert Clay Red Star. EoN. 6	Posted - 2013.04.17 04:41:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Covert Clay wrote: OK can some one please clarify? We WONT get back our AUR used on SP boosters. We WONT get back AUR spent on dropsuits and lost in battle. But we WILL get back our AUR spent on unused SP boosters? Does this mean the smart thing to do would be to load up on AUR gear before the respec so that we actually make AUR off this? Because from the looks of it if we don't spend our AUR on something then we would have the same exact amount of AUR after the respect as we did before even though the prices went up 2x. Or have I misunderstood? ALSO: do you guys think we will get more or less AUR from a merc pack bought after the respect compared to before? I been trying to get this answered mostly about already consumed boosters. If you can get a straight answer from CCP regarding this matter before the 6th...free. Cookies for you!
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 256	Posted - 2013.04.17 04:46:00 - [37] - Quote Covert Clay wrote: OK can some one please clarify? We WONT get back our AUR used on SP boosters. We WONT get back AUR spent on dropsuits and lost in battle. But we WILL get back our AUR spent on unused SP boosters? Does this mean the smart thing to do would be to load up on AUR gear before the respec so that we actually make AUR off this? Because from the looks of it if we don't spend our AUR on something then we would have the same exact amount of AUR after the respect as we did before even though the prices went up 2x. Or have I misunderstood? ALSO: do you guys think we will get more or less AUR from a merc pack bought after the respect compared to before? You will get AUR equivalent of everything you didn't spend yet. That probably does not include special bundle rewards and orders outside of the actual market.
Rubico BetaMax. CRONOS. 7	Posted - 2013.04.17 05:14:00 - [38] - Quote What about all those closed beta vanity dropsuits that were later removed? will we be reimbursed for them?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 906	Posted - 2013.04.17 06:21:00 - [39] - Quote Wait, so whats the point of the human endurance event then?
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 97	Posted - 2013.04.17 06:26:00 - [40] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Wait, so whats the point of the human endurance event then? I was wondering the same thing. I guess you get ISK. I would be interested to hear more from the devs about the fine details of this refund.

Junko Mori OMNI Endeavors O.M.N.I. Initiative 14	Posted - 2013.04.17 08:54:00 - [41] - Quote For all the people QQING about their officer weapons.... they have no MARKET VALUE as you CANT buy them ....thus they CANT be refunded and will STAY with you all those useless tanks lavs dropsuits and weapons from the looks of it will be refunded to allow you to spend isk elsewhere. OR only AURuM items will be refunded will shall wait in see Mean time you guys can continue your forum panic /tinfoilhat

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 1380	Posted - 2013.04.17 09:24:00 - [42] - Quote Hey guys, Just a quick note. We're releasing an updated version of this blog later today. It contains some slightly different information in it. Additionally, we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that. The reference to returning ISK or AUR value for items refers to anything that we determine is going to be drastically changed by our skill change system and might require removal. We do not have public details on that yet, but we will be posting a longer dev blog in the future which more-fully lays out these changes.

Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 59	Posted - 2013.04.17 09:40:00 - [43] - Quote Will you send everybody an email report of what have been deleted & refunded per character? You know, if you run a script on your MS SQL Server DUST_DB you can make it to report it's deeds in human readable form directly into our mailboxes on the go... It could be two emails actually: #1 Initial audit before script (SP, WP, ISK, AUR, assets, skills) #2 Report of script actions and final audit of what remains after script (SP, WP, ISK, AUR, assets, skills) Any chance? Thanx
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 98	Posted - 2013.04.17 09:53:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Hey guys, Just a quick note. We're releasing an updated version of this blog later today. It contains some slightly different information in it. Additionally, we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that. The reference to returning ISK or AUR value for items refers to anything that we determine is going to be drastically changed by our skill change system and might require removal. We do not have public details on that yet, but we will be posting a longer dev blog in the future which more-fully lays out these changes. I suspected this might be the case, thanks for the update.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 1383	Posted - 2013.04.17 10:05:00 - [45] - Quote I'm unsure about the mail about the removal. I'll look into it for the publication of the longer dev blog.

Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 59	Posted - 2013.04.17 10:06:00 - [46] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: I'm unsure about the mail about the removal. I'll look into it for the publication of the longer dev blog. Would be cool, thanx anyway
Zarr Du'Kar Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2013.04.17 10:39:00 - [47] - Quote The question is what happens on the 6th if you haven't assigned the items you got both from events and merc packs? Will they get refunded as well but to which account? Or will it just disappear if CCP decides to take them out entirely
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 257	Posted - 2013.04.17 10:42:00 - [48] - Quote Alright I'll link it... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=697166#post697166
Baal Omniscient Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 466	Posted - 2013.04.17 10:43:00 - [49] - Quote Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: And I just got done reading SCEA's terms of service... well lets just say the language isn't in customers favor. The TL;DR basically stating for the greater good and the entire legalese is going to be worded in such a way to avoid lawsuits. As for what to do? I say don't know what they're going to do. I know there is going to be a massive price drop on quite a few aur gear and items post may 6th so I may say hold onto it as part of my advice. You may come out ahead post may 6th launch. Also the horrific issue of those who bought BPOs before the price jacks are going to basically get 'free aurum' because of the change. yeah......not exactly happy about that..... I am
La Fortune Terranauts 63	Posted - 2013.04.17 10:59:00 - [50] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: And I just got done reading SCEA's terms of service... well lets just say the language isn't in customers favor. The TL;DR basically stating for the greater good and the entire legalese is going to be worded in such a way to avoid lawsuits. As for what to do? I say don't know what they're going to do. I know there is going to be a massive price drop on quite a few aur gear and items post may 6th so I may say hold onto it as part of my advice. You may come out ahead post may 6th launch. Also the horrific issue of those who bought BPOs before the price jacks are going to basically get 'free aurum' because of the change. yeah......not exactly happy about that..... I am Was a better investment than I expected

Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors O.M.N.I. Initiative 367	Posted - 2013.04.17 11:14:00 - [51] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded? They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used? I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs. Those will be kept, if you have 8 million with 2 million unspent skill points on the 5th youll have 8 million skill points unspent on the 6th. Good to know. Since they announced respec, I've been toying with new skills anyways. I don't understand how this isn't understood....you can only refundsomething that you SPEND. How could they give you back SP that you already have...? I swear you guys are all panicking for no good reason.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3487	Posted - 2013.04.17 11:34:00 - [52] - Quote Woot Dev bait worked.
Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 145	Posted - 2013.04.17 12:09:00 - [53] - Quote Iron wolf Saber really likes to discuss things huh?
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 258	Posted - 2013.04.17 12:10:00 - [54] - Quote The dev blog updated now. Check same link again.
dust badger BetaMax. CRONOS. 296	Posted - 2013.04.17 12:16:00 - [55] - Quote no more skittle lavs :(
WE LOVE ReGnUM Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2013.04.17 12:25:00 - [56] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Hey guys, Just a quick note. We're releasing an updated version of this blog later today. It contains some slightly different information in it. Additionally, we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that. The reference to returning ISK or AUR value for items refers to anything that we determine is going to be drastically changed by our skill change system and might require removal. We do not have public details on that yet, but we will be posting a longer dev blog in the future which more-fully lays out these changes. Thank you for clarification.
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 791	Posted - 2013.04.17 12:53:00 - [57] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Hey guys, Just a quick note. We're releasing an updated version of this blog later today. It contains some slightly different information in it. Additionally, we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that. The reference to returning ISK or AUR value for items refers to anything that we determine is going to be drastically changed by our skill change system and might require removal. We do not have public details on that yet, but we will be posting a longer dev blog in the future which more-fully lays out these changes. If for some reason CCP feels the need to wipe our SP to 0, DUST will be gathering DUST if you catch my meaning.
Kitten Commander Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 181	Posted - 2013.04.17 13:22:00 - [58] - Quote Still havent said whether the officer weapons will go or stay. I would like to hear a firm answer on this as some are holding on to them for PC.
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 60	Posted - 2013.04.17 13:26:00 - [59] - Quote Kitten Commander wrote: Still havent said whether the officer weapons will go or stay. I would like to hear a firm answer on this as some are holding on to them for PC. I think he said it pretty clear: CCP Eterne wrote: (...)we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that(...)
Spacetits CDXX Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 164	Posted - 2013.04.17 13:34:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Hey guys, Just a quick note. We're releasing an updated version of this blog later today. It contains some slightly different information in it. Additionally, we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that. The reference to returning ISK or AUR value for items refers to anything that we determine is going to be drastically changed by our skill change system and might require removal. We do not have public details on that yet, but we will be posting a longer dev blog in the future which more-fully lays out these changes. Really hope this means I can still keep my sweet collection of vanity dropsuits which are now unavailable.

semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 409	Posted - 2013.04.17 13:35:00 - [61] - Quote Personally if they game me AUR for the special beta gifts I would enjoy that. Its not like I use Skinweaves anymore anyway.
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 62	Posted - 2013.04.17 13:48:00 - [62] - Quote Spacetits CDXX wrote: (...)Really hope this means I can still keep my sweet collection of vanity dropsuits which are now unavailable. Yeah, those special dropsuits will be for special occasions only. Not for combat. Like evening gowns and suits For dinners with other CEOs
Calgoth Reborn United Front LLC 246	Posted - 2013.04.17 13:53:00 - [63] - Quote Think you guy's are reading more into than there is my take was if they remove an item from the game and hence your assets you will be reimbursed in either isk or aurum depending on what it is not that they are wiping everything from your assets.
Spacetits CDXX Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 164	Posted - 2013.04.17 14:04:00 - [64] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: Spacetits CDXX wrote: (...)Really hope this means I can still keep my sweet collection of vanity dropsuits which are now unavailable. Yeah, those special dropsuits will be for special occasions only. Not for combat. Like evening gowns and suits For dinners with other CEOs I only wear them to flaunt it on the war barge
Kitten Commander Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 181	Posted - 2013.04.17 14:06:00 - [65] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: Kitten Commander wrote: Still havent said whether the officer weapons will go or stay. I would like to hear a firm answer on this as some are holding on to them for PC. I think he said it pretty clear: CCP Eterne wrote: (...)we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that(...) Your definition of 'clear' leaves something to be desired. The only thing that Eterne says with certainty is the special items received from events. The rest is based on your assumption which is anything but 'clear'. Until they specifically state something regarding officer gear, it will remain in doubt.
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 62	Posted - 2013.04.17 17:01:00 - [66] - Quote Kitten Commander wrote: Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: Kitten Commander wrote: Still havent said whether the officer weapons will go or stay. I would like to hear a firm answer on this as some are holding on to them for PC. I think he said it pretty clear: CCP Eterne wrote: (...)we won't be removing any of the special items you got from events or anything like that(...) Your definition of 'clear' leaves something to be desired. The only thing that Eterne says with certainty is the special items received from events. The rest is based on your assumption which is anything but 'clear'. Until they specifically state something regarding officer gear, it will remain in doubt. You forgot about Quote: (...)or anything like that(...) part Doesn't your "officer gear" qualify for "anything like that"? Why are you so doubtfull about CCP good will?
Kitten Commander Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 184	Posted - 2013.04.17 17:10:00 - [67] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: Kitten Commander wrote: Your definition of 'clear' leaves something to be desired. The only thing that Eterne says with certainty is the special items received from events. The rest is based on your assumption which is anything but 'clear'. Until they specifically state something regarding officer gear, it will remain in doubt. You forgot about Quote: (...)or anything like that(...) part Doesn't your "officer gear" qualify for "anything like that"? Why are you so doubtfull about CCP good will? That is purely an assumption because you want it to mean that. I am guessing you are of the younger variety (not trolling). As people get older and deal with anything that has a contractual basis, they learn very quickly how important it is to have something explicitly stated.
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort The Lions Guard 17	Posted - 2013.04.17 17:22:00 - [68] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: I'm unsure about the mail about the removal. I'll look into it for the publication of the longer dev blog. would be awesome to get that.
Garrett Whetshaft Hateful Munitions Totally Consensual 42	Posted - 2013.04.17 18:41:00 - [69] - Quote /me feels silly for buying all those 30 day UVT's.....
Garrett Whetshaft Hateful Munitions Totally Consensual 42	Posted - 2013.04.17 22:00:00 - [70] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded? They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used? I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs. Those will be kept, if you have 8 million with 2 million unspent skill points on the 5th youll have 8 million skill points unspent on the 6th. Good to know. Since they announced respec, I've been toying with new skills anyways. I don't understand how this isn't understood....you can only refundsomething that you SPEND. How could they give you back SP that you already have...? I swear you guys are all panicking for no good reason. This postulation begs another more important question: WHY DO YOU HAVE 2 MILLION SP UNALLOCATED?

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3512	Posted - 2013.04.17 22:38:00 - [71] - Quote Garrett Whetshaft wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded? They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used? I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs. Those will be kept, if you have 8 million with 2 million unspent skill points on the 5th youll have 8 million skill points unspent on the 6th. Good to know. Since they announced respec, I've been toying with new skills anyways. I don't understand how this isn't understood....you can only refundsomething that you SPEND. How could they give you back SP that you already have...? I swear you guys are all panicking for no good reason. This postulation begs another more important question: WHY DO YOU HAVE 2 MILLION SP UNALLOCATED? "I was told by Ironwolf we're getting new covert ops suits and I wanted to save SP so I can go max proto on those suits on day one!"
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort The Lions Guard 19	Posted - 2013.04.17 23:31:00 - [72] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Garrett Whetste=Beren Hurin wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded? They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used? I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs. Those will be kept, if you have 8 million with 2 million unspent skill points on the 5th youll have 8 million skill points unspent on the 6th. Good to know. Since they announced respec, I've been toying with new skills anyways. I don't understand how this isn't understood....you can only refundsomething that you SPEND. How could they give you back SP that you already have...? I swear you guys are all panicking for no good reason. This postulation begs another more important question: WHY DO YOU HAVE 2 MILLION SP UNALLOCATED? "I was told by Ironwolf we're getting new covert ops suits and I wanted to save SP so I can go max proto on those suits on day one!" [/quote] -_- you don't have to save your damn SP


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