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John Dozzzer
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.03.30 22:59:00 -
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Been a Heavy since closed beta. Nerfs have steered me away from it now.
Indecisive on whether to go Scrambler Pistol or Submachine gun
Also which suit Logi or Scout
I refuse to go Assault
I also have plenty complex mods so plz jus stick to what I'm trying to ask
Thank you my Good People
Hail Bacon  |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:00:00 -
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Scrambler pistol and logi. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:02:00 -
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Logi's don't get a secondary. So scout if you really want to use a side arm without losing your main, you'll be paper thin though, not worth it in my opinion.
Scrambler pistols if you have good aim and don't stress in CQC, use SMG otherwise. |
Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:03:00 -
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Scrambler pistol always. |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:05:00 -
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As a heavy you should stick with assault submachine gun. Eats through anything..... |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:05:00 -
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Use both on a scout. Pistols do more damage to shields, SMG's are more effective against armor. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:07:00 -
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If you have a KBM or amazing aim - Pistol wins. Otherwise SMG |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:07:00 -
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both are very good.
The Scramble pistol for engagements whering a direct line of sight can be establlished. AKA- CQC in corridors.
The SMG for all other engagements, best when clearing corners and building interiors/exteriors |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:07:00 -
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I go with pistols. Lower CPU and PG helps too :) |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:11:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I go with pistols. Lower CPU and PG helps too :)
NO! ASSAULT SUBMACHINE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously though I have watched aldin kahn go 20-1 with them.... they are godly. The stats on them are false btw they do waaaaaay more dmg then it says. |
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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:14:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I go with pistols. Lower CPU and PG helps too :) NO! ASSAULT SUBMACHINE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously though I have watched aldin kahn go 20-1 with them.... they are godly. The stats on them are false btw they do waaaaaay more dmg then it says.
ill try it once i skill it up
Edit: I think scrambler pistols are more.... Classy though  |
Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:15:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I go with pistols. Lower CPU and PG helps too :) NO! ASSAULT SUBMACHINE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously though I have watched aldin kahn go 20-1 with them.... they are godly. The stats on them are false btw they do waaaaaay more dmg then it says.
Sorry but pistols>SMGS |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:16:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I go with pistols. Lower CPU and PG helps too :) NO! ASSAULT SUBMACHINE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously though I have watched aldin kahn go 20-1 with them.... they are godly. The stats on them are false btw they do waaaaaay more dmg then it says. ill try it once i skill it up
Please do you get the assault variant at lvl 1. |
John Dozzzer
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:16:00 -
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Much Appreciated my good people
Hail Bacon |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:17:00 -
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flaylock pistol
OH right why haven't I been logging in for 2 months... hmmmm |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:17:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I go with pistols. Lower CPU and PG helps too :) NO! ASSAULT SUBMACHINE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously though I have watched aldin kahn go 20-1 with them.... they are godly. The stats on them are false btw they do waaaaaay more dmg then it says. Sorry but pistols>SMGS
Pistols < strafing with said SMG. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:18:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I go with pistols. Lower CPU and PG helps too :) NO! ASSAULT SUBMACHINE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously though I have watched aldin kahn go 20-1 with them.... they are godly. The stats on them are false btw they do waaaaaay more dmg then it says. Sorry but pistols>SMGS Pistols < strafing with said SMG.
Pistol headshots > strafing with SMG |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:21:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:flaylock pistol
OH right why haven't I been logging in for 2 months... hmmmm
Because Zion isn't as fun as it used to be 
As a fatty I rarely die to pistols. Takes a skilled player to pull it off properly even with fast reloads. SMG on the other hand - any scrub can pick that up and pray and spray me down and my large hitbox. I would assume SMG aren't effective against scouts and not nearly against assaults, so that would sway many to think pistols > smg. but it's not. DPS value of SMG is much higher. |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:28:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:flaylock pistol
OH right why haven't I been logging in for 2 months... hmmmm Because Zion isn't as fun as it used to be As a fatty I rarely die to pistols. Takes a skilled player to pull it off properly even with fast reloads. SMG on the other hand - any scrub can pick that up and pray and spray me down and my large hitbox. I would assume SMG aren't effective against scouts and not nearly against assaults, so that would sway many to think pistols > smg. but it's not. DPS value of SMG is much higher.
+1 for common logic from an IMP |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:34:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:flaylock pistol
OH right why haven't I been logging in for 2 months... hmmmm Because Zion isn't as fun as it used to be As a fatty I rarely die to pistols. Takes a skilled player to pull it off properly even with fast reloads. SMG on the other hand - any scrub can pick that up and pray and spray me down and my large hitbox. I would assume SMG aren't effective against scouts and not nearly against assaults, so that would sway many to think pistols > smg. but it's not. DPS value of SMG is much higher. +1 for common logic from an IMP
You're the first to ever call me an Imp lol |
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Kane Fyea
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:37:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:flaylock pistol
OH right why haven't I been logging in for 2 months... hmmmm Because Zion isn't as fun as it used to be As a fatty I rarely die to pistols. Takes a skilled player to pull it off properly even with fast reloads. SMG on the other hand - any scrub can pick that up and pray and spray me down and my large hitbox. I would assume SMG aren't effective against scouts and not nearly against assaults, so that would sway many to think pistols > smg. but it's not. DPS value of SMG is much higher.
I've killed quite a few heavies with my pistol thanks to the 450% headshot damage |
icdedppul
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:39:00 -
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Pistols if you can aim.. they are just way to much fun.
Scouts with 2 pistols.. great fun, only thing you need to worry about is other scouts in CQC as its really hard to hit them with pistols
(but your going to want min lvl 3 in pistols, horray +1 clip size) |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.31 00:20:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:flaylock pistol
OH right why haven't I been logging in for 2 months... hmmmm Because Zion isn't as fun as it used to be As a fatty I rarely die to pistols. Takes a skilled player to pull it off properly even with fast reloads. SMG on the other hand - any scrub can pick that up and pray and spray me down and my large hitbox. I would assume SMG aren't effective against scouts and not nearly against assaults, so that would sway many to think pistols > smg. but it's not. DPS value of SMG is much higher. +1 for common logic from an IMP You're the first to ever call me an Imp lol
Sorry? Your welcome? ...... idk if it is an insult or good thing lol. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.03.31 00:25:00 -
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As a side arm for finishing off opponents, go breach scrambler pistol. Can help to finish off opponents that have just a little bit left. If you want it to deal with full health opponents, then definitely use the Assault SMG.
From a guy that uses Swarms and Forge guns  |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.03.31 00:30:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:flaylock pistol
OH right why haven't I been logging in for 2 months... hmmmm Because Zion isn't as fun as it used to be As a fatty I rarely die to pistols. Takes a skilled player to pull it off properly even with fast reloads. SMG on the other hand - any scrub can pick that up and pray and spray me down and my large hitbox. I would assume SMG aren't effective against scouts and not nearly against assaults, so that would sway many to think pistols > smg. but it's not. DPS value of SMG is much higher. +1 for common logic from an IMP You're the first to ever call me an Imp lol Sorry? Your welcome? ...... idk if it is an insult or good thing lol.
I guess it's good. Just hadn't noticed till now no ones called me an Imp but everyone else gets imp thrown in there face lol. |
God Hates Lags
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.31 00:30:00 -
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As a heavy I have to say that with my HMG basically the only reason I'd switch to a sidearm would be if I run of out ammo and the enemy is too close for cover to be effective. In quarters that close, I find the SMG to be the only effective solution. |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.03.31 00:47:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:flaylock pistol
OH right why haven't I been logging in for 2 months... hmmmm Because Zion isn't as fun as it used to be As a fatty I rarely die to pistols. Takes a skilled player to pull it off properly even with fast reloads. SMG on the other hand - any scrub can pick that up and pray and spray me down and my large hitbox. I would assume SMG aren't effective against scouts and not nearly against assaults, so that would sway many to think pistols > smg. but it's not. DPS value of SMG is much higher.
That's probably because SMG's are projectile weapons just like HMG's so they a good deal more damage to armor, that's why they're so good at killing heavies.
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blue gt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.31 01:53:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Logi's don't get a secondary. So scout if you really want to use a side arm without losing your main, you'll be paper thin though, not worth it in my opinion.
Scrambler pistols if you have good aim and don't stress in CQC, use SMG otherwise.
this. except for the scout. scouts are a lot of fun but sooooooo weak in the short game, you will have to be about 5mil SP in before its even useful. scouts are based around harassment not kills. they can fight clear through a major battle given enough distraction but you lose the majority of their HP the second some one looks at you, but nothing keeps an enemy team better occupied then a well played scout.
logi is only good for support, its slow speeds and heavy like hit box make it a liability in combat, on the bright side logis scale almost as well as scouts given that they have the largest number of highs and lows. this also makes logis some of the best players in the game, all things equal I would rather fight a proto assault then a std logi. in higher levels the logi can provide support and support fire under some pretty heavy fire.
both are very SP intensive and both are horrible in 1 on 1 combat, if you are a good player you can pull out a 1 on 1victory with them where you could with any other suit, but they will not survive fights where you are out numbered(scouts do have the advantage of allowing you to kite a many on one into many 1on1s).
if you play well with others I would go logi, if you like to flank or lone wolf scout. |
Rifter7
Improvise.
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Posted - 2013.03.31 01:56:00 -
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I use an advanced smg with my proto laser.. Don't regret it ever, even tho it costs more pg/cpu and only does 140 percent headshot damage.
I kill almost everything except proto ar and dropsuits with it now, it's supports are being heavily trained as I speak so I can use an officer smg to get around that.
They are assault rifles with higher close range dmg and a steeper falloff dmg rate.. Very powerful tools if you invest into them. |
blue gt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.31 02:01:00 -
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God Hates Lags wrote:As a heavy I have to say that with my HMG basically the only reason I'd switch to a sidearm would be if I run of out ammo and the enemy is too close for cover to be effective. In quarters that close, I find the SMG to be the only effective solution.
yea in CQC the pistol can be hard to work and its not good for assaulting, it only good as a back up defensive weapon really. a reallly really deadly defensive weapon.
oh yea smgs are really mediocre untill you skill into them but dear god they melt things once you do skill them, they are no ARs but a skilled player can make an AR think twice at almost any range. |
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