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Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2013.03.30 21:35:00 - [1] - Quote The EMP grenade will take up an infantry grenade slot (for obvious reasons) When thrown, the grenade will emit an EMP and everyone within a certain range will lose radar and communications for a certain amount of time, in addition to disabling any equipment for that length of time. A small amount of damage will be inflicted upon any shields as well, based on distance from the grenade and the signature size of dropsuits/vehicles/installations. Length of these disruptions will vary based on the level of the grenade. Example: 5s for standard EMP Grenades and up to 20s for prototype EMP Grenades Suggestions for uses: If the shield regenerator equipment becomes abused when it comes out, throw an EMP grenade to temporarily disable these shield regenerators. Same as above but for cloaking devices. If a squad is mowing your team down, an EMP grenade will temporarily disable their communications and may give you the edge you need to stop them while they can't communicate with each other.
Valto Hynton 2100453693 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2013.03.30 21:56:00 - [2] - Quote 20s feels to long, i would make it 5s standard, 7s advanced, and 9s prototype.
Jathniel G I A N T 124	Posted - 2013.03.30 22:03:00 - [3] - Quote Interesting idea... Rather just get EMP Orbital Strike, and get like 2 mins of equipment loss. Nice and gritty. ^,..,^
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2013.03.30 22:04:00 - [4] - Quote Valto Hynton 2100453693 wrote: 20s feels to long, i would make it 5s standard, 7s advanced, and 9s prototype. Of course. I was just simply using some feasible numbers as an example. Numbers can always be tweaked to meet balancing issues. I try to keep numbers out of my ideas as best as possible unless if I'm using them as examples.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 11	Posted - 2013.03.31 00:33:00 - [5] - Quote Aren't the Flux grenades already basic EMO grenades?. They already disrupt shields and destroy equipment.
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.03.31 01:18:00 - [6] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Aren't the Flux grenades already basic EMO grenades?. They already disrupt shields and destroy equipment. All they do is damage shields, don't know about them actually destroying equipment, don't think they do. Could be considered EMP but the idea being presented here is a weapon designed to disrupt, not to damage. For instance it could knock out radar, scanning, cause optical glitches, mess with IFF and so forth. Against vehicles might make movement jerky and sluggish and temporarily impair its weapon systems. Might be interesting.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 936	Posted - 2013.03.31 01:35:00 - [7] - Quote me and berin huin were discussing this in irc and we came to the conclusion that if they implement an EMP grenade it should disrupt module usage on vehicles eg stopping an armour repper from working, and it should also take out the tacnet. another thing we thought might work if it stopped shield regen as well.
H arpoon WarRavens 29	Posted - 2013.03.31 01:51:00 - [8] - Quote Could they also disrupt visual near the EMP blast? It gets less fuzzy the farther from the grenade. Or is that too op?
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.03.31 01:57:00 - [9] - Quote gbghg wrote: me and berin huin were discussing this in irc and we came to the conclusion that if they implement an EMP grenade it should disrupt module usage on vehicles eg stopping an armour repper from working, and it should also take out the tacnet. another thing we thought might work if it stopped shield regen as well. Ah, of course. Disabling active modules on vehicles is a great idea for its effect on them. Extending the idea to infantry perhaps it can temporarily make them revert to factory default? Disables most high-powered modules and a few low-powered. Would lose weapon boosters, shield extenders, shield regulators and armour reppers but leave armour plates and biotics intact.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2013.03.31 03:16:00 - [10] - Quote H arpoon wrote: Could they also disrupt visual near the EMP blast? It gets less fuzzy the farther from the grenade. Or is that too op? I thought about it creating static interference with vision, but imagine being spammed by these grenades from the other team hugging a supply depot which makes you blind and they pick you off easily. However, I took that concept into a stationary deploy-able piece of equipment: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66691&find=unread This way, a team won't be able to spam vision disrupting grenades while still having something in the game capable of disrupting vision.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 937	Posted - 2013.03.31 03:25:00 - [11] - Quote Another thing me and berin agreed on was that these grenades would have to have FF enabled to stop people spamming them in close quarters.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2013.03.31 03:27:00 - [12] - Quote gbghg wrote: Another thing me and berin agreed on was that these grenades would have to have FF enabled to stop people spamming them in close quarters. Yes indeed. FF will be turned on with the next update \o/ So this definitely won't be something that a mindless zombie will be able to spam
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects 66	Posted - 2013.03.31 03:50:00 - [13] - Quote what you are suggesting is a scambling field not an emp. flux is emp. i can see this as equipment not as a nade.
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD 294	Posted - 2013.03.31 03:53:00 - [14] - Quote Sounds like the Flux Grenade description to me. More finely tuned but grenades in DUST have ... squishy definitions. The better to make them do whatever CCP/Shanghai decides to do while not having to actually match the non-existent documentation.
Kazeno Rannaa Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 156	Posted - 2013.03.31 07:18:00 - [15] - Quote Here is the deal. If any one really understands the effects of an EMP, such as something that happens after the ignition of high density plasma, a nuclear blast, or in the case of Dust and grenades, the FLUX. EMP's don't interfere with electronics; it FRIES THEM. They don't cause glitches, EMP's blow transmitters, transistors, circuit boards, chips, you know anything that is not hardened to the effects of electro-magnetic pulses. So FLUX's do just that. We have EMP's, but this id EVE and Dust in around 22,000-23,000 AD, not 2013.
Draco Dustflier Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2013.03.31 07:30:00 - [16] - Quote but cod has stuff like this. i don't want another cod.
CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 41	Posted - 2013.03.31 08:48:00 - [17] - Quote Emp: Disable the HUD can't see shield armor map ammo or distinguish friend or foe XD
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2013.03.31 12:51:00 - [18] - Quote Kazeno Rannaa wrote: Here is the deal. If any one really understands the effects of an EMP, such as something that happens after the ignition of high density plasma, a nuclear blast, or in the case of Dust and grenades, the FLUX. EMP's don't interfere with electronics; it FRIES THEM. They don't cause glitches, EMP's blow transmitters, transistors, circuit boards, chips, you know anything that is not hardened to the effects of electro-magnetic pulses. So FLUX's do just that. We have EMP's, but this id EVE and Dust in around 22,000-23,000 AD, not 2013. Hence why your electronics become disabled until your magnetically shielded nanites that will come with each dropsuit repair your electronics.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2013.03.31 12:54:00 - [19] - Quote ladwar wrote: what you are suggesting is a scambling field not an emp. flux is emp. i can see this as equipment not as a nade. Read this for a scrambling field equipment: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66691&find=unread
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 13	Posted - 2013.03.31 13:26:00 - [20] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Aren't the Flux grenades already basic EMO grenades?. They already disrupt shields and destroy equipment. All they do is damage shields, don't know about them actually destroying equipment, don't think they do. Could be considered EMP but the idea being presented here is a weapon designed to disrupt, not to damage. For instance it could knock out radar, scanning, cause optical glitches, mess with IFF and so forth. Against vehicles might make movement jerky and sluggish and temporarily impair its weapon systems. Might be interesting. They do destroy equipment. I have witnessed this first hand.
Cat Merc Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 312	Posted - 2013.03.31 13:39:00 - [21] - Quote If ANYTHING in the game will disable comms people will just move to things like teamspeak or Vent. So its a big NO. For the rest, even today most military electronics are shielded against EMP's and consumer electronics are slowly being shielded too. (Most high end graphics cards are protected like that, for example the GTX Titan can survive an EMP blast) And we have spaceships... so....
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1151	Posted - 2013.03.31 16:39:00 - [22] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Aren't the Flux grenades already basic EMO grenades?. They already disrupt shields and destroy equipment. All they do is damage shields, don't know about them actually destroying equipment, don't think they do. Could be considered EMP but the idea being presented here is a weapon designed to disrupt, not to damage. For instance it could knock out radar, scanning, cause optical glitches, mess with IFF and so forth. Against vehicles might make movement jerky and sluggish and temporarily impair its weapon systems. Might be interesting. I've confirmed that they destroy equipment. I think this EMP grenade idea should transfer to flux grenades and EMP orbitals. EMP orbitals ATM are just giant flux grenades, with a massive blast radius.

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