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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:18:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Please don't give in to the people demanding merc pack refunds/aurum refunds. If you must take this demand into consideration, consider this..........those who want refund get sp reset too.
I heard somewhere that a full aurum refund would also involve character reset? I may be wrong, but a lot of us are at a comfortable position now in terms of skills etc, and it would be wrong to punish 90% of players because of the 10% who want this refund . sycophants.
Whatever mate, im no ass kisser or suck up, I simply do not like a$$holes who want free aurum and who are trying to f**k up this game.
It's not going to stop here either, a year from now people will think of another way to beg for free aurum. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
838
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:43:00 -
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You do realise that closed beta vets are the only ones with any possibility of a legitimate claim to merc pack reimbursement?
Seems strange that you speak for all of them against it. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
82
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:49:00 -
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<-------Closed Beta Player, happy with no merc pack reimbursement. |
ca ronic
Moffit Bros
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:58:00 -
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I think I was looking at this only through my perspective.
What if someone bought a bunch of consumables with their aurum, foolish things, not caring because they thought they would be getting the aurum back. The other thread suggest returning only aurum spent on those things that were destroyed, is that even feasible though? Most of us probably put most the aurum into boosters, but maybe some have a point for wanting a refund.
I just bought one merc pack and considered it the cost of the game. Spent all the aurum on boosters, and never expected anything back. When I found out I could keep the SP after commercial release that was a bonus. ya, CCP put themselves in kind of a tough spot.
I'm with the other guy, just leave it in beta for the next 8 years. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
475
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Posted - 2013.04.16 15:50:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:They got what they paid for, the AUR items weren't defective. We were informed that the move to Tranquility would be the last wipe planned, if they wasted their items despite that, then it is their fault. Nitpicking at language and playing internet lawyer is annoying.
They should stop trying to ruin everything for the rest of us; its really annoying. This. +1
Also +1. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.04.16 16:06:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Please don't give in to the people demanding merc pack refunds/aurum refunds. If you must take this demand into consideration, consider this..........those who want refund get sp reset too.
Or how about the closed beta vets who actually spent money in closed beta buying Merc Packs should have a say, since the terms were changed on PSN as we moved into open beta? If you bought a Merc Pack under the condition where we have reason to question what's happening, you either bought it at Gamestop (who CCP have tried to ask to change their description) or you bought it while the game was in closed beta. A large portion of the people asking for what we paid for ARE closed beta vets.
Quote:I heard somewhere that a full aurum refund would also involve character reset? I may be wrong, but a lot of us are at a comfortable position now in terms of skills etc, and it would be wrong to punish 90% of players because of the 10% who want this refund .
And there's been no official source cited by anyone who's claimed a character reset would be required for an Aurum reset, and I don't think they've had a single thread with a Dev or GM post that said anything more relevant to the topic than "locked for [insert reason]". |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
235
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Posted - 2013.04.16 17:00:00 -
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Its a really simple and easy option for CCP
Option A - Those who want the merc pack refunds and all ther AUR have to go through a full chara reset, so they lose all the items/SP and ISK they have acquired and start at square 0
Option B - Those who do NOT want a merc pack refund can keep all the SP/ISK and items acquired and carry on as usual
Im a closed beta vet who bought the merc packs to use - i havnt been cheated, i got all my items and AUR and have put them to use to buy boosters and obtain 8.5mil in SP which are in tanks, i vote for option B
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Osiris Ausare
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
31
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Posted - 2013.04.16 17:04:00 -
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I'm an open beta player, and when I bought my merc packs I wasn't expecting a refund, I spent my money, I received exactly what I wanted and I'm happy. And like a lot of other mercs I will continue to buy merc packs, not only for the aur and items, but also to support CCP. It seems like a lot of people have forgotten that CCP is still a business and money needs to be generated to support their products. The gift we have all received is not having a monthly fee nor an initial purchase of the game. In fact, you can play Dust without ever having to spend any money, however, production and up keep of the game requires funding and that is where the merc packs come in.
If we had a full refund, not only will CCP be loosing money, but no one will be buying merc packs for the foreseeable future causing a massive decline in profit, and a potential failure of the game. Remember, games are not made for free, especially ones that are so detailed (yes I know the graphics suck, and there are bugs, however the constant evolution of the game requires capital). Unfortunately this is not a charity, its a for profit company that is providing us with a product that is created on the money we spend.
Instead of going in circles, constantly complaining that you lost money, or you want a refund, think about what it would do to the state of the game, but as I've noticed over the last two months this community loves to complain and QQ.
That is all I have to say and I will reiterate my above statement, I don't want a refund and I will continue to buy merc packs. I support the vets on this topic and hopefully we don't ruin this game.
Osiris. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
210
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Posted - 2013.04.16 17:05:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:They got what they paid for, the AUR items weren't defective. We were informed that the move to Tranquility would be the last wipe planned, if they wasted their items despite that, then it is their fault. Nitpicking at language and playing internet lawyer is annoying.
They should stop trying to ruin everything for the rest of us; its really annoying.
yup |
Ninjanomyx
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
29
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Posted - 2013.04.16 17:27:00 -
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There are too many variables to consider when proposing a "Partial Reset". SP gained from Active/Passive Booster(s) being the least complicated, & WP/SP/KDR/WLR gained by lesser skilled Players using AUR Equips to circumvent the necessary Skill Allocation(s) being the most complicated to guage. Thus the proposition is invalidated since an AUR Reset would essentially promote "Pay-2-Win" as you would get all of said AUR/Gear previously used to gain an Advantage, thus essentially doubling said Advantage. This is especially apparent for those who deployed a significant amount of "Wallet Spam" when the Merc Pack was 1/2 Price, essentially Quadrupling the Return on Investment.
TL;DR: I saw a Commercial for DUST 514 on TV, the Game is Open to the Public, Commerce was/is/will be made. They "Released" a "Commercial"........Commercial Release condition satisfied, Reset happened, move along. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2518
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Posted - 2013.04.16 17:31:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:They got what they paid for, the AUR items weren't defective. We were informed that the move to Tranquility would be the last wipe planned, if they wasted their items despite that, then it is their fault. Nitpicking at language and playing internet lawyer is annoying.
They should stop trying to ruin everything for the rest of us; its really annoying.
Just coming back to this while it's still being quoted...
Last wipe = last "character reset" as referred to in the Merc Pack product description.
It was also clearly stated that this was NOT "commercial release", which was also referred to - INDEPENDENT OF WIPES/RESETS - as a point at which Merc Pack contents were to be credited back. Just to be clear, it was clearly stated that there was one of the Merc Pack's conditions still yet to be fulfilled. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1286
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Posted - 2013.04.16 18:19:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:They got what they paid for, the AUR items weren't defective. We were informed that the move to Tranquility would be the last wipe planned, if they wasted their items despite that, then it is their fault. Nitpicking at language and playing internet lawyer is annoying.
They should stop trying to ruin everything for the rest of us; its really annoying.
Amen, brother.
Alaika Arbosa wrote:<-------Closed Beta Player, happy with no merc pack reimbursement.
Same here. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1153
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Posted - 2013.04.16 20:04:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:They got what they paid for, the AUR items weren't defective. We were informed that the move to Tranquility would be the last wipe planned, if they wasted their items despite that, then it is their fault. Nitpicking at language and playing internet lawyer is annoying.
They should stop trying to ruin everything for the rest of us; its really annoying. Amen, brother. Alaika Arbosa wrote:<-------Closed Beta Player, happy with no merc pack reimbursement. Same here.
But the "last wipe planned" has absolutely nothing at all to do with commercial release, and we were never once informed in any way that the terms of the Merc Pack were changed. I'm still using my Merc Pack gear and AUR under the assumption that it will be refunded to me at commercial release. That's what I have sold and CCP have not yet, once, anywhere, at all, said otherwise. |
GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
335
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Posted - 2013.04.16 20:50:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:I'm an open beta player,
Then none of this applies to you, as you didn't buy a merc pack with the conditions the rest of us are talking about.
Thanks for your opinion, but please don't take this the wrong way when I say that it is irrelevant.
This matter does not concern you.
In fact that applies to everyone who did not buy one of the affected merc packs.
You don't get a say in a contract dispute between the buyers and CCP. |
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