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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:19:00 -
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this is a HIGHLY accurate graph of eve |
Spademan
Hydra II-Omega
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:24:00 -
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Yeah, thats about right. Needs to be a bit steeper though. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:29:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Yeah, thats about right. Needs to be a bit steeper though.
it also needs more spears and a few pits of burning tar |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:30:00 -
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I think the game is quite simple, point and click. Dust is easier, select a heavy and hold r1. |
General Tiberius1
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:37:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:I think the game is quite simple, point and click. Dust is easier, select a heavy and hold r1.
you've never played eve, have you? |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:40:00 -
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I play Eves shooter minigame alot! |
Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:44:00 -
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I've always loved that graph, although in recent years it has gotten easier with an actual tutorial. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:46:00 -
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By FPS standards, DUST has a similar curve.
Most current-gen "AAA" shooters start off about LOTRO level, and level out at about... LOTRO's starting level.
Most legitimately good shooters start off about POTBS level, and flatten out by the time the POTBS line would be crossing the WoW line. Then run parallel with the "AAA" line, but slightly higher. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:48:00 -
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Casius Hakoke wrote:I've always loved that graph, although in recent years it has gotten easier with an actual tutorial.
so they removed A spear, big woop
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Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:50:00 -
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I'm going to throw some logic in here, just for the sake of trolling you.
The EvE curve moves backwards on the X-axis, which represents time, so somehow as the game gets harder, it becomes so difficult that it reverses time itself. |
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Spademan
Hydra II-Omega
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:52:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Spademan wrote:Yeah, thats about right. Needs to be a bit steeper though. it also needs more spears and a few pits of burning tar
And maybe some buzzsaws at the end. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.04.01 23:54:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I'm going to throw some logic in here, just for the sake of trolling you.
The EvE curve moves backwards on the X-axis, which represents time, so somehow as the game gets harder, it becomes so difficult that it reverses time itself. No it doesn't. There's a point at which it can potentially take a massive leap, but doesn't always have to, hence the multiple levels to the graph at the point, one of which divides into a path going up towards the eventual difficulty level and the other heavin gback down towards the more reasonable curve before once again taking a flying leap into the stratosphere. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:01:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Logi Bro wrote:I'm going to throw some logic in here, just for the sake of trolling you.
The EvE curve moves backwards on the X-axis, which represents time, so somehow as the game gets harder, it becomes so difficult that it reverses time itself. No it doesn't. There's a point at which it can potentially take a massive leap, but doesn't always have to, hence the multiple levels to the graph at the point, one of which divides into a path going up towards the eventual difficulty level and the other heavin gback down towards the more reasonable curve before once again taking a flying leap into the stratosphere.
But the ozone within the stratosphere would absorb the time-canceling ultraviolet radiation rays, therefore making useless the paradox machine you created for the sake of this argument. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:01:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:this is a HIGHLY accurate graph of eve
eve is only difficult if you listen to all the nay-sayers. they'll tell you you can't go out to nullsec for the first year. they'll tell you you shouldn't go out to low-sec for the first year, they make it seem like there's a monster living outside of high-sec.
any real gamer who gets into eve online learns to get kills and dominate. |
Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:04:00 -
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low genius wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:this is a HIGHLY accurate graph of eve eve is only difficult if you listen to all the nay-sayers. they'll tell you you can't go out to nullsec for the first year. they'll tell you you shouldn't go out to low-sec for the first year, they make it seem like there's a monster living outside of high-sec. any real gamer who gets into eve online learns to get kills and dominate.
Honestly in all my time playing eve, I've never heard anybody say that about null sec or low sec. In fact one of the best pieces of advice is to just go and find yourself some fights, you can do it day one, probably won't get anyway but to a medical facility very quickly, but its how you learn. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:04:00 -
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low genius wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:this is a HIGHLY accurate graph of eve eve is only difficult if you listen to all the nay-sayers. they'll tell you you can't go out to nullsec for the first year. they'll tell you you shouldn't go out to low-sec for the first year, they make it seem like there's a monster living outside of high-sec. any real gamer who gets into eve online learns to get kills and dominate.
not at that point yet |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:32:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Logi Bro wrote:I'm going to throw some logic in here, just for the sake of trolling you.
The EvE curve moves backwards on the X-axis, which represents time, so somehow as the game gets harder, it becomes so difficult that it reverses time itself. No it doesn't. There's a point at which it can potentially take a massive leap, but doesn't always have to, hence the multiple levels to the graph at the point, one of which divides into a path going up towards the eventual difficulty level and the other heavin gback down towards the more reasonable curve before once again taking a flying leap into the stratosphere. But the ozone within the stratosphere would absorb the time-canceling ultraviolet radiation rays, therefore making useless the paradox machine you created for the sake of this argument. You need to stop thinking of time as a strict single line.
It doesn't work that way. More than one possibility can be considered to be valid within a single moment. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:36:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Logi Bro wrote:I'm going to throw some logic in here, just for the sake of trolling you.
The EvE curve moves backwards on the X-axis, which represents time, so somehow as the game gets harder, it becomes so difficult that it reverses time itself. No it doesn't. There's a point at which it can potentially take a massive leap, but doesn't always have to, hence the multiple levels to the graph at the point, one of which divides into a path going up towards the eventual difficulty level and the other heavin gback down towards the more reasonable curve before once again taking a flying leap into the stratosphere. But the ozone within the stratosphere would absorb the time-canceling ultraviolet radiation rays, therefore making useless the paradox machine you created for the sake of this argument. You need to stop thinking of time as a strict single line. It doesn't work that way. More than one possibility can be considered to be valid within a single moment.
My TARDIS only operates on one plain of time, I only ended up in an alternate line by pure mistake once. I discount other lines because they have no effect on our own line, unless someone pokes a hole in between dimensions, in which case we're all screwed. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:39:00 -
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and thats what nearly crippled EvE, luckly EvE was built and founded in the days when noone new better you cant get away with that anymore.
someone got to give the newbs climbing gear :P |
General Tiberius1
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:40:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Logi Bro wrote:I'm going to throw some logic in here, just for the sake of trolling you.
The EvE curve moves backwards on the X-axis, which represents time, so somehow as the game gets harder, it becomes so difficult that it reverses time itself. No it doesn't. There's a point at which it can potentially take a massive leap, but doesn't always have to, hence the multiple levels to the graph at the point, one of which divides into a path going up towards the eventual difficulty level and the other heavin gback down towards the more reasonable curve before once again taking a flying leap into the stratosphere. But the ozone within the stratosphere would absorb the time-canceling ultraviolet radiation rays, therefore making useless the paradox machine you created for the sake of this argument. You need to stop thinking of time as a strict single line. It doesn't work that way. More than one possibility can be considered to be valid within a single moment. My TARDIS only operates on one plain of time, I only ended up in an alternate line by pure mistake once. I discount other lines because they have no effect on our own line, unless someone pokes a hole in between dimensions, in which case we're all screwed.
-_-
did we just go into a Doctor Who conversation?
i apologize to the community for this thread |
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Phoenix Archer 128
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:41:00 -
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I've made some mistakes in EVE, but I learn from them...kinda like playing Demon's Souls or Dark Souls.
As long as you fly a ship you can afford to lose, you can't lose. Most basic part of EVE, and too many people forget about it. Yeah, risk vs reward and all, but still; there is always someone out to get you, and the more bling you have on your ship, the more people want to be on your killmail. If you can't replace your ship, don't fly it. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:47:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:You need to stop thinking of time as a strict single line.
It doesn't work that way. More than one possibility can be considered to be valid within a single moment. My TARDIS only operates on one plain of time, I only ended up in an alternate line by pure mistake once. I discount other lines because they have no effect on our own line, unless someone pokes a hole in between dimensions, in which case we're all screwed. -_- did we just go into a Doctor Who conversation? i apologize to the community for this thread He's trying to use Doctor Who references to cover for his failure to process the non-linear nature of time. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:50:00 -
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Casius Hakoke wrote:low genius wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:this is a HIGHLY accurate graph of eve eve is only difficult if you listen to all the nay-sayers. they'll tell you you can't go out to nullsec for the first year. they'll tell you you shouldn't go out to low-sec for the first year, they make it seem like there's a monster living outside of high-sec. any real gamer who gets into eve online learns to get kills and dominate. Honestly in all my time playing eve, I've never heard anybody say that about null sec or low sec. In fact one of the best pieces of advice is to just go and find yourself some fights, you can do it day one, probably won't get anyway but to a medical facility very quickly, but its how you learn.
oh, man. they acted like it was a slaughterhouse out there when i started. i was supposed to be scared of my shadow. it took me about 6 weeks to get my first kill, and it's just been a pogrom since. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:51:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:He's trying to use Doctor Who references to cover for his failure to process the non-linear nature of time.
I have played Bioshock Infinite too, of course. Obviously if you have the inherent ability to open tears in the fabric of existence, and provided a siphon is not hamstringing your powers, one can see through all dimensions and realities at one time, and become an ultimate god-sentient being that felt a little too "writer's convenience" to be a satisfactory ending to that game.
Oh yeah, spoiler alert. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:52:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:low genius wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:this is a HIGHLY accurate graph of eve eve is only difficult if you listen to all the nay-sayers. they'll tell you you can't go out to nullsec for the first year. they'll tell you you shouldn't go out to low-sec for the first year, they make it seem like there's a monster living outside of high-sec. any real gamer who gets into eve online learns to get kills and dominate. not at that point yet
i can have you getting kills in no time, and solo kills in 6 weeks. it's all about understanding combat mechanics, just like any game. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.02 00:54:00 -
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Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:I've made some mistakes in EVE, but I learn from them...kinda like playing Demon's Souls or Dark Souls.
As long as you fly a ship you can afford to lose, you can't lose. Most basic part of EVE, and too many people forget about it. Yeah, risk vs reward and all, but still; there is always someone out to get you, and the more bling you have on your ship, the more people want to be on your killmail. If you can't replace your ship, don't fly it.
that's very true. you want to fly a ship that no one will run from, and that no one will call in recon for. (or fly a maulus, and then all the recon in the world doesn't matter much)
4000 m/s cap stable with a long point. that's step 2. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.02 01:10:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:He's trying to use Doctor Who references to cover for his failure to process the non-linear nature of time. I have played Bioshock Infinite too, of course. Obviously if you have the inherent ability to open tears in the fabric of existence, and provided a siphon is not hamstringing your powers, one can see through all dimensions and realities at one time, and become an ultimate god-sentient being that felt a little too "writer's convenience" to be a satisfactory ending to that game. Oh yeah, spoiler alert.
oh well, had nothing to do with the original bio-shocks, so never playing it anyway |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.02 01:13:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:oh well, had nothing to do with the original bio-shocks, so never playing it anyway
Two things.
1. That wasn't actually a big spoiler, anyone that has seen the trailers knows that Elizabeth can open "tears"
2. It is one of the best games I've played since the first Bioshock, was very well done by Irrational. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.02 01:16:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:oh well, had nothing to do with the original bio-shocks, so never playing it anyway Two things. 1. That wasn't actually a big spoiler, anyone that has seen the trailers knows that Elizabeth can open "tears" 2. It is one of the best games I've played since the first Bioshock, was very well done by Irrational.
no big daddies=not bioshock |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.04.02 01:16:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:the first Bioshock You mean System Shock? |
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