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WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:12:00 -
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LR is fine. All my SP is spent on them and assault dropsuit. The only thing they need to fix is the overheat skills and the Viziam LR damage. 17-18 damage on the Viziam is good for me. The thing really melts everything and I'm not even using damage mods. I have sharpshooter +4 and ARs make a joke of my low range and shields. Also I'm useless in CQC, use a scout, get up where I am and shotgun me. You can also use a sniper, my position is easily discovered. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
699
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:20:00 -
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It's fun melting people with only the standard, don't nerf my perfect accuracy win button |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
148
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:54:00 -
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ggggggggg g wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The best way to find something's weakness is to use it. Lasers dominate a very narrow niche, and you can take advantage of that.
The best thing to do is probably sneak into CQC (don't sprint through an open area- that's just stupid), or simply snipe them. I've learned as a sniper that laser rifles are fairly vulnerable to sniper fire, since they can't be sneaky, and must expose themselves to safely heat the rifle. The problem with the "just use a sniper rifle" theory is laser rifles have 95% of the effective range of sniper rifles, and sniper rifles 10% of the effective dps (if that). Sure, there are a few maps where you are outside of laser range if you and the laser are both in corners, but that's about it.
That's 100% false, LR have less range than an AR at default levels, you only notice the range because that's where the most damage is done with LR's Even if the user has level 10 sharpshooter the range is still not comparable to a sniper rifle. Sure theres one or two maps where the range at that point would be able to cover everything, but 8 times out of 10 its not either of those maps. Not to mention that most LR users will post up on a perch somewhere (which usually means easy pickings for snipers) just sayin.... |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
148
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:56:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:I stand my point, laser rifles require skill and are not OP. I disagree, not that it will change your opinion. I've seen Laser Riflemen kill dropsuits within a second, even without continous fire. I'm not sure how they do it, because I have so far been unable to replicate the results, but it is pretty good proof to me that Laser Rifles have a massive potential for being overpowered. As do Assault Rifles and HAVs (yes, I admit it, but they are not the only offender here). When I used the Laser Rifle myself, without any special skills, it seemed a fair weapon. Not underpowered, not overpowered. It worked nicely at longer ranges, though at extreme ranges the beam just stopped at a certain point. Even with skills and damage modifiers being taken into account, I'm not sure how the Laser Rifle becomes overpowered, but it does. Well we have an agreement/disagreement here bro. Its not the weapons that are OP, but the weapon damage mods. Try a type - B logi with 3X complex damage mods.That with Lv 5 weaponry skill and god forbid lv 5 proficiency make your lazer rifle a continuous sniper rifle XD.(plus laser rifles get HUGE range bonuses with Light weapon sniper skills) I've have as it is a cheap Logi Type-I with 2 complex damage mods for ambush and if its not a HEAVY it will drop in under 4 secs of continous fire. About the non continuous fire part, i will not comment since it hasn't happened to me nor i know anything about. Neither lasers nor weapon mods are op. In most cases, shield extenders are better than weapon mods. I'm guessing you whiners only play ambush. Here's the issue - ambush basically devolves into two blobs that set up at extreme AR range. This is the sweet spot for lasers. Lasers really only work well at this range. So, the problem, if there is one, is you think a weapon being used in it's absolutely most optimal mode should be balanced so it isn't better than the ubiquitous AR being used at the extreme end of it's usable range. No. Go play some skirmish. Close on the laser rifle. Stay out of the open. Snipe them. Flank them. It isn't that hard. Use your brain, you'll do better.
100% what he said |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
148
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:59:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:ggggggggg g wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The best way to find something's weakness is to use it. Lasers dominate a very narrow niche, and you can take advantage of that.
The best thing to do is probably sneak into CQC (don't sprint through an open area- that's just stupid), or simply snipe them. I've learned as a sniper that laser rifles are fairly vulnerable to sniper fire, since they can't be sneaky, and must expose themselves to safely heat the rifle. The problem with the "just use a sniper rifle" theory is laser rifles have 95% of the effective range of sniper rifles, and sniper rifles 10% of the effective dps (if that). Sure, there are a few maps where you are outside of laser range if you and the laser are both in corners, but that's about it. Lol. Seriously, do some homework so you don't look so stupid. Lasers have basically the same range as ARs. Sniper rifles have a range, by default, of 600m. Lasers start out at 84m without skills. Damn you people are crybabies.
why is it that most people don't know this??? I mean, yeah they got great DPS at range but that doesn't mean they have more range then an AR. |
ggggggggg g
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:13:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote: Don't nerf the only weapon I use cause I'm a crybaby!
Fixed. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:26:00 -
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ggggggggg g wrote:Buster Friently wrote: Don't nerf the only weapon I use cause I'm a crybaby!
Fixed.
Lol. For the record, I mostly run MD.
I have used all the weapons though, and I can field an ELM-7. Ad Hominem all you got? |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
7
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:59:00 -
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Quit playing Ambush. (Almost) nobody is dumb enough to use lasers in Skirmishes. Usually within 0.4 seconds of seeing Laser fire, 5 berries run n' gun the chump down. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:30:00 -
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Lasers are awesome.
I have only one character with any skill in Laser Rifles, and I have several friends (and my girlfriend) learning to use them as well.
The Viziam is getting a nerf, but Laser skills are getting reworked - and presumably made to actually work this time around.
As a Shotgunnner, it doesn't really matter about the damage and skill problems. If I get caught trying to sneak up on someone with a Laser Rifle, I'm probably dead before I'm in range, or I have to fall back and try another angle. If I get inside their range, shooting at me is a waste of ammo and they're better of pulling a Sidearm. At which point, I still have the advantage, because I have a Shotgun. |
Tuvar Hede
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.15 04:51:00 -
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I played with the Laser some since I started this post. I can only use the Meta 1 laser and was still melting people where as my AR skill's seem so lackluster at level 4. Laser accuracy I have come to believe is the main issue because even if you suck at aiming you can swipe the beam back and forth and still do real damage. In close I swap to a SMG which works well for me. No other weapon in the game allows solid beam style fire which I think the answer is changint it over to a pulse style weapon like in EVE online. I say this because it becomes more of a weapon where missing the target matters. Also AR's would be improved if they killed iron sights and use a reg dot or holographic style of sight. I have one on my AR-15 and damn this isn't even high tech like DUST is supposed to be lol. Hip rire in close is ok, but otherwise it's worthless and the iron sights suck ass. |
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