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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.04.17 02:57:00 -
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Considering the latest blog and how they're going to take all your items away and just pay in aurum and isk.
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Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:02:00 -
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Eh, the items were trash anyway |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:03:00 -
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You seem a bit confused here... |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:04:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:You seem a bit confused here...
PSN Dev Blog wrote:Note that the respec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the respect.
Dust 514 EULA wrote:Upon termination of this beta, CCP may, in its sole discretion, delete or destroy all characters, character attributes, skills, and items acquired during the beta. As a participant in the beta, you acknowledge and agree you have no right to retain characters or their attributes, skills, or other acquired items. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
900
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:13:00 -
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Except the merc pack debate was never about getting an AUR refund, it was about getting the consumables re-credited, and that dev-blog only mentions items "in your inventory". That means items that have already been used are not included in the upcoming ISK/AUR refund.
The merc pack debate continues... even though I wish it would die 
Edit: And I know what the EULA says, but the merc pack items must still be credited to characters come Commercial Release, unless CCP gives people who bought it something of equal value. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:You seem a bit confused here... PSN Dev Blog wrote:Note that the respec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the respect. Dust 514 EULA wrote:Upon termination of this beta, CCP may, in its sole discretion, delete or destroy all characters, character attributes, skills, and items acquired during the beta. As a participant in the beta, you acknowledge and agree you have no right to retain characters or their attributes, skills, or other acquired items.
In a nutshell |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:16:00 -
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Just saying your entire inventory is going to get wiped out from the sounds of it, we're not sure on the purchased items or special gifts are going to be returned based on the EULA. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:18:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:You seem a bit confused here... PSN Dev Blog wrote:Note that the respec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the respect. Dust 514 EULA wrote:Upon termination of this beta, CCP may, in its sole discretion, delete or destroy all characters, character attributes, skills, and items acquired during the beta. As a participant in the beta, you acknowledge and agree you have no right to retain characters or their attributes, skills, or other acquired items. In a nutshell
/thread? |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:18:00 -
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So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them? |
WE LOVE ReGnUM
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:19:00 -
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So I basically bought the PS3 with the Golden LAV for nothing.
Im going too sleep on this or might get banned. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:20:00 -
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And I just got done reading SCEA's terms of service... well lets just say the language isn't in customers favor. The TL;DR basically stating for the greater good and the entire legalese is going to be worded in such a way to avoid lawsuits.
As for what to do?
I say don't know what they're going to do. I know there is going to be a massive price drop on quite a few aur gear and items post may 6th so I may say hold onto it as part of my advice. You may come out ahead post may 6th launch.
Also the horrific issue of those who bought BPOs before the price jacks are going to basically get 'free aurum' because of the change. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:22:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them?
Or you could not use them and just re-buy them with the refunded AUR? 
Will they cost less, will they cost more? Nobody knows  |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:23:00 -
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Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded?
They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used?
I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:25:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them? Or you could not use them and just re-buy them with the refunded AUR? Will they cost less, will they cost more? Nobody knows
I been told by a dev who voices on the panel for prices there should be a drop. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
900
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:26:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded?
They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used?
I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs.
How about you spend it just in case? |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:26:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded?
They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used?
I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs.
Those will be kept, if you have 8 million with 2 million unspent skill points on the 5th youll have 8 million skill points unspent on the 6th. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
900
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them? Or you could not use them and just re-buy them with the refunded AUR? Will they cost less, will they cost more? Nobody knows I been told by a dev who voices on the panel for prices there should be a drop.
So will the refund use current market values, or uprising market values? |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
11
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And I just got done reading SCEA's terms of service... well lets just say the language isn't in customers favor. The TL;DR basically stating for the greater good and the entire legalese is going to be worded in such a way to avoid lawsuits.
As for what to do?
I say don't know what they're going to do. I know there is going to be a massive price drop on quite a few aur gear and items post may 6th so I may say hold onto it as part of my advice. You may come out ahead post may 6th launch.
Also the horrific issue of those who bought BPOs before the price jacks are going to basically get 'free aurum' because of the change.
yeah......not exactly happy about that..... |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3483
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:30:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:So should I use up all of my extra boosters now so I done lose them? Or you could not use them and just re-buy them with the refunded AUR? Will they cost less, will they cost more? Nobody knows I been told by a dev who voices on the panel for prices there should be a drop. So will the refund use current market values, or uprising market values? It says "at the time of the respec", but I'm not sure if that's before or after the downtime.
Should be current prices and 'market value' |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3483
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:33:00 -
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Updated the OP title since the subject goes BEYOND just the merc pack. |
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Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Anybody else catch the context clue about "SP spent" being refunded?
They won't track Unallocated SP, just total points used?
I don't want to be a stickler, but I'd rather heed the warning signs. Those will be kept, if you have 8 million with 2 million unspent skill points on the 5th youll have 8 million skill points unspent on the 6th.
Good to know. Since they announced respec, I've been toying with new skills anyways.
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Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
99
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:36:00 -
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I just don't see the big deal here. It's not real stuff, let them fix their mistakes and refund accordingly, you will just be able to spend your dough on something else |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
EoN.
434
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:38:00 -
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I suspect they will refund gear for players who want to buy new gear under a new skill respect. If I wanted to go tanker I don't want 30mil tied up in Proto Assault Gear.
That said If they take my pile of officer weapons I'll throw a fit  |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2606
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:41:00 -
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If I get a SP refund AND ISK for all my useless dropships....omfg. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3484
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:41:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I suspect they will refund gear for players who want to buy new gear under a new skill respect. If I wanted to go tanker I don't want 30mil tied up in Proto Assault Gear. That said If they take my pile of officer weapons I'll throw a fit
See that's what I am also afraid of disheartening as well, I mean I have some rust red and steel heavy suits I wear in the barge and they're getting deleted likely. |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
12
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:43:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I suspect they will refund gear for players who want to buy new gear under a new skill respect. If I wanted to go tanker I don't want 30mil tied up in Proto Assault Gear. That said If they take my pile of officer weapons I'll throw a fit See that's what I am also afraid of disheartening as well, I mean I have some rust red and steel heavy suits I wear in the barge and they're getting deleted likely.
better not take away officer gear, i've never gotten to use any of it |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
12
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:44:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:If I get a SP refund AND ISK for all my useless dropships....omfg.
Just so you know, I'm putting points into scanning just for you |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
EoN.
434
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:50:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:If I get a SP refund AND ISK for all my useless dropships....omfg.
I think all the regular players have 50-60mil tied up in dropships. I doubt they will refund looted items. This whole refund is seeming more and more crazy. I must have 150-200mil in looted gear. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
571
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:51:00 -
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So you're saying my officer weapons and beloved Hazard suit will be gone?
This is a very sad day for me |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
1224
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Posted - 2013.04.17 03:53:00 -
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So I am going to make a 1000% AUR return on those militia BPO's?
This is a very happy day for me. |
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