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Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.08 19:34:00 -
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Considering how expensive vehicle fits are, unless you plan on buying the AUR militia tank blueprints and using those then you had better use your HAV as an artillery piece rather then MBT if you want to keep using them.
HAVs are also designed as multi-user pieces requiring at least 4 players, sometimes 3 if your lucky, 3 gunners and a repper. That isn't something you will always use unless you are running a full squad who are also tankers. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.08 19:59:00 -
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Alright, I'll give you the DEV perspective, the answer is no. Because if it was then you would easily be making enough cash to be able to keep doing those things, since you can't and really haven't ever been able to and you know you can't you know it isn't viable.
Dropship, LAV and HAVs really are just this, alt character slots for your corp battles. If you are maining one of these then you are gimping yourself on skills that would be useful elsewhere.
*PS* There are always exceptions to the rule, I am sure there is one guy who flies a DS all day and never loses it and makes millions of isk being awesome. And as always, that guy can go 2#R@#$!@ |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:42:00 -
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Well, that Dev post isn't actually saying much. I mean once you can transfer money and items and such I am sure that corps will pay a very good wage to Dropship and HAV pilots. Its true, you will be able to make money, but currently and most likely you will have to be subsidized.
I don't think its to much to ask for a good pilot to demand their corp pay them X million for you to keep training your skills in pubs flying base fits and then comp your losses in corp matches while you earn normal isk. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.11 17:57:00 -
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Actually, you know what I would like to see in Pubs. This is the total Carebear option, but If you spend a good portion of a match inside a dropship or HAV and most of your points come from this and if you gain a certain threshold of WP (Once its fixed for DS) and you lose some DS or such. (All of these must be met and the WP is culmulative not flat rate)
They reward you at the end of the match with some base DS or such BPC.
Its a simple enough fix. If you use them alot and you lose them but are assisting, then you get more. It allows people to always be pilots or drivers if they are decently assisting, it would be a high buy in option because you wouldn't get any BPC until you started contributing to get your WP up.
Example
1. Spend 60%+ Match time in DS
2. 500-1000 WP from vehicle activity (Per instance)
3. Only gain 1 BPC per vehicle lost during fight.
In this example if you spent most your time in a DS and you gained 1000 WP from DS flying and lost 2 DS then you would get 2 militia DS BPC, if you lost 3 DS then you would still only get 2. If you only gained 500 WP and lost 2 DS then you would only get 1 BPC.
Only the cheapest vehicles are given out as BPC, you have to pay for all the fittings.
There is my Carebear Stare Answer, feel free to bacon. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.11 20:00:00 -
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thinking about my post some more, having the server calculate how much time you spend in a drop ship would be kinda lame, and limiting, what about that Pilot Dropsuit Idea, if you get the WP and lose your ride while wearing the Pilot Dropsuit (Which only has a Sidearm Slot and can only fit vehicle enhancing/interfacing mods) Then you get the BPC.
I don't know about increasing the ISK rewards to allow people to drive this stuff all the time. Because then you will just have people in HAVs at super long range bombing people to ISK farm, basically just like having sniper fights (Which are lame if its the whole conflict). Or you have a troll drop a uplink and then get in his HAV and just farm points from people spawning at his uplink. With my idea the balance is you have to lose the vehicle and you only get back what you lose so I didn't see a way to "farm" massive ISk with it that would break the standard ISK generation of other careers.
[Edit:] Or a troll in his DS parked in a safe high spot letting people spawn on him for free WP for massive ISK payouts. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.11 22:19:00 -
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Skihids wrote:[ The problems you cite can and should be solved in other ways than trying to limit ISK rewards. It hasn't stopped redline sniping, so it isn't likely to stop vehicular farming either.
The thing is however, you don't want this to happen
PROTIP: Start off training these couple vehicle skills and you will make lots and lots of money, just drive around in pubs in your HAV to fund your actual protosuit assault build.
I understand helping people afford tanks, but it shoudn't be the best/only way to make money in the game. Because if I have the option of 300k isk in my assault suit vs 1.4M in my HAV. You better believe I'll be sitting back redline sniping in my tank.
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