|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
1109
   |
Posted - 2013.03.27 22:24:00 -
[1] - Quote
I approve.
The folks who want a refund but also want to keep everything they bought with it have more greed than logic.
Any refund would be contingent upon surrendering the product.
Who would consider asking for a refund on a car and demanding that they get to keep it?
I mean really? Who in their right mind thinks a business can operate this way?
So if someone wants to force a refund, let them. But then they return everything they purchased with that Aurum.
That means a wipe of all boosted SP and all BPO's and any reminding BPC's. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
1109
|
Posted - 2013.03.28 00:25:00 -
[2] - Quote
Commercially Released wrote:Skihids wrote:I approve.
The folks who want a refund but also want to keep everything they bought with it have more greed than logic.
Any refund would be contingent upon surrendering the product.
Who would consider asking for a refund on a car and demanding that they get to keep it?
I mean really? Who in their right mind thinks a business can operate this way?
So if someone wants to force a refund, let them. But then they return everything they purchased with that Aurum.
That means a wipe of all boosted SP and all BPO's and any reminding BPC's. Greed huh? Who is the greedy one in truth? The person who wants all of what they paid for? Or the person who wants another person not to get what they paid for? It doesn't hurt you at all, this is entirely an issue between early adopters (and current gamestop customers) and CCP. At the end of the day there are plenty who can afford to buy more anyway. This is only about making a few people feel better because they had to pay more to do it. Irony alert, people are promoting pay to win as a way to preserve fairness!
I am an early adopter, having been here from early closed beta.
What I don't want is to be dictated to by another early adopter. I bought bonus SP with Aurum and my time, and I really don't want to be forced to spend both all over again. Unless you can somehow refund all the time I spent making my cap for several weeks? No? I didn't think so.
I've ground up from scratch five times now and as everyone is fond of pointing out the current build is not terribly exciting. If I'm looking at another reset I'll just stop right now because I have a lot more things to do with 10-15 hours a week.
I don't care which way you want to go, but ont drag me with you. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
1110
|
Posted - 2013.03.28 00:55:00 -
[3] - Quote
Garrett Blacknova wrote:Terms of purchase and terms of use are separate. Terms of purchase can't be changed after the fact, and include the advertising text used to sell the product at the time of purchase. If the text in the item description in the PS Store included reference to something, that particular inclusion is a legal obligation for the seller. When purchasing - BEFORE agreeing to terms of use, the terms of purchase included mention of the Aurum and items being reset at the commercial release.
That being said, I had a suggestion in another thread which I think will be the best of both worlds.
No SP reset. No ISK reset. No Booster reset. Full refund of all purchased non-Booster gear on commercial release.
This means EVERYTHING you own other than Boosters is sold back to the store at cost price. If you bought an item that wasn't a Booster with AUR, you get back the amount of AUR you spent on it. If you bought something that wasn't a booster with ISK, you get the ISK back. Boosters that were purchased as part of a game pack AREN'T refunded, but you keep all your SP, so you still have the EFFECT of that Booster. Any items awarded by these packs are refunded.
People who have been farming ISK don't get penalised by a reset. People who bought the Merc Pack and were advised they'd have all their stuff reset get it. People who spent Aurum on Boosters don't have to be reset and have to re-use their Boosters.
Best of all worlds, imo.
You would still have people wanting their boosters back too on that technicality, but call that partial refund a third option and I'm good with it. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
1110
|
Posted - 2013.03.28 16:27:00 -
[4] - Quote
King Kobrah wrote:If the pack clearly said it would be refunded upon commercial release, they have a legal and moral obligation to fulfill that part of the deal, which is something we agreed to when we paid 20 dollars. They can't just randomly decide to go back on it, that's blatantly illegal and borderline stealing.
CCP refunded every character wipe.
The obvious intention was to restore you to the starting condition with a new character and all your purchases.
This is my second go around with my three merc pack boosters under that system.
The original plan was a final wipe at commercial release so the verbiage and intent matched.
Later CCP decided to remove the last wipe, and they told us in big bold letters that this was it, Every choice we made from here on out matters!
That implied no more refunds.
Now if you don't like that and you demand no change in the refund language, CCP is under no obligation to be held to their decision not to wipe your character. After all, that was not a legaly binding decision and was always hedged anyway.
So go ahead and demand the old agreement be upheld, that is your right. Just don't expect to escape the wipe that comes with the old agreement.
I just ask that I not be obligated to follow you in your choice. I like many others had my eyes open and fully accepted he change in plans. |
|
|
| |
|