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JJ Jk Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.03.30 19:59:00 - [1] - Quote Why does the camera keep zooming in and out when you start sprinting? honestly, what is the point? i find it extremely disorienting, obstructive, and it's completely unnecessary. if CCP knew anything about field-of-view, they would realize that decreasing it makes you feel like you're moving slower. so how does decreasing field-of-view when you start sprinting make any sense at all? This is game design 101, it's mind boggling how this has been left in the game for so long...
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1829	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:05:00 - [2] - Quote I'm not feeling sick from this and I can sprint up to 9.4m/s. CCP is not at fault for you having motion sickness.
JJ Jk Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:12:00 - [3] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I'm not feeling sick from this and I can sprint up to 9.4m/s. CCP is not at fault for you having motion sickness. please don't try and defend their ignorance. motion sickness isn't the only problem. decreasing field-of-view gives the sense of running through jello and obstructs your view so you can't see what's going on in your peripheral vision. when you sprint the camera should zoom out, not in, or do nothing at all. there's literally zero logic behind CCP's choices.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 923	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:13:00 - [4] - Quote What maken tosch said, everyone i know who plays this game is fine.
Jathniel G I A N T 124	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:15:00 - [5] - Quote Perhaps the OP's concern can be addressed with adding an option to eliminate certain field of view changes and camera sway. However, camera sway should still be added during ADS. Don't try to use motion sickness as an excuse to get an advantage.
Celeblhach Goggles Inc. 8	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:23:00 - [6] - Quote The zoom is called tunnel vision and does occur when moving at decent speeds. It's a bit severe in the game but nobody I know has a problem playing because of it. EDIT: Not as severe as I initially thought. a sprint of 9.4 m/s is 33.8 km/h (21 mph). Much faster than normal people can run.
JJ Jk Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:27:00 - [7] - Quote gbghg wrote: What maken tosch said, everyone i know who plays this game is fine. Ya what a surprise, the people who continue to play this game like the mechanics. i wonder what the million players who immediately deleted the game off their hard drive as soon as they played their first match thought about issues like these...we'll never know because none of them care enough about this game to find these forums and give their feedback. Jathniel wrote: Perhaps the OP's concern can be addressed with adding an option to eliminate certain field of view changes and camera sway. However, camera sway should still be added during ADS. Don't try to use motion sickness as an excuse to get an advantage. To get an advantage? i want this issue to be removed from the game entirely. there would be no side effects and it would improve the game for everybody.
JJ Jk Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:29:00 - [8] - Quote Celeblhach wrote: The zoom is called tunnel vision and does occur when moving at decent speeds. It's a bit severe in the game but nobody I know has a problem playing because of it. EDIT: Not as severe as I initially thought. a sprint of 9.4 m/s is 33.8 km/h (21 mph). Much faster than normal people can run. and tunnel vision belongs in first-person shooters why?... also there isn't a time in this game where you can even remotely feel like you're moving that fast, a testament to how bad this tunnel vision effect is (or CCP is BSing their movement speed numbers).
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 923	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:32:00 - [9] - Quote JJ Jk wrote: Celeblhach wrote: The zoom is called tunnel vision and does occur when moving at decent speeds. It's a bit severe in the game but nobody I know has a problem playing because of it. EDIT: Not as severe as I initially thought. a sprint of 9.4 m/s is 33.8 km/h (21 mph). Much faster than normal people can run. and tunnel vision belongs in first-person shooters why?... because it's a first person shooter, and therefore mimics what you see in first person.
JJ Jk Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:48:00 - [10] - Quote gbghg wrote: JJ Jk wrote: Celeblhach wrote: The zoom is called tunnel vision and does occur when moving at decent speeds. It's a bit severe in the game but nobody I know has a problem playing because of it. EDIT: Not as severe as I initially thought. a sprint of 9.4 m/s is 33.8 km/h (21 mph). Much faster than normal people can run. and tunnel vision belongs in first-person shooters why?... because it's a first person shooter, and therefore mimics what you see in first person. ok, then our horizontal field of view should be nearly 180 degrees (nearly twice what we have in-game now) and objects should begin to blur at a distance due to imperfect vision in order to accurately portray the human eye.... do you see what i'm trying to get at? realism doesn't belong in video games and if you want realism you have to be consistent. if we can't have a real human's field-of-view then why should we include something as random as tunnel vision? (especially when there's zero benefits to having it and all it does is detract from the gameplay). in fact by real-life standards we all already have severe tunnel vision in-game even without the sprinting...

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3290	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:54:00 - [11] - Quote Someone else had this problem before that I recall. I personally don't have a problem with it, but I don't want the game to be ruined for others but such a unimportant thing.
Llan Heindell One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 3	Posted - 2013.03.30 20:56:00 - [12] - Quote Never felt sick while sprinting. Sorry OP, I think it's you. Llan Heindell.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 11	Posted - 2013.03.30 22:04:00 - [13] - Quote Llan Heindell wrote: Never felt sick while sprinting. Sorry OP, I think it's you. Llan Heindell. What's up Llan? +10 I agree.
Valkreena Haederox Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.03.30 22:14:00 - [14] - Quote He's not claiming it's not him. But if the game is giving some people motion sickness, than CCP ought to make it possible to at least reduce the effects that are causing it. No reason to alienate people over a medical condition they didn't choose to get.
Banjo Hero BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 71	Posted - 2013.03.30 22:25:00 - [15] - Quote You think that's bad? Try riding shotgun in an LAV. JAYsus! The passenger seat in those things is like going on Mister Toad's Wild Ride while on acid and guzzling Jagermeister. Okay, it might not be all THAT bad, but, still, it's kind of disorienting. In all seriousness, though, I've never even noticed the tunnel-vision effect the OP is referring to, myself. Like, not that I'm not bothered by it; I simply wasn't aware of it at all. Are there many people who have problems with this? Maybe it should be attenuated somewhat, if it's that extreme.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 267	Posted - 2013.03.30 23:14:00 - [16] - Quote A matter of personal experience. To me it gives the feel that I'm beginning to lean forward to gain momentum.
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 209	Posted - 2013.03.31 00:06:00 - [17] - Quote Regardless of it it's rare or not, some people do experience motion sickness, and I would argue that developers should do what they can to make the game as available as possible. I'm told they need to work on the names and HP bars, too, because people with red/green color blindness are having trouble telling friend from enemy.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1835	Posted - 2013.03.31 00:46:00 - [18] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: Regardless of it it's rare or not, some people do experience motion sickness, and I would argue that developers should do what they can to make the game as available as possible. I'm told they need to work on the names and HP bars, too, because people with red/green color blindness are having trouble telling friend from enemy. Anyone who has motion sickness should probably stay away from the game. If the OP gets dizzy just from tunnel vision, I hate to see how he gets when he boards an LAV or a dropship. If anything, I get disoriented trying to figure out which way I'm facing when I respawn.
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD 290	Posted - 2013.03.31 01:21:00 - [19] - Quote Angry Birds does not have this problem to the best of my knowledge. Enjoy it, Kitten.
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.03.31 01:45:00 - [20] - Quote Llan Heindell wrote: Never felt sick while sprinting. Sorry OP, I think it's you. Llan Heindell. Staggering. It's something I don't experience personally so the problem doesn't exist. That aside can't say it's something I've noticed before, the sway. The zooming had struck me as slightly odd now and then but otherwise hadn't noticed it all that much. I wouldn't think it's removal would be a dramatic shift in how things play out and if it mitigates these issues for some people slightly it'd probably be worth it. I wouldn't think sway would be that much of a gamechanger if removed either, chief limitation of sprinting has always been viewpoint locked in the direction of your movement. Hell, even CoF goes from blooming to stable when you stop sprinting in a snap of the fingers. If you want to lower the viability of sprinting then immediately engaging that'd be what you'd change to penalise it rather than using sway to do so. But as an aside to OP I do know that the zoom is diminished when running with a sidearm (at least, does for scramblers), by extension it might reduce some of the swaying also. Might help a little in the meantime.



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