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Icy TIG3R Universal Allies Inc. 25	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:02:00 - [1] - Quote CCP you've said that you listen to the players. So please, hear us now. Bring back Skirmish 1.0.
Kane Fyea BetaMax. CRONOS. 135	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:03:00 - [2] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: CCP you've said that you listen to the players. So please, hear us now. Bring back Skirmish 1.0. Can't you just wait until Uprising. They said they'll have new gamemode variations. Also use the search engine before posting.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 146	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:04:00 - [3] - Quote Oh hell yes! Make it a separate game mode from current skirmish.
hershman001 Creepers Corp. Creepers Alliance 74	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:05:00 - [4] - Quote Signed
Ripcord19981 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 22	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:05:00 - [5] - Quote signed
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 141	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:05:00 - [6] - Quote I liked Skirm 1.0 because defenders were actually defending and attackers were actually attacking. Now they have the same objective.
ShwerShwerShwer The Marching Mercs 2	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:06:00 - [7] - Quote I joined dust after it was taken off so yeah I'd like to see what I missed. I'm in
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1153	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:08:00 - [8] - Quote The original map would be cool to have back too ...
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 141	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:09:00 - [9] - Quote ShwerShwerShwer wrote: I joined dust after it was taken off so yeah I'd like to see what I missed. I'm in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BghLOKCvk - Short clip, I know theres a longer better clip somewhere I just cant find it.
Spademan Hydra II-Omega 8	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:09:00 - [10] - Quote I do think I recall some sort of statement that basically said it was on the roadmap.

ShwerShwerShwer The Marching Mercs 2	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:17:00 - [11] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: ShwerShwerShwer wrote: I joined dust after it was taken off so yeah I'd like to see what I missed. I'm in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BghLOKCvk - Short clip, I know theres a longer better clip somewhere I just cant find it. Thanks, I've actually seen that footage before (part of why I got dust) but it was nice to watch it again. Guess what I should have said earlier was "I'd like to play what I missed"
Boomer Dues Mortis D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 49	Posted - 2013.04.05 00:00:00 - [12] - Quote Signed
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 412	Posted - 2013.04.05 00:14:00 - [13] - Quote Signed.
Brush Master HavoK Core 319	Posted - 2013.04.05 00:23:00 - [14] - Quote i know a lot that experienced this map think it would be great for conquest, myself included, if they can find a way to make it balanced. I think 1.0 also fits in with the defense vs offense idea. It would also make expanding into other areas like larger maps with more defense points, more installations, defenders setting up installations, etc. Hoping planertary will eventually be like that.
Icy TIG3R Universal Allies Inc. 34	Posted - 2013.04.05 00:39:00 - [15] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Icy TIG3R wrote: CCP you've said that you listen to the players. So please, hear us now. Bring back Skirmish 1.0. Can't you just wait until Uprising. They said they'll have new gamemode variations. Also use the search engine before posting. It's also funny because people were complaining about skirmish 1.0 because defending team almost always lost. Or maybe it was the offense that always lost. Not too sure anymore but pretty sure it was defending team. Please just stop. You've never played it. You haven't been here for months like I have. Don't tell me about Search. And I've seen what their gamemode "variations" are like. Just switching around objectives does not make it a KITTEN NEW GAME MODE!
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2384	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:20:00 - [16] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Icy TIG3R wrote: CCP you've said that you listen to the players. So please, hear us now. Bring back Skirmish 1.0. Can't you just wait until Uprising. They said they'll have new gamemode variations. Also use the search engine before posting. It's also funny because people were complaining about skirmish 1.0 because defending team almost always lost. Or maybe it was the offense that always lost. Not too sure anymore but pretty sure it was defending team. Please just stop. You've never played it. You haven't been here for months like I have. Don't tell me about Search. And I've seen what their gamemode "variations" are like. Just switching around objectives does not make it a KITTEN NEW GAME MODE! So what you're saying is that Skirmish 1.0 and Skirmish 2.0 are the same game mode, and that OMS has nothing to differentiate it from normal Ambush? I've been here long enough that you can't use that "I've been here for months" card on me. I know how much has changed from one build to the next. I'm not getting overly hyped for Uprising, but a bit of cautious optimism couldn't hurt.
mini rehak The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 23	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:20:00 - [17] - Quote signed
ReGnUM Public Relations Imperfects Public Relations 97	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:21:00 - [18] - Quote ReGnUM Approved
Kane Fyea BetaMax. CRONOS. 135	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:21:00 - [19] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Icy TIG3R wrote: CCP you've said that you listen to the players. So please, hear us now. Bring back Skirmish 1.0. Can't you just wait until Uprising. They said they'll have new gamemode variations. Also use the search engine before posting. It's also funny because people were complaining about skirmish 1.0 because defending team almost always lost. Or maybe it was the offense that always lost. Not too sure anymore but pretty sure it was defending team. Please just stop. You've never played it. You haven't been here for months like I have. Don't tell me about Search. And I've seen what their gamemode "variations" are like. Just switching around objectives does not make it a KITTEN NEW GAME MODE! I've been here since E3 build so stfu
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS 1NC 67	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:30:00 - [20] - Quote e3 was fun

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3327	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:31:00 - [21] - Quote 1_ You could have just bumped an existing thread on the subject. 2_ CCP Logic Loop said in IRC that it will return.
DUST Fiend Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2329	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:34:00 - [22] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Can't you just wait Did you seriously just suggest that a DUST 514 beta tester should be patient? Lmfao, yea, that'll happen
ShwerShwerShwer The Marching Mercs 2	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:36:00 - [23] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: 1_ You could have just bumped an existing thread on the subject. 2_ CCP Logic Loop said in IRC that it will return. Did he say it will return in Uprising or the usual Soon tm?
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 293	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:38:00 - [24] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: ShwerShwerShwer wrote: I joined dust after it was taken off so yeah I'd like to see what I missed. I'm in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BghLOKCvk - Short clip, I know theres a longer better clip somewhere I just cant find it. Man after watching that clip I forgot how great Skirmish 1.0 was. Also how great my sights were. Maybe this is what it will be like once you own a district. I shouldn't have watched that clip, I'm a little sad now. X:Dr.Debo Galaxy
Kane Fyea BetaMax. CRONOS. 136	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:39:00 - [25] - Quote ShwerShwerShwer wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: 1_ You could have just bumped an existing thread on the subject. 2_ CCP Logic Loop said in IRC that it will return. Did he say it will return in Uprising or the usual Soon tm? It'll probably be back in uprising since they already have the files made. Probably would just have to update some textures and scripts.
Icedslayer SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 47	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:42:00 - [26] - Quote Signed
Kane Fyea BetaMax. CRONOS. 136	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:56:00 - [27] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Can't you just wait Did you seriously just suggest that a DUST 514 beta tester should be patient? Lmfao, yea, that'll happen I know... It was worth a try though.
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD 314	Posted - 2013.04.05 02:04:00 - [28] - Quote Is this an addition to the other petitions to bring it back? We used to have one around all the time. This might be the longest we have gone with out one so a reappearance was due.
Icy TIG3R Universal Allies Inc. 37	Posted - 2013.04.05 02:54:00 - [29] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Icy TIG3R wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Icy TIG3R wrote: CCP you've said that you listen to the players. So please, hear us now. Bring back Skirmish 1.0. Can't you just wait until Uprising. They said they'll have new gamemode variations. Also use the search engine before posting. It's also funny because people were complaining about skirmish 1.0 because defending team almost always lost. Or maybe it was the offense that always lost. Not too sure anymore but pretty sure it was defending team. Please just stop. You've never played it. You haven't been here for months like I have. Don't tell me about Search. And I've seen what their gamemode "variations" are like. Just switching around objectives does not make it a KITTEN NEW GAME MODE! I've been here since E3 build so stfu lol E3 build. The days when all scrubs got in. I've been here since the Second build, and Replication.
Icy TIG3R Universal Allies Inc. 37	Posted - 2013.04.05 02:56:00 - [30] - Quote If you guys had played the REAL Skirmish 1.0, you would realize why half the player base afk's in the MCC all day.

Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 63	Posted - 2013.04.05 03:25:00 - [31] - Quote Petitions i liked the old skirmish but not enough to bring it back from the dead
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 146	Posted - 2013.04.05 03:57:00 - [32] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: If you guys had played the REAL Skirmish 1.0, you would realize why half the player base afk's in the MCC all day. It was the best. Miss it so much.
Deluxe Edition TeamPlayers 84	Posted - 2013.04.05 04:24:00 - [33] - Quote Signed!
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 258	Posted - 2013.04.05 04:34:00 - [34] - Quote Signed of course.
Kane Fyea BetaMax. CRONOS. 136	Posted - 2013.04.05 04:45:00 - [35] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Icy TIG3R wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Icy TIG3R wrote: CCP you've said that you listen to the players. So please, hear us now. Bring back Skirmish 1.0. Can't you just wait until Uprising. They said they'll have new gamemode variations. Also use the search engine before posting. It's also funny because people were complaining about skirmish 1.0 because defending team almost always lost. Or maybe it was the offense that always lost. Not too sure anymore but pretty sure it was defending team. Please just stop. You've never played it. You haven't been here for months like I have. Don't tell me about Search. And I've seen what their gamemode "variations" are like. Just switching around objectives does not make it a KITTEN NEW GAME MODE! I've been here since E3 build so stfu lol E3 build. The days when all scrubs got in. I've been here since the Second build, and Replication. Aww you feel special that you've been playing longer then me. How cute. Really who gives a flying fk.
InsidiousN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 10	Posted - 2013.04.05 04:48:00 - [36] - Quote Agreed, Skirmish 1.0 was the BEST game mode. I don't understand why CCP would so obviously shoot themselves in the foot. It would be nice if a DEV could explain to us why they removed the game mode that was the most fun, as well as made the most sense for attacking and defending planets. Please CCP explain.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 466	Posted - 2013.04.05 04:52:00 - [37] - Quote CCP - clear proof that gameplay trumps balance. That map told a story. Learn. Signed.
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 81	Posted - 2013.04.05 04:57:00 - [38] - Quote I wasn't in the closed beta, but from what I've heard about it, I've always thought the old skirmish would make more sense for PC anyway because there were actually attackers and defenders, not just two attackers (which doesn't really make sense for the side that owns the district). In any case, I'd like to see it come back, it sounds a lot better than what we currently have.
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 448	Posted - 2013.04.05 05:18:00 - [39] - Quote skirmish 1.0 ran like crap. if it runs well sure, if it runs like a 1 legged fat man again no.
StarBurst Stream OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2013.04.05 05:42:00 - [40] - Quote signed

Aeon Amadi WarRavens 1138	Posted - 2013.04.05 06:30:00 - [41] - Quote /signed. Been wanting this for a while. CCP Cmdr_Wang stated that it was a "maybe".
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 10	Posted - 2013.04.05 07:54:00 - [42] - Quote +1'd. Though hopefully it'll be in uprising.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1269	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:02:00 - [43] - Quote /signed even though i'm sure "new game modes" will just be PC and revamped FW. And wait, i'll sign with all my alts. Worth it.
Cazaderon What The French CRONOS. 1	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:02:00 - [44] - Quote /signed
Test Cazaderon Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:02:00 - [45] - Quote /signed
GR1NCH Destruction Initiative Enterprise 201	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:02:00 - [46] - Quote signed
The Loathing The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 30	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:07:00 - [47] - Quote /signed. Don't remove current skirmish, just bring back 1.0 and re-badge with a new title. While we are at it, it would be flippin' awesome if we saw a Capture The Flag variant and a Militia Only variant in the next build!
dust badger BetaMax. CRONOS. 295	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:16:00 - [48] - Quote signed
lucy vodka Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:17:00 - [49] - Quote /Signed cant like this thread enough
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 406	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:33:00 - [50] - Quote Was removed with a shockingly bad excuse of balance. To which the correct response would have been to balance the map but as what became established as normal the nuked the idea and replaced it with something noone liked from inception. Dust is the only game where I feel it has gone backwards as development progressed. Sure the Ie and crashes have stopped but that just having somthing run. The gameplay of dust has declined dramaticy since the trials.

Gilbatron Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda 84	Posted - 2013.04.05 09:10:00 - [51] - Quote i want my old remote explosives back :(
Calgoth Reborn United Front LLC 223	Posted - 2013.04.05 09:18:00 - [52] - Quote I wouldn't mind the old skirmish as long as they upped the health of the first stage null cannon's 1 tank could just rip them apart or even just swarms could kill them. It was nice preventing the enemy team from hacking those 2 if they didn't bring tank's in and never got to the second stage
Brush Master HavoK Core 319	Posted - 2013.04.05 12:27:00 - [53] - Quote Calgoth Reborn wrote: I wouldn't mind the old skirmish as long as they upped the health of the first stage null cannon's 1 tank could just rip them apart or even just swarms could kill them. It was nice preventing the enemy team from hacking those 2 if they didn't bring tank's in and never got to the second stage Definitely a big increase in health. They could make them hack points that could be destroyable but take a lot of hits to destroy. The attackers have to keep the points hacked long enough or have a couple tanks working on it to destroy it for their MCC to get to the second line of defense.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 441	Posted - 2013.04.05 13:02:00 - [54] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Was removed with a shockingly bad excuse of balance. To which the correct response would have been to balance the map but as what became established as normal the nuked the idea and replaced it with something noone liked from inception. Dust is the only game where I feel it has gone backwards as development progressed. Sure the Ie and crashes have stopped but that just having somthing run. The gameplay of dust has declined dramaticy since the trials. This.^ And @ icy tiger, better late than never I suppose. Guess my boredom threshold is lower than yours. And whoever said it, yes you should use the search function.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1271	Posted - 2013.04.05 13:17:00 - [55] - Quote Calgoth Reborn wrote: I wouldn't mind the old skirmish as long as they upped the health of the first stage null cannon's 1 tank could just rip them apart or even just swarms could kill them. It was nice preventing the enemy team from hacking those 2 if they didn't bring tank's in and never got to the second stage I wouldnt say raise health. I'd say make them undestructible and change mecanics so both defense relay have to be hacked at the same time. (not at the same time, but be both owned by the attackers) Add a nice visual effect like a shield barrier round the outpost to give lore and explain why those defense relay actually matter. THIS would promote actual teamplay and give a feeling of conquest. Add to that buffing A LOT health of turrets and you would get an actually very strategic game with infantry moving to take assets allowing tanks to move into position and hold the ground, people covering one objective while others try to conquer it. etc.. Skirmish 2.0 is a joke. a game mode from the 90s.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 407	Posted - 2013.04.05 13:43:00 - [56] - Quote Tbh to this day we never got a reason on why it was removed it was only implied that their was A balance issue which during my experience I never found. And they never proabaly realised that the skilled players just made sure they were defending all the time. But to notice that they would have to been paying attention to the player base at the time
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ 0	Posted - 2013.04.05 13:48:00 - [57] - Quote +1
Icy TIG3R Universal Allies Inc. 51	Posted - 2013.04.05 20:22:00 - [58] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Tbh to this day we never got a reason on why it was removed it was only implied that their was A balance issue which during my experience I never found. And they never proabaly realised that the skilled players just made sure they were defending all the time. But to notice that they would have to been paying attention to the player base at the time It was a tiny balance issue that could've been solved in numerous ways but wasn't. What we have now is Domination, running in circles for objectives, and redlines. What we had before were epic battles. Even though the game ran pretty bad at the time and there were disgustingly bad spawn mechanics, I still loved Skirmish 1.0 and Craterlake, and it's the only reason I played.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 414	Posted - 2013.04.05 20:31:00 - [59] - Quote signed. caveat: don't get rid of skirmish 2.0 just add back in skirmish 1.0 for more variety...
Logi Bro Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1046	Posted - 2013.04.05 20:32:00 - [60] - Quote They aren't going to make any changes till Uprising, so we'll all have to wait.

steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 408	Posted - 2013.04.05 20:44:00 - [61] - Quote i know, i just wanted to take part in another. reminding CCP of a dropping the ball thread ::P
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 371	Posted - 2013.04.05 20:57:00 - [62] - Quote Very much signed.
LogiBra IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2013.04.05 20:58:00 - [63] - Quote Shut up and take my like!
Logi Bro Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1047	Posted - 2013.04.05 21:28:00 - [64] - Quote LogiBra wrote: Shut up and take my like! Adding this guy to my list of people that I hate.....
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 408	Posted - 2013.04.05 21:34:00 - [65] - Quote comeon the impswarm guys aren't that bad :P :P
Logi Bro Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1047	Posted - 2013.04.05 21:35:00 - [66] - Quote He/she ranks no higher in my book than Logie Man or Logi Bro Jo. I must exterminate them all before they breed!
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 468	Posted - 2013.04.06 01:39:00 - [67] - Quote Calgoth Reborn wrote: I wouldn't mind the old skirmish as long as they upped the health of the first stage null cannon's 1 tank could just rip them apart or even just swarms could kill them. It was nice preventing the enemy team from hacking those 2 if they didn't bring tank's in and never got to the second stage I'm thinking that life would be a lot harder for those tanks today.
Icy TIG3R Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2013.04.06 03:40:00 - [68] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Calgoth Reborn wrote: I wouldn't mind the old skirmish as long as they upped the health of the first stage null cannon's 1 tank could just rip them apart or even just swarms could kill them. It was nice preventing the enemy team from hacking those 2 if they didn't bring tank's in and never got to the second stage I'm thinking that life would be a lot harder for those tanks today. I think that they should just remove damage, instead make 3 points instead of 2 to compensate for more players.
Cody Sietz The Tritan Industries 69	Posted - 2013.04.06 03:47:00 - [69] - Quote I can get behind this.
Sev Alcatraz The Tritan Industries 203	Posted - 2013.04.06 04:48:00 - [70] - Quote sratches name down Indeed

ALM1GHTY STATIUS Imperfects Negative-Feedback 288	Posted - 2013.04.06 07:36:00 - [71] - Quote Thread supported by ALM1GHTY
SGT NOVA STAR T3RROR SQUAD 17	Posted - 2013.04.06 09:08:00 - [72] - Quote signed
SCAT mania Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 119	Posted - 2013.04.06 09:14:00 - [73] - Quote signed
Faquira Bleuetta Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 6	Posted - 2013.04.06 12:21:00 - [74] - Quote /signed
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 67	Posted - 2013.04.06 12:26:00 - [75] - Quote The Robot Devil
Icy TIG3R Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2013.04.06 14:23:00 - [76] - Quote Thank you people, keep the support coming. This is what we are missing out: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cHUo9UPiq8A/T4Dh9SZ2cgI/AAAAAAAAAUs/974DrF3vpGY/s640/Grenade+launcher+mass+driver.png
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 418	Posted - 2013.04.09 19:36:00 - [77] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: They aren't going to make any changes till Uprising, so we'll all have to wait. Maybe these changes will be in uprising
Luke Vetri D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 60	Posted - 2013.04.09 19:48:00 - [78] - Quote signed although I'm sure they are in uprising
Icy TIG3R Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 75	Posted - 2013.04.09 20:02:00 - [79] - Quote Luke Vetri wrote: signed although I'm sure they are in uprising I doubt it, based on earlier posts and IRC, they haven't fully decided to bring it back.


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