DUST Search - Greed amazes me

Yeva Kalsani wrote:

I bought stuff like the Merc Pack and extra AUR because I wanted to support CCP and DUST. I have basically bought a new game in terms of what I've spent in total, and for now, that's that. That I got in-game goodies is an added bonus. Having thoroughly read the terms of use and the store descriptions of these real-money purchases, I actually half-expected to see it all disappear once the game exits beta status. Anything they refund or let us keep or goodies they award us for participation is awesome of them, in my book.

That said, it's not necessarily that people are greedy, it's that they're confusing these purchases with buying a finished product or some form of special service rendered. Right now, IMHO, paying CCP money for DUST in any form is kind of like funding a kickstarter project. The way I understand it, they're letting you keep what you paid for, and compensating for things they take away. In other aspects, you have to rely on the company's good will that you will eventually get what you paid for, which you should only do in good faith. They never agreed to anybody paying now, and getting twice their part of the bargain just for being firsties, though.


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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2487	Posted - 2013.04.14 20:27:00 - [1] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: And dont forget that CCP preserved themself the rights to change their policy about this subject. By buying the merc pack you agreed with the terms and conditions. Basically means you cant do anything about it legally. CCP have the right to alter the contents of the game at any point. They have the right to alter anything you "own" in the game that you acquired THROUGH IN-GAME MEANS. They DON'T have any right to alter the terms of purchase under which we bought the Merc Pack, which specifically stated that we get a full credit of all our Merc Pack contents on every reset (all of which have been done) AND AT COMMERCIAL RELEASE (which hasn't happened yet). They also have only limited rights to alter the contents of the Merc Pack when crediting us with that gear. They could, for example, alter the stats on the HK4M Shotguns that come with the pack, or change the Dragonfly suit to a Minmatar design instead of the current Gallente version. But we still have to get every item - OR an equivalent item - as described in the Merc Pack contents that comprised a portion of the purchase agreement. The terms that we as customers agreed to - AND which CCP agreed to by selling us our Merc Packs with that description - directly state that, regardless of whether commercial release includes a reset or not, those of us who bought Merc Packs at that time are legally entitled to another crediting back of our Merc Packs. There's no ambiguity, no "maybe you'll get the credit and maybe you won't", no "you only get your release-day credit if we decide to have a reset at the time".
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2490	Posted - 2013.04.14 20:43:00 - [2] - Quote Victin Ashis wrote: King Kobrah wrote: We're not greedy, we're entitled to it. it CLEARLY differentiates between RESETS and ON RELEASE. Why would they say AND ON RELEASE if they didn't plan on giving it back ON RELEASE? seems pretty clear to me CCP had a mind to give it all back on release, regardless of a reset, and anyone with a basic understanding of english can understand that after reading the merc pack. No it didn't. It states that they MAY need to reset during beta and on commercially release, nowhere did it state they would be resetting on commercial release. Nobody's saying they promised a reset on commercial release. Where did you get that from? They promised a full credit of the contents of the Merc Pack on commercial release, but they didn't promise a reset with it.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2497	Posted - 2013.04.14 22:33:00 - [3] - Quote Yeva Kalsani wrote: I bought stuff like the Merc Pack and extra AUR because I wanted to support CCP and DUST. I have basically bought a new game in terms of what I've spent in total, and for now, that's that. That I got in-game goodies is an added bonus. Having thoroughly read the terms of use and the store descriptions of these real-money purchases, I actually half-expected to see it all disappear once the game exits beta status. Anything they refund or let us keep or goodies they award us for participation is awesome of them, in my book. That said, it's not necessarily that people are greedy, it's that they're confusing these purchases with buying a finished product or some form of special service rendered. Right now, IMHO, paying CCP money for DUST in any form is kind of like funding a kickstarter project. The way I understand it, they're letting you keep what you paid for, and compensating for things they take away. In other aspects, you have to rely on the company's good will that you will eventually get what you paid for, which you should only do in good faith. They never agreed to anybody paying now, and getting twice their part of the bargain just for being firsties, though. Closed beta version of Merc Pack description, courtesy of Deluxe Edition and DUST 411. That says very clearly that people who purchased the Merc Pack on those terms are entitled to a reset of our Merc Pack with every character reset, AND a reset of the Merc Pack at commercial release - REGARDLESS of whether there's a character reset for commercial release or not. The wording is clear and specific and easily understood. It doesn't guarantee a reset or lack thereof. It only guarantees a credit of all Merc Pack contents, meaning that we SHOULD be getting everything back when the game is officially released.