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Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:46:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Disposable Meatbag wrote:AR does not need a nerf. It somehow outcompetes every other weapon in multiple ways.
You're right, It out competes every other weapon, it has more RPMs than an HMG, more damage than a Charge Sniper Rifle, more range than a Sniper Rifle, more damage build up over time than an LR, more accuracy than an LR, a larger splash radius than an MD, a higher head-shot critical damage than a Scrambler Pistol, a larger clip size than an HMG, a faster reload speed than an SMG, and.......oh wait, you're saying it's none of those things?
Stop over-reacting, be thankful this isn't E3 where everyone and their mother used a Creodron Assault Rifle. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.07 18:49:00 -
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I'm going to point out that most HMGs out-range my AR(maxed sharpshooters vs my lvl 3 sharpshooter), with better RPMs the only thing my AR does better than an HMG is damage per shot, plus the HMG gets more accurate with time, while my AR gets less accurate with time.
So by the logic that the AR is OP, the HMG is doubly OP. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:02:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:Logi Bro wrote:I'm going to point out that most HMGs out-range my AR(maxed sharpshooters vs my lvl 3 sharpshooter), with better RPMs the only thing my AR does better than an HMG is damage per shot, plus the HMG gets more accurate with time, while my AR gets less accurate with time.
So by the logic that the AR is OP, the HMG is doubly OP. HMG definatly does not outrange ARs, and we usually die before the cone of fire can get reasonably small. Thats why I only use my HMG fit on small maps.
I definitely said HMGs with maxed sharpshooter out-range my lvl 3 sharpshooter AR. Plus, I'm going disagree with the cone of fire scenario you gave. I've messed around with HMGs quite a bit, and it does not take long to get the cone to minimum. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:11:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:slypie11 wrote:Logi Bro wrote:I'm going to point out that most HMGs out-range my AR(maxed sharpshooters vs my lvl 3 sharpshooter), with better RPMs the only thing my AR does better than an HMG is damage per shot, plus the HMG gets more accurate with time, while my AR gets less accurate with time.
So by the logic that the AR is OP, the HMG is doubly OP. HMG definatly does not outrange ARs, and we usually die before the cone of fire can get reasonably small. Thats why I only use my HMG fit on small maps. HMGs can outrange ARs with maxed sharpshooter, but with equal sharpshooter AR definately outranges HMG. Either way, maximum range isn't everything. Effective range is more important. Accuracy is also important at longer ranges. HMGs are less accurate when they start firing, ARs are more accurate when they start firing.
The range at which HMGs fire when sharpshooter is maxed will not be exceeded in our maps. With perhaps the exception of the large fields that were pasted in as filler space to make the maps bigger. But no sane heavy runs across those fields, so I will never have the scenario of out-ranging an HMG. MAYBE there is some scenario that a maxed sharpshooter AR could be useful against an HMG, but those scenarios rarely show outside of camping on top of high buildings.
So assuming that HMGs and ARs are equally effective in reasonable range scenarios, an HMG will destroy the competition. |
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