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DaOpa Magi Static Corp 2	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:19:00 - [1] - Quote Disable game mode skirmish, fix AFK Pandemic then Re-enable. Also get your Database guy to run a script seeing which characters abused this and during the upcoming respec remove all that SP/Isk gained. Thanks, your awesome!
Chris F2112 187. 37	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:20:00 - [2] - Quote This is one of the worst ideas I've heard on these forums.
DUST Fiend Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2307	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:21:00 - [3] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: This is one of the worst ideas I've heard on these forums. Disabling skirmish, yes. Retroactively removing SP gained from AFK? I've been saying that for a while. It's probably not technically possible, but if it was; omfg I would laugh so god damn hard.
ReGnUM Public Relations Imperfects Public Relations 95	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:23:00 - [4] - Quote DaOpa Magi wrote: Disable game mode skirmish, fix AFK Pandemic then Re-enable. Also get your Database guy to run a script seeing which characters abused this and during the upcoming respec remove all that SP/Isk gained. Thanks, your awesome! Is this a Declaration of War on the Imperfects
DaOpa Magi Static Corp 2	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:23:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: This is one of the worst ideas I've heard on these forums. Disabling skirmish, yes. Retroactively removing SP gained from AFK? I've been saying that for a while. It's probably not technically possible, but if it was; omfg I would laugh so god damn hard. I assume all match results are recorded in the database, its not that hard to make a script to see a player who's been in match after match, after match with 0/0.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 90	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:25:00 - [6] - Quote DaOpa Magi wrote: I assume all match results are recorded in the database, its not that hard to make a script to see a player who's been in match after match, after match with 0/0. After working for years for a big corporation, alot less gets tracked then people assume. I doubt there is anything in the system that has or can track this. -1 Thread +1 Bacon
Chris F2112 187. 37	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:28:00 - [7] - Quote DaOpa Magi wrote: [quote=DUST Fiend]I assume all match results are recorded in the database, its not that hard to make a script to see a player who's been in match after match, after match with 0/0. You can't make the assumption that they were AFK during that time. Dropship pilots strive for that 0/0 mark. Pure medics might lose several games of SP as well. It would be darn funny if all that AFKing went for nothing, but it's not going to happen.
Sada Mokmo DUST University Ivy League 7	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:29:00 - [8] - Quote The only consistent AFKers i've seen are the Pink Fluffies... As soon as you see only one on your team in a public skirmish, you always know where to find him. MCC
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 368	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:30:00 - [9] - Quote Or give back Skirmish 1.0 and people will actually want to play skirmish.
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 163	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:35:00 - [10] - Quote Please CCP punish the AFK'ers in this way, would be epic beyond measure

Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 967	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:39:00 - [11] - Quote or instead divert that staff to fixing disconnection issues so I DONT HAVE TO AFK FARM POINTS JUST TO KEEP UP because its too laggy to play.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 756	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:39:00 - [12] - Quote KryptixX wrote: Or give back Skirmish 1.0 and people will actually want to play skirmish. And this would stop the AFKers how exactly? I'd bet we'll still have AFKers in Uprising unless CCP does something about it.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 967	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:40:00 - [13] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: KryptixX wrote: Or give back Skirmish 1.0 and people will actually want to play skirmish. And this would stop the AFKers how exactly? I'd bet we'll still have AFKers in Uprising unless CCP does something about it. forced spawn on the ground...
Skihids The Tritan Industries 1135	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:40:00 - [14] - Quote CCP stated in an old Fanfest video that they log enough data that they can replay a match from any perspective, so they have everything they need to check for AFK mercs. It woud be trivial to write a script to identify each merc that spent the majority of his time in the MCC.
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 267	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:40:00 - [15] - Quote Sada Mokmo wrote: The only consistent AFKers i've seen are the Pink Fluffies... As soon as you see only one on your team in a public skirmish, you always know where to find him. MCC That's like saying: The only time I ever lose a game is when there's a Dust Univ squad on my team. When you only see one of them you know you have a fighting chance
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 756	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:42:00 - [16] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: KryptixX wrote: Or give back Skirmish 1.0 and people will actually want to play skirmish. And this would stop the AFKers how exactly? I'd bet we'll still have AFKers in Uprising unless CCP does something about it. forced spawn on the ground... Railgun turrets FTW! Or is the red-line also gone? Paran Tadec wrote: HAVE TO AFK FARM POINTS JUST TO KEEP UP Have to? Noooo, you want to
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 111	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:48:00 - [17] - Quote Jaiden Longshot wrote: Sada Mokmo wrote: The only consistent AFKers i've seen are the Pink Fluffies... As soon as you see only one on your team in a public skirmish, you always know where to find him. MCC That's like saying: The only time I ever lose a game is when there's a Dust Univ squad on my team. When you only see one of them you know you have a fighting chance LMFAO! That is just mean, yet so true!
Kitten Commander Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 133	Posted - 2013.04.04 17:56:00 - [18] - Quote Can we also ask them to run a script that finds out who the redline snipers are and puts a giant gaping VJ on their clones head so that we can identify them pre-match? Then, they could run a script and, for all of the horribad blueberries out there, they can put shoulder straps on the front of their suits so that it will be easier to backpack them. Instead of complaining about 1-2 AFK farmers (news flash: if its that big of an issue, the other team probably has them too), how about trying to understand why you are losing with only being a guy or two down. I think it should be a requirement to show a screenshot of the match for every AFK QQ'er post to prove that the match was so close that one person would have made the difference.
DaOpa Magi Static Corp 3	Posted - 2013.04.04 18:00:00 - [19] - Quote Kitten Commander wrote: Can we also ask them to run a script that finds out who the redline snipers are and puts a giant gaping VJ on their clones head so that we can identify them pre-match? Then, they could run a script and, for all of the horribad blueberries out there, they can put shoulder straps on the front of their suits so that it will be easier to backpack them. Instead of complaining about 1-2 AFK farmers (news flash: if its that big of an issue, the other team probably has them too), how about trying to understand why you are losing with only being a guy or two down. I think it should be a requirement to show a screenshot of the match for every AFK QQ'er post to prove that the match was so close that one person would have made the difference. My suggestion is for the overall good of Dust 514. If they dont address this issue and keep it as is .. this is a RMT'ers Dream. Try to think in different angles ...
slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 531	Posted - 2013.04.04 18:01:00 - [20] - Quote Sada Mokmo wrote: The only consistent AFKers i've seen are the Pink Fluffies... As soon as you see only one on your team in a public skirmish, you always know where to find him. MCC Sounds to me like you just want us to carry you.... I only AFK farm because I still have hope for this game. Next build is going to make or break it for me. If CCP doesn't provide I will probably move on. World of Tanks is still allot of fun.

Veritas Vitae Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 108	Posted - 2013.04.04 18:43:00 - [21] - Quote Sada Mokmo wrote: The only consistent AFKers i've seen are the Pink Fluffies... As soon as you see only one on your team in a public skirmish, you always know where to find him. MCC I resemble that statement. Wait, actually, no I don't. I am pretty much incapable of AFKing since I have the urge to go out and earn my SP every fight. I do know some of our guys do this to hit cap, but I also consistently see members of other corps doing it. Basically, I look for solo players of corps that normally run in squads; if I see them solo I assume a 50/50 chance they will be AFK farming. But ultimately, IDGAF. It's just pubs.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 912	Posted - 2013.04.04 18:45:00 - [22] - Quote DaOpa Magi wrote: Disable game mode skirmish, fix AFK Pandemic then Re-enable. Also get your Database guy to run a script seeing which characters abused this and during the upcoming respec remove all that SP/Isk gained. Thanks, your awesome! Someone checked into butthurt central! Choo Choo !
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T 9	Posted - 2013.04.04 18:49:00 - [23] - Quote My suggestion. They need to code in Idle detection, Idle for X amount of time, game kicks you back to your room with the shiny undersized bed
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 475	Posted - 2013.04.04 18:50:00 - [24] - Quote slap26 wrote: Sounds to me like you just want us to carry you.... I only AFK farm because I still have hope for this game. Next build is going to make or break it for me. If CCP doesn't provide I will probably move on. World of Tanks is still allot of fun. half the game is just hope for the game. so far CCP has delivered very little. and hope is dwindling fast. what's really bad is i can play for 2 minutes then afk for the rest of the match and still end up better than 50% of the team. maybe if their wasn't of so much grind to get the weekely allotment of SP people would probably find it more enjoyable, but matchmaking is dull, gun play is unbearable, and i just got stuck on terrain for the the 500th time.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 401	Posted - 2013.04.04 18:52:00 - [25] - Quote I laugh at the people who whine about AFKers.
Kitten Commander Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 135	Posted - 2013.04.04 20:10:00 - [26] - Quote Necrodermis wrote: slap26 wrote: Sounds to me like you just want us to carry you.... I only AFK farm because I still have hope for this game. Next build is going to make or break it for me. If CCP doesn't provide I will probably move on. World of Tanks is still allot of fun. half the game is just hope for the game. so far CCP has delivered very little. and hope is dwindling fast. what's really bad is i can play for 2 minutes then afk for the rest of the match and still end up better than 50% of the team. maybe if their wasn't of so much grind to get the weekely allotment of SP people would probably find it more enjoyable, but matchmaking is dull, gun play is unbearable, and i just got stuck on terrain for the the 500th time. Matchmaking isnt dull, its horrible. Newberries who have no idea what they are doing shouldnt be grouped up with vets. All that does is make the game frustrating for both sides.
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES 103	Posted - 2013.04.04 20:20:00 - [27] - Quote DaOpa Magi wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Chris F2112 wrote: This is one of the worst ideas I've heard on these forums. Disabling skirmish, yes. Retroactively removing SP gained from AFK? I've been saying that for a while. It's probably not technically possible, but if it was; omfg I would laugh so god damn hard. I assume all match results are recorded in the database, its not that hard to make a script to see a player who's been in match after match, after match with 0/0. I go 0/0 when I join a game... That ends one second later... Sometimes, I don't get the overview map, all I'm greeted with is a Victory or Defeat screen. So what about those people?
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 160	Posted - 2013.04.04 20:30:00 - [28] - Quote You do this and every tank driver in skirmish will invade ambush. then you'll have more to complain about. :)
DaOpa Magi Static Corp 3	Posted - 2013.04.04 21:06:00 - [29] - Quote Quote: I go 0/0 when I join a game... That ends one second later... Sometimes, I don't get the overview map, all I'm greeted with is a Victory or Defeat screen. So what about those people? You wont get any SP during this type of a event, nor do your spawn into the MCC. This wouldnt factor into scripting for AFK Abuse.....
DaOpa Magi Static Corp 3	Posted - 2013.04.04 21:07:00 - [30] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: DaOpa Magi wrote: Disable game mode skirmish, fix AFK Pandemic then Re-enable. Also get your Database guy to run a script seeing which characters abused this and during the upcoming respec remove all that SP/Isk gained. Thanks, your awesome! Someone checked into butthurt central! Choo Choo ! I'm not butthurt, nor do i spend much time on these Forum games you seem to enjoy .... This is serious business ...

Kitten Commander Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 137	Posted - 2013.04.04 21:14:00 - [31] - Quote DaOpa Magi wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: DaOpa Magi wrote: Disable game mode skirmish, fix AFK Pandemic then Re-enable. Also get your Database guy to run a script seeing which characters abused this and during the upcoming respec remove all that SP/Isk gained. Thanks, your awesome! Someone checked into butthurt central! Choo Choo ! I'm not butthurt, nor do i spend much time on these Forum games you seem to enjoy .... This is serious business ... Serious Thread is Serious
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2381	Posted - 2013.04.04 22:40:00 - [32] - Quote I think the best solution I've heard is still the "make MCC part of the redzone" option. If you spawn inside the MCC, you have 20 seconds to jump.
Yani Nabari One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 7	Posted - 2013.04.04 22:46:00 - [33] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I think the best solution I've heard is still the "make MCC part of the redzone" option. If you spawn inside the MCC, you have 20 seconds to jump. Assuming the MCC doesn't eventually become something more than just a useless platform with an awesome view.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2384	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:24:00 - [34] - Quote Yani Nabari wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I think the best solution I've heard is still the "make MCC part of the redzone" option. If you spawn inside the MCC, you have 20 seconds to jump. Assuming the MCC doesn't eventually become something more than just a useless platform with an awesome view. At which case there will be a designated pilot/commander in the MCC who won't be in the normal spawn area, and will therefore not be subject to the redline rule.
Garrett Whetshaft Hateful Munitions 40	Posted - 2013.04.05 00:53:00 - [35] - Quote DaOpa Magi wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: DaOpa Magi wrote: Disable game mode skirmish, fix AFK Pandemic then Re-enable. Also get your Database guy to run a script seeing which characters abused this and during the upcoming respec remove all that SP/Isk gained. Thanks, your awesome! Someone checked into butthurt central! Choo Choo ! I'm not butthurt, nor do i spend much time on these Forum games you seem to enjoy .... This is serious business ... Remember Auto-Frag for campers? I think it was set to 5 seconds back in 1996.... but then Quake was a simple game ;) maybe 5 seconds is too harsh for Dust but a penalty for lack of movement can be beaten by just nudging every now and then. Also having a guy in the MCC watching the map and barking orders I imagine could work well as a strategy. I agree its a problem as you could watch a few movies AFK skirmish and rack up a lot of SP and ISK, with no Loss at all. I have no idea how you would effectively combat it though. Real time experience makes you better so if someone boosts in this way too much they won't get any 'better' at playing the game. Maybe change the MCC to force people out after a time, rather than killing them? The forcefield could flicker and suck you out? :)
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1033	Posted - 2013.04.05 01:09:00 - [36] - Quote Think there's bigger problems in the game than AFK'ers. - First you need to look at WHY people AFK. - Why hasn't CCP done anything yet - Why do people care so much about others being AFK? MANY people who AFK atm are beta vets trying to hold on and wait for the next build...which btw, seems to be a make or break deal for many.


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