my surya has 11217 armor and 2530 shields, I went up against an assault forge gun, when my shields were completely down, nobody else shot at me but him, his assault forge gun took out about 4592 hp out of my tank in 3 seconds, I don't believe that is right, 1st of all something that can shoot that rapidly should NOT be able to do that much damage even with all the damage mods, its ridiculous. just 2 shots took out more than half of 11217 armor, just 2 shots, how is this not OP? regardless of damage mods with it, it shouldn't be able to do that much damage especially since it has a very quick charge up time. if it was a prototype I would understand that damage. but it was barely the 1st assault forge gun that is available, this is ridiculous.

11217 armor no shields
4592 hp taken out with a single shot (im guessing with damage mods) because I noticed that in those 2 shots I was taken down to less than half of my armor. plus that thing is even more powerful than the last prototype rail gun.

You are also talking about the best AV weapon (Forge Guns in general) and complaining that they were good against your tank? Have you ever tried to hit someone with a Forge Gun?

@Buster, an Assault Forge Gun with a Level 5 in Operations should be able to get 2 shots off in just over 3 seconds. Still not 4592, but a lot of damage.

He's claiming 4592 per shot though, using the level 2 weapon.

my surya has 11217 armor and 2530 shields, I went up against an assault forge gun, when my shields were completely down, nobody else shot at me but him, his assault forge gun took out about 4592 hp out of my tank in 3 seconds, I don't believe that is right, 1st of all something that can shoot that rapidly should NOT be able to do that much damage even with all the damage mods, its ridiculous. just 2 shots took out more than half of 11217 armor, just 2 shots, how is this not OP? regardless of damage mods with it, it shouldn't be able to do that much damage especially since it has a very quick charge up time. if it was a prototype I would understand that damage. but it was barely the 1st assault forge gun that is available, this is ridiculous.

11217 armor no shields
4592 hp taken out with a single shot (im guessing with damage mods) because I noticed that in those 2 shots I was taken down to less than half of my armor. plus that thing is even more powerful than the last prototype rail gun.

how would he know what kind of forge gun it was. Everyone leave this thread alone and let it get lost with the other stupid not well thought out posts

He's claiming 4592 per shot though, using the level 2 weapon.

wrong, it added up to that amount in 2 shots, and no there was nobody else shooting at me, he the rest of his team was on the front line across the map, and there were no av granades, he was too far to throw one at me

Actually, he does.



Bolded and underlined for clarity. he initially claims 3 seconds, then claims per shot. Also he identifies the gun as "barely the 1st assault forge gun"

He then goes on to mention that two shots took him down to less than half of his 11217 armor.

my surya has 11217 armor and 2530 shields, I went up against an assault forge gun, when my shields were completely down, nobody else shot at me but him, his assault forge gun took out about 4592 hp out of my tank in 3 seconds, I don't believe that is right, 1st of all something that can shoot that rapidly should NOT be able to do that much damage even with all the damage mods, its ridiculous. just 2 shots took out more than half of 11217 armor, just 2 shots, how is this not OP? regardless of damage mods with it, it shouldn't be able to do that much damage especially since it has a very quick charge up time. if it was a prototype I would understand that damage. but it was barely the 1st assault forge gun that is available, this is ridiculous.

11217 armor no shields
4592 hp taken out with a single shot (im guessing with damage mods) because I noticed that in those 2 shots I was taken down to less than half of my armor. plus that thing is even more powerful than the last prototype rail gun.

how would he know what kind of forge gun it was. Everyone leave this thread alone and let it get lost with the other stupid not well thought out posts

As a fellow tanker, I feel your pain. I was two shotted once by the 37k isk forge gun and I had 4.7k shields and close to 60% resists.

I Agree that the simple FGs should not deal more damage than a proto railgun. Each railgun should deal more damage than the equivalent level FG, simply because a small handheld device should not be able to pack a bigger punch than something much bigger than it and supplied by more power (the tank).

**** you

real mature

the ratio of vehicle drivers to assaulters in this game is 4-1

So there's 4 times as many vehicle drivers as assaulters?

He fired 2 shots and still only barely cross the halfway mark of your tank's ability to survive that damage?

Sounds like it's underpowered to me.

Buff tanks CCP, av is getting better thanks are staying same.

Really? I think the Tanker crowd is getting a taste of their own medicine. It was not 2 weeks ago that I would be in instant games that were absolutely dominated by Tanks. They would sit on spawn points and slaughter teams before they could organize offensives and would use terrain to hide from the starter swarm launchers that were desperatly thrown at them. As such I began investing in AV weaponry in both Grenades and Forge Guns, and with similar experiences I bet many others did as well.

Now when I see a Tank, I know what kind of tank it is (armour -vs- shield, militia -vs- standard -vs- advanced) and how I am going to go about attacking it. I have seen teammates doing the same, and have seen more than 3 Forge Guns working together when there are Tanks on the field for extended periods of time. It isn't that AV is becoming more powerful, or that Tanks are getting weaker, you are playing against smarter/organized opponents that are using AV more effectively.

Your Tank shouldn't be able to motor boat an entire team, regardless of your ISK and SP investments.

the last part isn't true, tanks are built and meant to take on entire teams and other vehicle, they do better with support, and a whole team running AV to kill us off is how it should be NOT a single AV player on the enemy team

Thank you for the surya tanks. they are delicious.

Prototype forge guns eat them.

100k sp my ass you got hit by a phenomenal gunner with a cheaper fit. get over it.

I routinely splash 2 mil ISK tanks solo. It isnt that hard when I wait till you are busy shooting someone else.

Assault forge guns are the training wheels. the ishukone assault and grimlock guristas guns are the ones you need to soil yourself over.

I find your assertion that tanks should take an entire team laughable. you have 4 mil SP in HAVs? I have six million SP in heavy AV fits to include the needed armor support skills, weapon skills and such. I find your whine amusing when my 350,000 per fit heavy suit dies to a bare fraction of what your tank can soak up.

This thread is a whine. You want to drive your fancy tank?

I want to blow it up. Suck it up.

Thank you for the surya tanks. they are delicious.

Prototype forge guns eat them.

100k sp my ass you got hit by a phenomenal gunner with a cheaper fit. get over it.

I routinely splash 2 mil ISK tanks solo. It isnt that hard when I wait till you are busy shooting someone else.

Assault forge guns are the training wheels. the ishukone assault and grimlock guristas guns are the ones you need to soil yourself over.

I find your assertion that tanks should take an entire team laughable. you have 4 mil SP in HAVs? I have six million SP in heavy AV fits to include the needed armor support skills, weapon skills and such. I find your whine amusing when my 350,000 per fit heavy suit dies to a bare fraction of what your tank can soak up.

This thread is a whine. You want to drive your fancy tank?

I want to blow it up. Suck it up.