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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:00:00 -
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Why not play games of skirmish, all be logi bro's and not capture the null cannons, and just take turns capturing turrets ect, shooting each other some, letting each other rep up, repeat. Kill someone, one gets a kill, another gets a revive. Seriously, if your gonna have loads of you farming, at least farm properly. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
1158
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:02:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Why not play games of skirmish, all be logi bro's and not capture the null cannons, and just take turns capturing turrets ect, shooting each other some, letting each other rep up, repeat. Kill someone, one gets a kill, another gets a revive. Seriously, if your gonna have loads of you farming, at least farm properly. because then they'd have to play, rather than do whatever else they're doing, the whole point of afking is to get sp while doing something else. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
185
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:05:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Why not play games of skirmish, all be logi bro's and not capture the null cannons, and just take turns capturing turrets ect, shooting each other some, letting each other rep up, repeat. Kill someone, one gets a kill, another gets a revive. Seriously, if your gonna have loads of you farming, at least farm properly. because then they'd have to play, rather than do whatever else they're doing, the whole point of afking is to get sp while doing something else.
cos standing at a turret with a redberry, taking turns hacking is much more effort, I be willing to bet that the people who AFK are literally still in the room, on a laptop or something |
Thog A Kuma
Planetary Response Organisation
59
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:06:00 -
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it is kinda like mining in high sec.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
1158
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:13:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:gbghg wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Why not play games of skirmish, all be logi bro's and not capture the null cannons, and just take turns capturing turrets ect, shooting each other some, letting each other rep up, repeat. Kill someone, one gets a kill, another gets a revive. Seriously, if your gonna have loads of you farming, at least farm properly. because then they'd have to play, rather than do whatever else they're doing, the whole point of afking is to get sp while doing something else. cos standing at a turret with a redberry, taking turns hacking is much more effort, I be willing to bet that the people who AFK are literally still in the room, on a laptop or something yeah, but your on the laptop, doing other stuff, and seriously, what are the chances of what you said happening? |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1046
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:16:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Why not play games of skirmish, all be logi bro's and not capture the null cannons, and just take turns capturing turrets ect, shooting each other some, letting each other rep up, repeat. Kill someone, one gets a kill, another gets a revive. Seriously, if your gonna have loads of you farming, at least farm properly. because then they'd have to play, rather than do whatever else they're doing, the whole point of afking is to get sp while doing something else.
What's the point of squadding up and afk farming then? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2564
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:17:00 -
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Thog A Kuma wrote:it is kinda like mining in high sec.
Except that was an intended feature
You can't reason with AFKers, we'll just have to wait for Uprising I suppose. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
186
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:19:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Thog A Kuma wrote:it is kinda like mining in high sec.
Except that was an intended feature You can't reason with AFKers, we'll just have to wait for Uprising I suppose.
I don't see uprising fixing the AFK problem really, maybe for a short while unless Corps intend to invade as much as possible so theres alot of Corp battles going on. |
William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:28:00 -
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I wish more people would afk, even those who would rather play....if you cant go 500 in a game you should afk. There is no point in you playing, afk, do laundry, wash dishes, do homework, let the system that rewards bad players work to your advantage. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2564
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:28:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:I don't see uprising fixing the AFK problem really, maybe for a short while unless Corps intend to invade as much as possible so theres alot of Corp battles going on.
Well we're getting a new SP system (I'm fairly sure) so we'll just have to see.
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Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:33:00 -
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remove the skill point cap. all they need to do is kick inactive players..a set time of standing still like 1 minute
or players must get atleast 100 war points for skill points and isk to count. its stupid ive just hit the cap on a fresh account in 6 hours. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2564
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:38:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:remove the skill point cap.
We already went through a huge ordeal where this was very widely considered a horrible idea. |
Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:41:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:remove the skill point cap.
We already went through a huge ordeal where this was very widely considered a horrible idea. the game will just keep loosing players if the skill cap stays..untill theres few loyal people left.like the 10 people on thi forum.
hows is a new player ever gonna make any progress with this cap? with the cap its about 6 mill skill points a year..that ridiculous..probably a bit more |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2564
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:41:00 -
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::walks away:: |
Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:49:00 -
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the cap is probably there to force people into paying real money for boosters. |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
413
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:52:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:remove the skill point cap.
We already went through a huge ordeal where this was very widely considered a horrible idea. the game will just keep loosing players if the skill cap stays..untill theres few loyal people left.like the 10 people on thi forum. hows is a new player ever gonna make any progress with this cap? with the cap its about 6 mill skill points a year..that ridiculous..probably a bit more
To stop people like you from farming the hell out of dust.
I think they should have done it like eve but give wp up to a cap as enhanced progress.
But the community voted and it was decided.
Also there is only 5 levels per skill.
They can make progress like nubs in eve.
Also I have 7mil sp and don't cap every week... much much not than 6mil per year. |
Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:58:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:remove the skill point cap.
We already went through a huge ordeal where this was very widely considered a horrible idea. the game will just keep loosing players if the skill cap stays..untill theres few loyal people left.like the 10 people on thi forum. hows is a new player ever gonna make any progress with this cap? with the cap its about 6 mill skill points a year..that ridiculous..probably a bit more To stop people like you from farming the hell out of dust. I think they should have done it like eve but give wp up to a cap as enhanced progress. But the community voted and it was decided. Also there is only 5 levels per skill. They can make progress like nubs in eve. Also I have 7mil sp and don't cap every week... much much not than 6mil per year. if i play the game dont i deserve some progress on my character?.
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William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:59:00 -
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If you cant go 500 kdr in match you should afk and get some real life stuff done. |
Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:00:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:If you cant go 500 kdr in match you should afk and get some real life stuff done.
500 kills in 1 game @Val'herik Dorn show me this community vote |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
1211
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:02:00 -
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Good luck getting a consenting redberry willing to boost with you, and not having anyone on your team or the other see you two boosting and kill one of you. And don't forget even the people on your team are spiteful enough to kill boosters. |
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KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:03:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:remove the skill point cap.
We already went through a huge ordeal where this was very widely considered a horrible idea. the game will just keep loosing players if the skill cap stays..untill theres few loyal people left.like the 10 people on thi forum. hows is a new player ever gonna make any progress with this cap? with the cap its about 6 mill skill points a year..that ridiculous..probably a bit more lolwut? |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1046
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:13:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:remove the skill point cap.
We already went through a huge ordeal where this was very widely considered a horrible idea. the game will just keep loosing players if the skill cap stays..untill theres few loyal people left.like the 10 people on thi forum. hows is a new player ever gonna make any progress with this cap? with the cap its about 6 mill skill points a year..that ridiculous..probably a bit more
I earned 6M skill points last month....where did you get that number from? |
Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:14:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:remove the skill point cap.
We already went through a huge ordeal where this was very widely considered a horrible idea. the game will just keep loosing players if the skill cap stays..untill theres few loyal people left.like the 10 people on thi forum. hows is a new player ever gonna make any progress with this cap? with the cap its about 6 mill skill points a year..that ridiculous..probably a bit more I earned 6M skill points last month....where did you get that number from?
how did you get the skill points then? |
William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:16:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:William HBonney wrote:If you cant go 500 kdr in match you should afk and get some real life stuff done. 500 kills in 1 game @Val'herik Dorn show me this community vote Not 500 kills...batting 500 simply means a 1.0 kdr....if u don't have a 1.0 or better kdr u should camp |
Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:41:00 -
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a Ydubbs81 RNDcan you tell me how you got 6 mill sp in the past month
well noy 6 mill sp a year ... is about 11.9 mill sp a year if you dont pay with boosters/ thats just 190000x52 |
Nylithe Empyreal
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:44:00 -
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Afk'ing in dust, while mining in eve, while browsing the internet. |
Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:45:00 -
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Nylithe Empyreal wrote:Afk'ing in dust, while mining in eve, while browsing the internet.
thats all it seems dust is goood for AFKing till you hit the cap then probably not even playing for 5 days till it resets
people obviously do not know this but 90% of players are playing for the fun of earning skill points and buying everythin in the market place to use in gam,e |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
67
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:49:00 -
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I really can't wait until the next build, hopefully the loss of the ill-gotten SP will cause the forums to be cleansed of this tripe through an epic flood of tears just before all of these asshats emo ragequit cause they can't get their e-peen AFK stroked anymore. |
Nylithe Empyreal
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:53:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:Nylithe Empyreal wrote:Afk'ing in dust, while mining in eve, while browsing the internet. thats all it seems dust is goood for AFKing till you hit the cap then probably not even playing for 5 days till it resets people obviously do not know this but 90% of players are playing for the fun of earning skill points and buying everythin in the market place to use in gam,e
Oh wasn't saying in my regard, merely musing on the fact that someone is probably doing it. Personally I just afk in eve while shooting in dust :P |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
67
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:55:00 -
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Nylithe Empyreal wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:Nylithe Empyreal wrote:Afk'ing in dust, while mining in eve, while browsing the internet. thats all it seems dust is goood for AFKing till you hit the cap then probably not even playing for 5 days till it resets people obviously do not know this but 90% of players are playing for the fun of earning skill points and buying everythin in the market place to use in gam,e Oh wasn't saying in my regard, merely musing on the fact that someone is probably doing it. Personally I just afk in eve while shooting in dust :P
I have to admit that I will do this too, though I am usually also participating in chats in between matches as well as monitoring the markets Eve side. |
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Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:56:00 -
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i just looked up the voting system on the skill cap....it was 27k daily sp..ludicris... everyone hates it .
this is like some cheap rpg game made from a website by some crook.. on the pc where you can buy stuff to upgrade character slightly faster.
and its crawled onto PSN..shame on sony |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
68
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:58:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:i just looked up the voting system on the skill cap....it was 27k daily sp..ludicris... everyone hates it .
this is like some cheap rpg game on the pc where you can buy stuff to upgrade character slightly faster.
and its crawled onto PSN..shame on sony
Simples, don't like it?
Then don't play it, delete it from your PS3 and move on.
You will not be missed. |
Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:12:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:i just looked up the voting system on the skill cap....it was 27k daily sp..ludicris... everyone hates it .
this is like some cheap rpg game on the pc made from a website by some crook..where you can buy stuff to upgrade character slightly faster.
and its crawled onto PSN..shame on sony Door's that way --------------->
By the way, can I have you stuff? |
Hazed2085
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
5
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:14:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:i just looked up the voting system on the skill cap....it was 27k daily sp..ludicris... everyone hates it .
this is like some cheap rpg game on the pc made from a website by some crook..where you can buy stuff to upgrade character slightly faster.
and its crawled onto PSN..shame on sony Door's that way ---------------> By the way, can I have you stuff? what stuff ive been playing 1 week i have nothin at all..1 week of playing and have nothin ...all i got was some stupid skill point cap.. strangely its slightly annoyed me
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:33:00 -
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The more i see these threads the more i want to actually afk,maybe i should try it out to see whats the deal |
Re Warping Shooter
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:00:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:i just looked up the voting system on the skill cap....it was 27k daily sp..ludicris... everyone hates it .
this is like some cheap rpg game on the pc made from a website by some crook..where you can buy stuff to upgrade character slightly faster.
and its crawled onto PSN..shame on sony Door's that way ---------------> By the way, can I have you stuff? what stuff ive been playing 1 week i have nothin at all..1 week of playing and have nothin ...all i got was some stupid skill point cap.. strangely its slightly annoyed me
Plays for 1 week, expects to have all protos dropsuits, weapons, equipment, etc,etc. 2 Reasons why the cap exists: 1- To promote longer gameplay, when people hit the cap after aprox 30-40 matches, im pretty sure no one is going to play until it gets reseted (every wednesday)
2- To make people actually consider buying boosters, cuz you know, thats what they are all about, boosting.
I hope this post wasnt too complex for your logic. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:28:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:....if you can't go 500 in a game you should afk. There is no point in you playing, afk, do laundry, wash dishes, do homework, let the system that rewards bad players work to your advantage. You sound like an economist. Go back to your campus Professor HBonney! |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
80
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:53:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:i just looked up the voting system on the skill cap....it was 27k daily sp..ludicris... everyone hates it .
this is like some cheap rpg game on the pc made from a website by some crook..where you can buy stuff to upgrade character slightly faster.
and its crawled onto PSN..shame on sony Door's that way ---------------> By the way, can I have you stuff? what stuff ive been playing 1 week i have nothin at all..1 week of playing and have nothin ...all i got was some stupid skill point cap.. strangely its slightly annoyed me
QQ I'm space poor.
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William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.15 05:30:00 -
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I would prefer if more people camped the MCC. Just like all mmrpgs you gain exp by doing mundane repetitive tasks. In this game it is shooting stuff...hacking etc ....however, because some people are horrible at fpses because it takes twitch skill and situational awareness that most RPGs do not require they put in the "for your time SP". Now this for your time SP just happens to be about 75-80% of your total SP no matter how well you perform during the match. So while I would complain about a guy going 0-10 in a game and getting 200 WP, you guys complain about someone who doesn't have a negative effect on the score. You guys act like AFKers are cheating the system, when SP is a virtual thing and this type of accruing isn't commonplace in every other mmrpg. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
467
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Posted - 2013.04.15 07:17:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Hazed2085 wrote:i just looked up the voting system on the skill cap....it was 27k daily sp..ludicris... everyone hates it .
this is like some cheap rpg game on the pc made from a website by some crook..where you can buy stuff to upgrade character slightly faster.
and its crawled onto PSN..shame on sony Door's that way ---------------> By the way, can I have you stuff? what stuff ive been playing 1 week i have nothin at all..1 week of playing and have nothin ...all i got was some stupid skill point cap.. strangely its slightly annoyed me
Hey look a Newberry!!
I remember back in April of 2012 we had two hundred thousand sp per game and on my best games I did four hundred thousand sp per game.
Hey Newberry get a grip.
The sp system is much more balanced than when we tossed dirt clods at each other then were were given advanced technology and thus we discovered throwing rocks was much better.
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trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
293
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Posted - 2013.04.15 07:33:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:gbghg wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:Why not play games of skirmish, all be logi bro's and not capture the null cannons, and just take turns capturing turrets ect, shooting each other some, letting each other rep up, repeat. Kill someone, one gets a kill, another gets a revive. Seriously, if your gonna have loads of you farming, at least farm properly. because then they'd have to play, rather than do whatever else they're doing, the whole point of afking is to get sp while doing something else. What's the point of squadding up and afk farming then?
Simple: 1) by squadding up only one person needs to do the joining, allowing others to afk with spawn click only 2) by squadding up you can take turns on who clicks the join game, while there is a slight chance the wholly afk ones get reward for a fast ending game without noticing 3) by squadding up you bring more afk into one side of match, resulting in faster matches and faster isk/loot
Afk farming is primarily about isk and gear, not sp. SP is done weekly as a side product, you get that in one day's worth of decent play. E.g. I personally just donated 150M of afk farmed isk to corp for PC. Are you contributing the best you can? |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
0
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Posted - 2013.04.15 07:36:00 -
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Hazed2085 wrote:the cap is probably there to force people into paying real money for boosters.
gee, you think?
CCP has to make money somehow |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
81
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:06:00 -
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I think it is there to help curb the crying. How many tears would pour if the really good players or the players who can play all the time did not get capped? Lots. People would have proto gear in two days and more tears. The tanks would be unstoppable and more tears. Noobs can't get a foothold and more tears. See where I am going? No cap is bad for this game. If you put your first 2 weeks of SP into skills that compliment your play style then there is not problems. Being a noob in DUST is hard but that is life. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
102
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:07:00 -
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for me this is the same case as mining bots in EvE and should be punished accordingly, CCP should remove the stuff aquired. have fun with negative wallets and no SP.
what stops people with multiple PS3 run several characters at once and farm isk for their corp? I could do this, I have 2 working PS3 at home. |
Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
235
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:26:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:I would prefer if more people camped the MCC. Just like all mmrpgs you gain exp by doing mundane repetitive tasks. In this game it is shooting stuff...hacking etc ....however, because some people are horrible at fpses because it takes twitch skill and situational awareness that most RPGs do not require they put in the "for your time SP". Now this for your time SP just happens to be about 75-80% of your total SP no matter how well you perform during the match. So while I would complain about a guy going 0-10 in a game and getting 200 WP, you guys complain about someone who doesn't have a negative effect on the score. You guys act like AFKers are cheating the system, when SP is a virtual thing and this type of accruing isn't commonplace in every other mmrpg.
Name me one game where you gain experience sitting there afk not doing anything.
You also have to look at it this way as well my biggest complaint is you get 2-3 afk people on your side then add in a few useless snipers sitting in the redzone most of the time so then your team is down 5-6 people so it end's up being 16 against 10 or even worse you get a group of 3 that sit in one tank and hide in the back most of the match so it becomes 16vs about 7.
Yes I have been in match's that pretty much follow the example I just gave. Also I always seem to end up on the side with the Afk people |
blue gt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:35:00 -
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enough with this no skill cap bull ****, IF CCP removed the cap the returns for playing a match would go down so you would only get as much as you do now if you where to play 23/7. so stfu about this **** already.
Now on to the subject at hand, you get nothing but deaths counted for as long as you are in the red line. There is no good reason for being there for more then 30 secs a red line spawn ,NONE! whats that you can't see your own red line fine add a blue line to the game to show your own redline. |
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