DUST Search - Unreal vs. PFBHz tonight at 10 PM EDT

Free Beers wrote:

Sontie wrote:

I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics.

On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value.

All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp.

Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game.

If you watch the match and know how good PFB really is you will notice that they didn't expect much of a fight. They treated it like a pub fight which is evident when they went for the redline instead of holding 2 objectives on that map.

PFB admitted they didnt' expect the match they got which means the result was much closer then is should have been.

unreal just another group of pub-kid-try-hards when it comes to corp battles. It's obvious by unreal's pub strategy of zerging which doesn't work against good players and teams.

Also E'cplise owes PFB an apology for going negative at 8-14 while rolling in proto/officer gear. Roll

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HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2327	Posted - 2013.03.29 08:56:00 - [91] - Quote Unreal got a great lesson if they are smart enough to learn from it. Great video! Rookies
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 329	Posted - 2013.03.29 08:59:00 - [92] - Quote Congrats on the win and thanks for the video, it was an intense and informative watch.
Mr Gloo Gloo What The French CRONOS. 41	Posted - 2013.03.29 09:12:00 - [93] - Quote What an Unreal mistake with the OB at 13.45 ... They could have win it if it was on C and not just behind... Well done to both corps.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2013.03.29 10:36:00 - [94] - Quote znignflo72 wrote: vid is live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaD7sXaHFgs lots of mistakes in that video that can only be realised in hindsight, good match though :) that should gunner should have dropped behind those guys on the stairs on A so many times!
Zhar Ptitsaa The Red Guards 27	Posted - 2013.03.29 11:04:00 - [95] - Quote http://gnn.enjin.com/classifieds/m/7595933/viewthread/6419007-pfbhz-vs-unreal-results Let me know if you want anything adding/changing or if i wrote something wrong.
Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 105	Posted - 2013.03.29 11:04:00 - [96] - Quote A lot of the good players left unreal, and I dont think Unreal had their best players in that match. The score at the end proves it all. But nice match though.. And Eclipse went negative----- damn
The Medic Droid The Phoenix Federation 15	Posted - 2013.03.29 11:17:00 - [97] - Quote Well fought. :O
Freshticles Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 43	Posted - 2013.03.29 11:20:00 - [98] - Quote My E-Peen grows bigger.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2013.03.29 11:23:00 - [99] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: A lot of the good players left unreal, and I dont think Unreal had their best players in that match. The score at the end proves it all. But nice match though.. And Eclipse went negative----- damn I don't think that's a valid excuse for losing, they lost to a better team. I thought they had a nice thing going on the pipes but they wasn't very effective with that plan. they should have had lasers on the pipes, instead they had assault riffles which is a bad tactic. AR is good at range but those pipes are built for support. They were making good pushes for A but they kept pushing 1 flight of stairs and it became very predictable very fast. only 4 times did I see someone use the other flight of stairs on A, and even then was easily handled by the shotgun. if it was a HMG I don't think A would have been held for so long. I think after unreal got off the pipes, they didn't have any sort of plan (For A) and were just trying to get them with numbers on a very narrow stairwell with pfb on top with nades. poor display of nade use though, throwing nades when you couldn't see a marker. That cost the camera man a few times.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2013.03.29 11:25:00 - [100] - Quote duplicate

BelleMorte MORTIMOR Betaguards 0	Posted - 2013.03.29 11:27:00 - [101] - Quote Veritas Vitae wrote: Are they running from us by leaving the corp? Maybe they heard that my mass driver kills Madrugars...... lol i hada idiot try that to me once (did not work)
Traky78 What The French CRONOS. 117	Posted - 2013.03.29 12:28:00 - [102] - Quote Funny how some CORPS auto proclames #1 #2 and #3... Some of you guys have a short memory...
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 174	Posted - 2013.03.29 13:43:00 - [103] - Quote Class names: AV Hard Burst Hard Burstin Real Hard Fizzeh Hard Go Hard Going Hard on Teamwork Hard Killer Krins Hard Laser Hard Semi Hard lol...
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 248	Posted - 2013.03.29 13:52:00 - [104] - Quote Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote: light blade55 wrote: my money is on PFBHz wit Tryhard MVP and Slap destroying min 9 tanks Kreayshawn ftw
0 Try Harder Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 167	Posted - 2013.03.29 13:56:00 - [105] - Quote EnIgMa99 wrote: Kreayshawn ftw GEKs are OP, and are apparently better than Balocs =]
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 248	Posted - 2013.03.29 14:01:00 - [106] - Quote 0 Try Harder wrote: EnIgMa99 wrote: Kreayshawn ftw GEKs are OP, and are apparently better than Balocs =] good match well played tryhard.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 181	Posted - 2013.03.29 14:02:00 - [107] - Quote I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics. On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value. All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp. Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game.
Veritas Vitae Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 88	Posted - 2013.03.29 14:18:00 - [108] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Class names: AV Hard Burst Hard Burstin Real Hard Fizzeh Hard Go Hard Going Hard on Teamwork Hard Killer Krins Hard Laser Hard Semi Hard lol... Tryhard has the best loadout names doesn't he.
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 242	Posted - 2013.03.29 14:45:00 - [109] - Quote Sontie wrote: I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics. On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value. All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp. Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game. Always nice to see a ex PFBHz trial and forum warrior passing judgement based on a video. If you are so confidant in our lack of tactics why don't you teach us a lesson and put some ISK on the line while you're at it?
Protoman Is God Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:04:00 - [110] - Quote Sontie wrote: I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics. On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value. All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp. Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game. Imperfects are still undefeated 16v16.

Alina Heart DIOS EX. 17	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:05:00 - [111] - Quote Jaiden Longshot wrote: Sontie wrote: I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics. On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value. All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp. Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game. Always nice to see a ex PFBHz trial and forum warrior passing judgement based on a video. If you are so confidant in our lack of tactics why don't you teach us a lesson and put some ISK on the line while you're at it? lol Calm down, you can't take a little criticism? 90% of his post was giving you guys props. Chill, not everything's a competition.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 181	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:09:00 - [112] - Quote Just expressing what I saw. I thought I was being helpful, actually. No need to get all up in arms. I have publicly stated that PFBHz are the best corp in Dust many times, and I stand by that. But everyone has room for improvement. I was looking at the radar more than watch Tryhard fight. He's good but I can't learn anything from watching him. I was interested in the tactics used by both corps. Kinda wish one of you guys would have spent the entire match looking at the map, and recorded it. Would have been really interesting. As for the challenge, V4H would only get trounced. We don't have enough skilled players to do more than lose eff tons of isk to you. Corp battling you guys would serve no purpose other than to teach my guys how far they have to go to compete with the likes of you. As it stands, a lot of your guys could solo an entire squad of ours... so tactics are out the window.
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 242	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:15:00 - [113] - Quote Alina Heart wrote: Jaiden Longshot wrote: Sontie wrote: I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics. On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value. All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp. Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game. Always nice to see a ex PFBHz trial and forum warrior passing judgement based on a video. If you are so confidant in our lack of tactics why don't you teach us a lesson and put some ISK on the line while you're at it? lol Calm down, you can't take a little criticism? 90% of his post was giving you guys props. Chill, not everything's a competition. Are you the forum smack talk police or just defending a butt hurt ex-trial member's backseat driving?
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 370	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:20:00 - [114] - Quote Jaiden Longshot wrote: Sontie wrote: I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics. On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value. All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp. Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game. Always nice to see a ex PFBHz trial and forum warrior passing judgement based on a video. If you are so confidant in our lack of tactics why don't you teach us a lesson and put some ISK on the line while you're at it? all objectives have their weakness. saying 1 is harder to get than the other is nonsense so don't listen to him. hindsight always shows holes.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1255	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:33:00 - [115] - Quote Sontie wrote: I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics. On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value. All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp. Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game. If you watch the match and know how good PFB really is you will notice that they didn't expect much of a fight. They treated it like a pub fight which is evident when they went for the redline instead of holding 2 objectives on that map. PFB admitted they didnt' expect the match they got which means the result was much closer then is should have been. unreal just another group of pub-kid-try-hards when it comes to corp battles. It's obvious by unreal's pub strategy of zerging which doesn't work against good players and teams. Also E'cplise owes PFB an apology for going negative at 8-14 while rolling in proto/officer gear.
light blade55 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:44:00 - [116] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Sontie wrote: I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics. On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value. All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp. Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game. If you watch the match and know how good PFB really is you will notice that they didn't expect much of a fight. They treated it like a pub fight which is evident when they went for the redline instead of holding 2 objectives on that map. PFB admitted they didnt' expect the match they got which means the result was much closer then is should have been. unreal just another group of pub-kid-try-hards when it comes to corp battles. It's obvious by unreal's pub strategy of zerging which doesn't work against good players and teams. Also E'cplise owes PFB an apology for going negative at 8-14 while rolling in proto/officer gear. he also owes imperfects an apology seeing on how all he does is trash talk but wen they fought a real corp they learned there place real quick
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 123	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:51:00 - [117] - Quote Sontie wrote: Just expressing what I saw. I thought I was being helpful, actually. No need to get all up in arms. I have publicly stated that PFBHz are the best corp in Dust many times, and I stand by that. But everyone has room for improvement. I was looking at the radar more than watch Tryhard fight. He's good but I can't learn anything from watching him. I was interested in the tactics used by both corps. Kinda wish one of you guys would have spent the entire match looking at the map, and recorded it. Would have been really interesting. As for the challenge, V4H would only get trounced. We don't have enough skilled players to do more than lose eff tons of isk to you. Corp battling you guys would serve no purpose other than to teach my guys how far they have to go to compete with the likes of you. As it stands, a lot of your guys could solo an entire squad of ours... so tactics are out the window. While it's true V4H still has a long ways to go, it can be said that you guys have also already come a long way from just a couple months ago. Sometimes playing and losing teaches you a lot more than just "we have a long way to go." It also gives you a first hand experience of the type of teamwork and game play that is required to achieve that level, as well as new ideas of what you can do better and improve on. Which is why it blows my mind that there aren't more corps out there that are willing to take a lickin to learn a lesson.
slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 522	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:54:00 - [118] - Quote EnIgMa99 wrote: 0 Try Harder wrote: EnIgMa99 wrote: Kreayshawn ftw GEKs are OP, and are apparently better than Balocs =] good match well played tryhard. This tryhard is 1 cup, the tryhard in the match is Z
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1255	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:57:00 - [119] - Quote light blade55 wrote: he also owes imperfects an apology seeing on how all he does is trash talk but wen they fought a real corp they learned there place real quick losing to hellstorm didn't shut him up I dont expect this to either. I love how he sends IE members recruitment love letters to recruit them. We are making a scarp book of all of them because they are so sweet. who wants to join unreal when most of the good players have left and its just a matter of time before Ecplise rage quits dust for the 5th time.
znignflo72 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2013.03.29 16:21:00 - [120] - Quote Sontie wrote: I saw a LOT of solo running on the PFBHz side while Unreal made more use of concerted pushes and team tactics. I think the bunnies, being such strong individual killers, have developed bad habits on squad level tactics. On that map, the team that takes B takes the win. It's very easy to overwatch C from B, while A has relatively low strategic value. All in all, I'm impressed with Unreal. We all know PFBHz are world class. By doing so well against them, Unreal showed that they too are a strong corp. Now, when corp battles are expanded, team and squad level tactics will become much more important. Then we will have to find out all over again who are the best corps and who just has good gun game. Did you not watch the C retake? All organized and planned, and everyone in unreal was using officer weapons. Without those damage modded up balacs it wouldn't have been as close.



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