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BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:37:00 -
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We need to adjust tank vs av |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
159
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:39:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:We need to adjust tank vs av why? i think it's balanced to an extent a few tweaks here and there but other than tht it's pretty good. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1142
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:40:00 -
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Open wants to an I win button. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
417
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:47:00 -
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I hope you don't get pub stomped by tanks. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:50:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Open wants to an I win button. You want swarms(militia swarms hit 1500 to armor btw) that can do 180 degree turns in 1 second,pekk a boom ability to lock on, requires no skillpoint (militia ones), able to spam av nade that deal 2K damage and magically find its way to my tank while you are sipping your coffee behind cover. Btw those AV nades do not even require you to branch. You can get them while you upgrade your Anti-personal nades which is dumb. Is that what you want? |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:52:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I hope you don't get pub stomped by tanks. Try to pubstomp me with blaster tanks! |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
790
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:53:00 -
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Dude AV is fine....don't go there
I literally have minimal AV skills and still take out tanks like a boss
You must be doing it wrong Bro! |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
404
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:53:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Open wants to an I win button. You want swarms(militia swarms hit 1500 to armor btw) that can do 180 degree turns in 1 second,pekk a boom ability to lock on, requires no skillpoint (militia ones), able to spam av nade that deal 2K damage and magically find its way to my tank while you are sipping your coffee behind cover. Btw those AV nades do not even require you to branch. You can get them while you upgrade your Anti-personal nades which is dumb. Is that what you want? with any luck, AV and AP nades will be separate skills in next build |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
81
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:00:00 -
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I think the OPs title describes the situation perfectly. You should definately be infantry.
I played with some people the other day, can't remember who they were, maybe Subreddit or Test and they had some tanks on the field. They lasted the whole game and dished out some great firepower, using them as artillery more then close in support. Having reppers around fixing the tank was also nice. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:02:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:I think the OPs title describes the situation perfectly. You should definately be infantry.
I played with some people the other day, can't remember who they were, maybe Subreddit or Test and they had some tanks on the field. They lasted the whole game and dished out some great firepower, using them as artillery more then close in support. Having reppers around fixing the tank was also nice. It is funny that someone who has not seen me on battlefield once came to the conclusion that I am doing it wrong. |
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Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
81
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:07:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote: It is funny that someone who has not seen me on battlefield once came to the conclusion that I am doing it wrong.
I'm not a tanker myself, I just see what I see from tanker people I hang around, and when I play multiple games with people and their tank lives all game and they dish out piles of kills and force enemies to load up AV instead of normal weapons. it seems good to me. They were having fun
However you are coming here complaining you are going to switch infantry. That shows me you are not having fun. So yes, you are doing it wrong. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
1022
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:09:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Open wants to an I win button. You want swarms(militia swarms hit 1500 to armor btw) that can do 180 degree turns in 1 second,pekk a boom ability to lock on, requires no skillpoint (militia ones), able to spam av nade that deal 2K damage and magically find its way to my tank while you are sipping your coffee behind cover. Btw those AV nades do not even require you to branch. You can get them while you upgrade your Anti-personal nades which is dumb. Is that what you want? Its not magic its magnets, well techically i suppose it would be some kind of electromagnet. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
1022
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:09:00 -
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stupid double post. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
404
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:09:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Dude AV is fine....don't go there
I literally have minimal AV skills and still take out tanks like a boss
You must be doing it wrong Bro!
and that is why AV is OP. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
406
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:10:00 -
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You're doing it wrong. I've seen Gunnlogi blaster-fit survive entire matches because they knew when to run away and when not to. How do I know this? Hell, I've thrown my AV nades at it and seen only a small sliver of its shield go before I was blasted into oblivion.
That was a single AV nade. It took that long (me throwing, it hitting) for it to spot me, turn its turret, and kill me.
Tanks are not meant to lone wolf. You're meant to support infantry, and infantry is supposed to support you. If there's AV nearby, the best thing to take it out is infantry. If there's infantry nearby, the best thing available to take it out is you. Got it? |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:10:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:BOZ MR wrote: It is funny that someone who has not seen me on battlefield once came to the conclusion that I am doing it wrong. I'm not a tanker myself, I just see what I see from tanker people I hang around, and when I play multiple games with people and their tank lives all game and they dish out piles of kills and force enemies to load up AV instead of normal weapons. it seems good to me. They were having fun However you are coming here complaining you are going to switch infantry. That shows me you are not having fun. So yes, you are doing it wrong. Look I can make a surya live more than ten games ok? Im just hating the fact that people can 1V1 a proto tank BEHIND COVER. See you on the battlefield. Prefarably enemy side. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:12:00 -
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gbghg wrote:BOZ MR wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Open wants to an I win button. You want swarms(militia swarms hit 1500 to armor btw) that can do 180 degree turns in 1 second,pekk a boom ability to lock on, requires no skillpoint (militia ones), able to spam av nade that deal 2K damage and magically find its way to my tank while you are sipping your coffee behind cover. Btw those AV nades do not even require you to branch. You can get them while you upgrade your Anti-personal nades which is dumb. Is that what you want? Its not magic its magnets, well techically i suppose it would be some kind of electromagnet. Than why those magnets dont stick to infantry or friendly vehicles? |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
82
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:12:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:[ Look I can make a surya live more than ten games ok? Im just hating the fact that people can 1V1 a proto tank BEHIND COVER. See you on the battlefield. Prefarably enemy side.
If you can survive 10 games, what are you complaining for? Get out. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:13:00 -
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Laheon wrote:You're doing it wrong. I've seen Gunnlogi blaster-fit survive entire matches because they knew when to run away and when not to. How do I know this? Hell, I've thrown my AV nades at it and seen only a small sliver of its shield go before I was blasted into oblivion.
That was a single AV nade. It took that long (me throwing, it hitting) for it to spot me, turn its turret, and kill me.
Tanks are not meant to lone wolf. You're meant to support infantry, and infantry is supposed to support you. If there's AV nearby, the best thing to take it out is infantry. If there's infantry nearby, the best thing available to take it out is you. Got it? You use AV nades to shield tank thats why. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:14:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:BOZ MR wrote:[ Look I can make a surya live more than ten games ok? Im just hating the fact that people can 1V1 a proto tank BEHIND COVER. See you on the battlefield. Prefarably enemy side. If you can survive 10 games, what are you complaining for? Get out. I wrote down what I am complaining. Are you BLIND? |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
1022
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:15:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:BOZ MR wrote: It is funny that someone who has not seen me on battlefield once came to the conclusion that I am doing it wrong. I'm not a tanker myself, I just see what I see from tanker people I hang around, and when I play multiple games with people and their tank lives all game and they dish out piles of kills and force enemies to load up AV instead of normal weapons. it seems good to me. They were having fun However you are coming here complaining you are going to switch infantry. That shows me you are not having fun. So yes, you are doing it wrong. Look I can make a surya live more than ten games ok? Im just hating the fact that people can 1V1 a proto tank BEHIND COVER. See you on the battlefield. Prefarably enemy side. so an enemy you can't damage or kill is killing you? welcome to dropship piloting 101, the correct course of action in this scenario is 1) activate modules 2)get the hell out of the danger zone 3)hide until your shields/Armour regens |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
406
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:15:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Look I can make a surya live more than ten games ok? Im just hating the fact that people can 1V1 a proto tank BEHIND COVER. See you on the battlefield. Prefarably enemy side.
Surely if they're behind cover throwing AV nades at you... You move?
If they're using a swarm launcher, then again, move so they can't see you. Surefire way of *not* taking damage - don't let them see you.
Forge gunner's even easier - they're very slow, and you can take them out before they get back into cover. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
1022
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:18:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:gbghg wrote:BOZ MR wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Open wants to an I win button. You want swarms(militia swarms hit 1500 to armor btw) that can do 180 degree turns in 1 second,pekk a boom ability to lock on, requires no skillpoint (militia ones), able to spam av nade that deal 2K damage and magically find its way to my tank while you are sipping your coffee behind cover. Btw those AV nades do not even require you to branch. You can get them while you upgrade your Anti-personal nades which is dumb. Is that what you want? Its not magic its magnets, well techically i suppose it would be some kind of electromagnet. Than why those magnets dont stick to infantry or friendly vehicles? I would assume some kind of IFF is inherent in their design to stop them flying into friendlys, as for why they don't target suits? I dunno maybe targets need to give off a certain signature to be targeted, i'm sure one of our more lore knowledgeable mercs will share it with us at some point. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:19:00 -
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gbghg wrote:BOZ MR wrote:gbghg wrote:BOZ MR wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Open wants to an I win button. You want swarms(militia swarms hit 1500 to armor btw) that can do 180 degree turns in 1 second,pekk a boom ability to lock on, requires no skillpoint (militia ones), able to spam av nade that deal 2K damage and magically find its way to my tank while you are sipping your coffee behind cover. Btw those AV nades do not even require you to branch. You can get them while you upgrade your Anti-personal nades which is dumb. Is that what you want? Its not magic its magnets, well techically i suppose it would be some kind of electromagnet. Than why those magnets dont stick to infantry or friendly vehicles? I would assume some kind of IFF is inherent in their design to stop them flying into friendlys, as for why they don't target suits? I dunno maybe targets need to give off a certain signature to be targeted, i'm sure one of our more lore knowledgeable mercs will share it with us at some point. Stop bullsh1tt1ng. Magnet is a magnet you can not decide what it is going to stick. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
365
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:25:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:We need to adjust tank vs av
Tanks are fine, if anything they could use a nerf to their speed. Little buggers are too fast and can hide faster than I can destroy them!
But yeah, players need teamwork and dedicated AV to take out tanks, otherwise tanks > all.
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
406
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:25:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Stop bullsh1tt1ng.
Stop whining. Seriously, if you ever came on the forums AT ALL, you'd know how many times this thread comes up. "AV is OP, nerf it" or "Tanks are UP" or SOMETHING along those lines.
For kitten's sake, I don't care if you think your personal opinion matters more than any of ours, because that's just narcissism and being self-absorbed, but the VERY LEAST you could do is use the kittening search engine at the TOP OF THE KITTENING PAGE to search for this exact thread which has been posted at least fifteen times in the last two weeks.
Stop being such a prat and use your own initiative once in a while.
Also, this thread, IF SERIOUS, belongs in a different subforum. Should go in feedback and requests, not general discussion. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:35:00 -
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Laheon wrote:BOZ MR wrote:Stop bullsh1tt1ng. Stop whining. Seriously, if you ever came on the forums AT ALL, you'd know how many times this thread comes up. "AV is OP, nerf it" or "Tanks are UP" or SOMETHING along those lines. For kitten's sake, I don't care if you think your personal opinion matters more than any of ours, because that's just narcissism and being self-absorbed, but the VERY LEAST you could do is use the kittening search engine at the TOP OF THE KITTENING PAGE to search for this exact thread which has been posted at least fifteen times in the last two weeks. Stop being such a prat and use your own initiative once in a while. Also, this thread, IF SERIOUS, belongs in a different subforum. Should go in feedback and requests, not general discussion. I said that because he was talking about magnets. |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
160
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:37:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Laheon wrote:BOZ MR wrote:Stop bullsh1tt1ng. Stop whining. Seriously, if you ever came on the forums AT ALL, you'd know how many times this thread comes up. "AV is OP, nerf it" or "Tanks are UP" or SOMETHING along those lines. For kitten's sake, I don't care if you think your personal opinion matters more than any of ours, because that's just narcissism and being self-absorbed, but the VERY LEAST you could do is use the kittening search engine at the TOP OF THE KITTENING PAGE to search for this exact thread which has been posted at least fifteen times in the last two weeks. Stop being such a prat and use your own initiative once in a while. Also, this thread, IF SERIOUS, belongs in a different subforum. Should go in feedback and requests, not general discussion. I said that because he was talking about magnets. have you thought tht tanks are made of different materials. maybe ones tht are very magnetic and dropsuits aren't. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
83
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:42:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote: have you thought tht tanks are made of different materials. maybe ones tht are very magnetic and dropsuits aren't.
I'm pretty sure everything in New Eden is made of Bacon, your point is invalidated. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
1022
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:43:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote: Stop bullsh1tt1ng. Magnet is a magnet you can not decide what it is going to stick.
lets think now, lets say its an electromagnet, for it to start moving towards something it needs a current. you have an IFF recievier which listens out for any friendly vehicle tags, if there's a friendly vehicle close to the grenade it doesn't activate. give the IFF control of the current so it allows current to flow and the magnet to activate if it detects an appropriate mass for a vehicle with no tag, and if friendly vehicles are closer it doesn't activate. I'm making crap up here, but most of what i said is a valid method |
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