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Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:45:00 -
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Also note that the Dren Sentinel Suit is not correct in that it lists it as having 0 module slots (both high and low), but you can get around this with just using the A-1 sentinel for now (or enter the data)
edit: appears to be same for all dren |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:45:00 -
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Might want to look at those grenades again... I think you may have sneezed at some point O,o |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:52:00 -
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Also... *cough*... you may want to look at saved fitting slots on low side. It saves it correctly but when recovered, my low module in slot 1 (bottom) was moved to slot 3 (middle)
note: nvm it does break stuff. Slot 3 is not recovered when loading, it just uses slot 1 |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 17:00:00 -
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Also while we're chatting https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnzUO1IiyrFYdDdyNFJwakRzeFRuTnU2RTVuUWoySkE&usp=sharing
Check the back 2 sheets, feel free to discard or use as you like
Currently I use the Manual Calculations to try and compare suits but if you put in a suit compare tool I am intending to upgrade that.
Also the graphing only goes to 17 seconds mostly because google was fighting me and I had to keep manually editing the fields rather than it guessing the sequence |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 19:06:00 -
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OOOOOOOHHH I get how those are connecting now. Geez that was confusing the crap out of me.
No idea why it works in the basic fitting tool though |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:27:00 -
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You might want to check some math on here for the regulator. With a Assault C-1 and an Enhanced Regulator you have 5/8->4/6.4 when I have 0 skillpoints. However if I were to give myself skill levels in the regulator skill (let's say level 5) this changes to 4.5/7.2 Which is much less ideal (and equivalent to a 10% boost instead). Basic regulator does nothing |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.22 12:36:00 -
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hydraSlav's wrote:Rynx Sinfar wrote:You might want to check some math on here for the regulator. With a Assault C-1 and an Enhanced Regulator you have 5/8->4/6.4 when I have 0 skillpoints. However if I were to give myself skill levels in the regulator skill (let's say level 5) this changes to 4.5/7.2 Which is much less ideal (and equivalent to a 10% boost instead). Basic regulator does nothing 3.0.4 Fixed the issue with the Shield Regulation skill having inverse effect on the module. As far as i can tell, this is the only module in such scenario. Not sure why you are saying the Basic Shield Regulator "does nothing". That i could not reproduce. Possible you were doing too many changes at once and the spreadsheet didn't catch up?
HydraSlav from the looks of it you are adding the bonus to the mod rather than multiplying by it. So for example with the default setup of light frame that has a delay of 4/8, a basic regulator reduces this to 3.6 / 7.2 . both of which are a 10% decrease. However if I increase my skill level to 5 (with the character option of level 5 skill all) this number goes to 3.2 / 6.4 . Which indicates a 20% decrease. If I were to only have level 3 regulators I would get a 16% decrease with basic regulators. So what was it was adding a negative effect like discussed and because at level 5 you have 10%, and a basic has 10%, they were canceling eachother out.
I haven't used them personally in the new build (part of what I use this tool for, and what I use my armor calculator for is comparing Armor and Shield tanking) but I believe the skill only increases the effects by a percent of the base module, not a straight score. So at lvl 5 skill a basic module should give a 11% reduction, and an enhanced module should give a 22%, and a complex should give a 27.5%. Granted it's not exactly stunning but otherwise no matter what mod you used you'd get a free basic regulator as well. |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:37:00 -
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Also I just confirmed a standard pistol has CPU/PG of 11/2, your sheet lists it at 10/2. Small difference but I was building a suit with my predicted stats after respec and I was 1 over on CPU... in actuallity I was 2 T_T
I'll check my suits stats tonight potentially to make sure at least my stuff is set |
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:14:00 -
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My understanding is the respec didn't occur today, in which case I have regulators at level 3. I can test with basic and enhanced vs. the dren suits, and starter gallante. I may be able to level up regulator depending on how much spare SP I currently have, of which I think is atleast 100k.
For suits this would give us test cases of 4/8, 7/10, 5/8, 6/6, 7/10
of which I can test at least a 10% reduction *6%efficacy, 20% reduction * 6% efficacy. And then potentially also test with 8% efficacy. No way I'll reach 5 before respec |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:49:00 -
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yeah I already submitted for respec, I made some mistakes and with the extra SP I can change direction a bit.
Crap sometimes happens but I'll see if I can get it today |
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Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.22 21:04:00 -
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Next time you're in game can you confirm you don't have Shield Extension 4? I have confirmed in the spreadsheet that upon removing an enhanced extender at Extension lvl 3 you lose 34 shield, which means a calculation is occurring. If I increase the Shield Extension skill to lvl 4 I get the same result you indicated the game gives. It may simply be a rounding error since it is 3 shield difference and there are 3 extenders but if you'll forgive me asking it's a quick double check for you, probably 10 minutes for him, and probably 30 minutes for me.
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Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:05:00 -
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it did not, no word on when
also I can't accurately test the regulator as it doesn't display the value and the difference will be too small for me to manually record. Didn't they used to show the shield delays in the main stats before? |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:21:00 -
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It cant' be migrated because of a lot of features he implemented. While an excel version would be possible, it would only work in excel and not in google docs and would require a lot of rewrites probably. That new excel version would also not work on your phone with excel compatible programs (if that is what you were hoping) |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:23:00 -
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I'd agree with xAckie, an indicator in the skills sheet would be a good idea, and use the value it currently is.
Frankly said I still haven't gotten a response on whether or not the Dren Pistol is meant to have the stats it has. We don't know when the fix will occur but as a result of that issue a very precise fit is not functional for me and probably others as well.
The worst case scenario in my mind is someone setting up their skills and finding that their precise fit in game doesn't work by 1-2 CPU. The resulting forced downgrades could create major fit changes. For my fit (for example) it's not enough to just downgrade a module, I now have spare CPU/PG as a result and must find a good use for it. Weapons, greandes, modules all might change. |
Rynx Sinfar
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:38:00 -
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As a note, in a correspondence with support they said that because the Templar items were unreleased they couldn't comment on any fitting values (namely CPU/PG). Therefore while the values are likely to remain unchanged, I wouldn't go spending millions of SP based on it or anything like that. |
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