DUST Search - COD vs BF3 vs Dust

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Rules:

I just want to start off saying that I do not want you to post based on genre (modern military, space-scifi) aesthetics (what looks better) or story (COD Universe, BF Universe, EVE Universe). If you can tag it into game play by saying something like, "Scifi allows use a greater range of possibilities" or "The modern setting allows there from being to many crutches" (Just examples) then all right.

No opinions without explanations: "BF3 is too boring", "COD sucks", "Dust is stupid". At least back up those statements with actual reasons, "... because the maps are too big', "... you die to fast", "...because the FPS is low".

My favorite is COD (keep reading, before posting Smile

) because it allows for quick games to be held and you can carry the team on your back if your team sucks. As well, as the animations are fluid and not choppy. The thing that keeps me from complete dedication is Lag. It is the plague of the game and almost game breaking at times, heck it's the reason I even tried Dust.

I like BF3, though, I've never played it because that game is really good for PC, though, fairly lack luster for consoles as I've been told. Due mainly to the lower player cap. Though the recoil mechanics, bullet drop and damage are probably the best of any modern game(that I know of). If I did PC it would probably be my favorite game

Dust is OK, though, it has a long way to go as far as Game Play is concerned. It needs better recoil, bullet drop, hit detection, bug fixes etc. The FPS may also need to be improved at some point.

TL;DR

No Trolling
I like COD

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DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 25	Posted - 2013.04.13 01:35:00 - [1] - Quote Rules: I just want to start off saying that I do not want you to post based on genre (modern military, space-scifi) aesthetics (what looks better) or story (COD Universe, BF Universe, EVE Universe). If you can tag it into game play by saying something like, "Scifi allows use a greater range of possibilities" or "The modern setting allows there from being to many crutches" (Just examples) then all right. No opinions without explanations: "BF3 is too boring", "COD sucks", "Dust is stupid". At least back up those statements with actual reasons, "... because the maps are too big', "... you die to fast", "...because the FPS is low". My favorite is COD (keep reading, before posting ) because it allows for quick games to be held and you can carry the team on your back if your team sucks. As well, as the animations are fluid and not choppy. The thing that keeps me from complete dedication is Lag. It is the plague of the game and almost game breaking at times, heck it's the reason I even tried Dust. I like BF3, though, I've never played it because that game is really good for PC, though, fairly lack luster for consoles as I've been told. Due mainly to the lower player cap. Though the recoil mechanics, bullet drop and damage are probably the best of any modern game(that I know of). If I did PC it would probably be my favorite game Dust is OK, though, it has a long way to go as far as Game Play is concerned. It needs better recoil, bullet drop, hit detection, bug fixes etc. The FPS may also need to be improved at some point.
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1436	Posted - 2013.04.13 02:49:00 - [2] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Rules: I just want to start off saying that I do not want you to post based on genre (modern military, space-scifi) aesthetics (what looks better) or story (COD Universe, BF Universe, EVE Universe). If you can tag it into game play by saying something like, "Scifi allows use a greater range of possibilities" or "The modern setting allows there from being to many crutches" (Just examples) then all right. No opinions without explanations: "BF3 is too boring", "COD sucks", "Dust is stupid". At least back up those statements with actual reasons, "... because the maps are too big', "... you die to fast", "...because the FPS is low". My favorite is COD (keep reading, before posting ) because it allows for quick games to be held and you can carry the team on your back if your team sucks. As well, as the animations are fluid and not choppy. The thing that keeps me from complete dedication is Lag. It is the plague of the game and almost game breaking at times, heck it's the reason I even tried Dust. I like BF3, though, I've never played it because that game is really good for PC, though, fairly lack luster for consoles as I've been told. Due mainly to the lower player cap. Though the recoil mechanics, bullet drop and damage are probably the best of any modern game(that I know of). If I did PC it would probably be my favorite game Dust is OK, though, it has a long way to go as far as Game Play is concerned. It needs better recoil, bullet drop, hit detection, bug fixes etc. The FPS may also need to be improved at some point. TL;DR No Trolling I like COD how dare you hate on dust and BF3
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 25	Posted - 2013.04.13 02:56:00 - [3] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: how dare you hate on dust and BF3 Could you please explain where I 'hated' on either?
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 469	Posted - 2013.04.13 03:03:00 - [4] - Quote I love the vehicles in DUST, lament the lack of it in CoD, and wonder if we will be able to destroy buildings in DUST like in BF3. For the most part, I don't bother even trying to compare DUST and its potential with those other FPSs.
Balzich Rotaine Rotaine Shipping Inc 25	Posted - 2013.04.13 16:32:00 - [5] - Quote They all have good qualities IMO. Cod has super smooth controls and handling as it should considering they have been using the same engine forever. I guess they just can't afford to upgrade it. I like cod when I'm drunk because as long as I'm within an inch or two of someone on my screen when I ads it automatically pulls my reticle to my enemy. I also like cod because I feel like a game god. My character has ESP or something. Every time I'm near an enemy whether I can see them or not my weapon will start tracking them as they run by. Cod is fun because it takes very little skill and the matches are short. I don't like playing that kind of game all the time but it has its place in my library when I want to relax and laugh with friends listening to 12 year olds call us derogatory names. I also like the weapon customization in cod. Nothing says get some some like a diamond lmg. I'm not being sarcastic either cod is fun. Bf3 is prob my favorite. Weapon handling is fun and feels more realistic than cod or dust. The audio is amazing. You can actually tell what kind of weapon is shooting at you. I don't mean AR or Smg I mean oh snap! That's an Ak y'all. I don't need to look at the kill feed to know what I was shot by . I can tell by the noise and I think that's just swell. Graphics are awesome even on console. Pc is over rated who cares if the matches are bigger and the graphics are better. It doesn't matter, because like 85 percent of competitive games on pc 75 percent of the players are cheating. If dust ports to pc I will stop playing. The fps community on pc is the worst group of people on the planet they make any game no matter how cool it is unfun for anyone who doesn't want to cheat. I also love the desructible environments, vehicle play, and map layout. They have some really good maps and I know some people will hate me but I think rush is the best game mode because it forces people together. I also like how the maps open up on rush. Nothing like getting your stuff handed to you out in the open by a bunch of tankers, getting pushed back into the city and dominating their infantry. I think it makes it fun for everyone no matter what your play style. I could go on forever about the battlefield series. I freakin love that junk. Dust is its own animal. I like the idea of the progression system. I like that you actually have to pay for equipment in the field. I like that powerful corps with a ton of cash take a giant dookie on you because that's the way it should be. Even though the monetary aspects are not fully realized it keeps me immersed and engaged in the game world. It's currently the only thing I have been playing. It's gameplay mechanics aren't the best and the audio could use some work but I still dig it. It's potential to be great is limitless. I'm really hoping people stick with it and it succeeds. The cod and bf teams have had a decade or more to perfect their games and controls. I hope ccp will get the same chance with this.
Balzich Rotaine Rotaine Shipping Inc 25	Posted - 2013.04.13 16:46:00 - [6] - Quote Oh I also like how dust forces you to work in a team. I can lone wolf on cod and dominate. I can lone wolf on bf3 and do pretty well and I can lone wolf on dust and die. I hope that they will stop nerfing everything and not give in to the requests to add heavier shields and armor to everything because the game will lose the the team aspect and be just another run and gunner.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1207	Posted - 2013.04.13 17:30:00 - [7] - Quote I personally don't like the design style of CoD- it seems to be biased towards what the average player does and thinks, rather than having something for everyone. Take what sniping has become in black ops 2, for example. Actual sniping is gone- all of the maps are too cramped, probably because the majority of the player base doesn't like being sniped. Instead, they allowed sniper rifles to be further abused as quickscope shotguns, rather than what they should be.
Galrick M'kron Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 60	Posted - 2013.04.13 18:30:00 - [8] - Quote I haven't played either CoD or BF3, but then again, I'm not really interested in "vanilla" shooters. CoD, from what I've heard doesn't encourage teamwork a lot, while I don't have anything to say about BF3. Dust seems very team and role-oriented, and although it has a lot of mechanics/balance issues (which I hope they'll fix soon and not SOONtm) I find it pretty fun due to the gameplay, progression and the advantage teamwork gives you (you can take down a bunch of proto fits with starters if you have a well-coordinated squad). I'd also like to compare DUST to TF2, since they're both very role based games. TF2 has roles much more pre-defined, but is much more balanced as a result (and also because it's pretty older than Dust). The most common fits in Dust still echo TF2 classes though. To give a few examples: Repper Logi: Medic Anyone with a Mass Driver and REs: Demoman Shotty Scout: Scout Sniper Scout: Sniper Logi with inert/axis reppers, nanohives and calling down installations: Engineer Heavy with HMG: Heavy Heavy With Amarr Plasma flamethrower (I hope): Pyro Assault with AR: Soldier (more because it's all-around)
General Sideboob Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 30	Posted - 2013.04.13 19:32:00 - [9] - Quote For me, it's the sound effects that make all the difference. CoD and BF3 have absolutely amazing sound effects. I was disappointed that the Dust beta just has placeholders for sound effects [i hope will be upgraded later]. When you pull the trigger in MW3, it sounds FREAKIN SWEET, like you are at a rifle range, you can almost smell the gunpowder. I feel that the scifi explanation of the sound effects for Dust [they sound different because they aren't standard cartridge firing weapons] is inadequate. I want my guns to go "ratta tat tat, boom boom" not "pfft pfft pfft" I mean really: the current AR sound effect sounds like a fart, for cryin out loud. Maybe the European designers of Dust need to spend some time in the U.S.A., so they can hear what real weapons sound like.
ARF 1049 The Phoenix Federation 15	Posted - 2013.04.13 22:49:00 - [10] - Quote lets see pitting 2 modern military best sellers against a new futuristic game in its beta stages.... makes sense right?! i prefer dust over both these games and i have played black ops more than battlefield but they are both kinda not my type of game they are the games you go and screw around on dust is a bit more serious of a game

DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 29	Posted - 2013.04.14 00:21:00 - [11] - Quote ARF 1049 wrote: lets see pitting 2 modern military best sellers against a new futuristic game in its beta stages.... makes sense right?! i prefer dust over both these games and i have played black ops more than battlefield but they are both kinda not my type of game they are the games you go and screw around on dust is a bit more serious of a game Understand, I didn't choose BF3 &COD for comparison because I think they are better. I did it because they are popular games and most of us have played them. This thread is not meant to bash any game. It is meant to see where COD & BF have failed and where the succeeded; to see what Dust can improve on. I did not explain this as being the drive behind the OP because I wanted to get a less biased point of view. The cat is out of the bag.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 142	Posted - 2013.04.14 02:31:00 - [12] - Quote Personally, CoD, BF and DUST are completely different. CoD is what I play when I want to mess around and shoot people, BF I hate because of the weird bluish tint. But DUST is what I've devoted my gaming time to, simply because I love the feeling of grinding for hours to get enough sp for a new weapon, and then watching as your enemies fall to your awesome might. It sure has a long way to go, but I think dust is going to be awesome
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 30	Posted - 2013.04.14 02:52:00 - [13] - Quote slypie11 wrote: Personally, CoD, BF and DUST are completely different. CoD is what I play when I want to mess around and shoot people, Quote: BF I hate because of the weird bluish tint . But DUST is what I've devoted my gaming time to, simply because I love the feeling of grinding for hours to get enough sp for a new weapon, and then watching as your enemies fall to your awesome might. It sure has a long way to go, but I think dust is going to be awesome I love that bluish tint! Your dead to me!
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1438	Posted - 2013.04.14 06:18:00 - [14] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: how dare you hate on dust and BF3 Could you please explain where I 'hated' on either? on all
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 33	Posted - 2013.04.15 00:29:00 - [15] - Quote You're such a nemesis, Warlord ;D
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1440	Posted - 2013.04.15 03:36:00 - [16] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You're such a nemesis, Warlord ;D I like BF3 and Dust,Crysis why can't we be friends?
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 36	Posted - 2013.04.15 04:56:00 - [17] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You're such a nemesis, Warlord ;D I like BF3 and Dust,Crysis why can't we be friends? 'Cause I love to hate you homie! Plus, you love to troll me. You is my rock... My sarcastic talking rock \^-^/
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1440	Posted - 2013.04.15 05:35:00 - [18] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You're such a nemesis, Warlord ;D I like BF3 and Dust,Crysis why can't we be friends? 'Cause I love to hate you homie! Plus, you love to troll me. You is my rock... My sarcastic talking rock \^-^/ I'm not trolling you
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 1046	Posted - 2013.04.15 10:35:00 - [19] - Quote MAG > all as far as gameplay is concerned
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 146	Posted - 2013.04.15 14:50:00 - [20] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: MAG > all as far as gameplay is concerned Dude mag sucked except for the giant battles.

DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 42	Posted - 2013.04.15 14:52:00 - [21] - Quote slypie11 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: MAG > all as far as gameplay is concerned Dude mag sucked except for the giant battles. Care to elaborate on the games flaws?
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 146	Posted - 2013.04.15 14:55:00 - [22] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: slypie11 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: MAG > all as far as gameplay is concerned Dude mag sucked except for the giant battles. Care to elaborate on the games flaws? The graphics were bad, you said stupid things when you died, many of the beginner weapons sucked. Need I continue?
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 42	Posted - 2013.04.15 15:27:00 - [23] - Quote slypie11 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: slypie11 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: MAG > all as far as gameplay is concerned Dude mag sucked except for the giant battles. Care to elaborate on the games flaws? The graphics were bad, you said stupid things when you died, many of the beginner weapons sucked. Need I continue? Considering I know little of the game... Yes, please and thank y ga
Chris F2112 187. 44	Posted - 2013.04.16 19:27:00 - [24] - Quote I have played some of COD, a lot of BF3, and a pretty good amount of Dust at this point. I really love Battlefield, and I believe that it is a far better multiplayer experience than Call of Duty offers. If you have not tried out Battlefield, you really don't know what you are missing and owe yourself to try it out. It's a slightly slower paced experience, but it's awesome fun, and the vehicles are great. I'm not certain where Dust lands in the triad here. It's so much different than the other games mentioned, I'm not even sure a comparison is worthwhile. If I were going to rate the games now, I'd have BF3 over Dust over COD, but that factors in the potential of what I think Dust is going to turn into. Thing is, Dust is still unfinished. Even though it's brimming with fantastic ideas it just doesn't have the same sheen that either of those two megagames have. I think Dust absolutely has the potential to surpass both BF and COD, but it's not there yet.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 50	Posted - 2013.04.16 20:40:00 - [25] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You're such a nemesis, Warlord ;D I like BF3 and Dust,Crysis why can't we be friends? 'Cause I love to hate you homie! Plus, you love to troll me. You is my rock... My sarcastic talking rock \^-^/ I'm not trolling you That's enough out of you, now shush ;)
Biven Gumbo DUST University Ivy League 1	Posted - 2013.04.16 21:09:00 - [26] - Quote BF3 A lot of that comes from the vehicles and the player base. Seems like the majority of the time I found players in my maturity range to play with on there. I know that sounds snobbish and I don't mean it too, I just get tired of the incessant profanity and name calling on COD. I have to admit that Dust is growing on me. I'm hoping for a more advanced command structure like BF2 had. Once they nerfed it for BF3, I was not longer so interested. Like has been stated before, if I want a free-for-all deathmatch I'll play something else. I am looking for some strategy and squad tactics. Like was stated above, I am not sure it is fair to compare the three. To me, CoD and BF3 are totally different games than DUST. They are billing this as a shooter, and that is really only a small part of the game, IMHO.
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1445	Posted - 2013.04.17 04:18:00 - [27] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You're such a nemesis, Warlord ;D I like BF3 and Dust,Crysis why can't we be friends? 'Cause I love to hate you homie! Plus, you love to troll me. You is my rock... My sarcastic talking rock \^-^/ I'm not trolling you That's enough out of you, now shush ;) dude i'm really not
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 57	Posted - 2013.04.17 23:07:00 - [28] - Quote You are not what now?
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1446	Posted - 2013.04.18 03:03:00 - [29] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: M'kay what????????
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 59	Posted - 2013.04.18 19:42:00 - [30] - Quote ^Back on topic you!



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