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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.27 19:18:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:
I agree. CCP did say there will be no more SP resets for certain and everyone seems to agree to that. The only thing that left on the table to discuss as a possibility is a possible SP reallocation (reimbursement of SP). Not sure about the assets though.
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This is definitely what I heard. Or else I wouldn't have wasted a single moment reaching cap in this game every week. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.27 19:31:00 -
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Zlocha wrote:In my opinion there wont be any refunds. Since it got in open beta they said that there will not be any more resets. No SP resets, no AUR resets and no asset resets. And this is the way like it should be i really dont want to start from scratch so i save some AUR spent wrong.
If I'm not keeping my assets, Isk, and SP then I'll be playing this game about 1/10th as much and definitely not paying for another aurum.
I don't have time to level one character twice in a game. Spent way too much time already :( |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.27 19:34:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
I agree. CCP did say there will be no more SP resets for certain and everyone seems to agree to that. The only thing that left on the table to discuss as a possibility is a possible SP reallocation (reimbursement of SP). Not sure about the assets though.
This is definitely what I heard. Or else I wouldn't have wasted a single moment reaching cap in this game every week. I agree, and I think most people agree. However, CCP is on record as saying that even though they didn't/don't plan to do an SP reset, they have reserved the right to in the case of some catastrophic event. I'd consider a bunch of players legally demanding their aurum back (which effects SP) as potentially "catastrophic". I don't want them to reset SP (or a refund), but I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen because of this.
They had a statement saying there would not be any resets of any kind, till release, unless something catastrophic happened.
~In which case it would ONLY be a full SP refund, to be reallocated into newly designed skill trees.
Nothing about wiping Aur, assets, ISK, SP , or refunding AUR, or refunding aur (while wiping SP, ISK, assets, etc).
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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2013.03.27 19:45:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote:
Here is the direct quote:
"We currently have no plans to reset your characters' skill points to a state where they are equivalent to a newly created character, barring something catastrophic."
So yes, if something catastrophic happens, they can completely wipe SP.
Reset =/= wipe. In any other MMO type games you refer to respecing as resetting your skill points. Not 'deleting' them from use ever again. If we have to play the parse every word CCP ever says, then there's no point listening to them at all. Then words clarifying words will come months later and themselves be ambiguous. How can anyone trust that to make appropriate decisions with their time or money? |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2013.03.27 19:56:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Sete Clifton wrote:
Here is the direct quote:
"We currently have no plans to reset your characters' skill points to a state where they are equivalent to a newly created character, barring something catastrophic."
So yes, if something catastrophic happens, they can completely wipe SP.
Reset =/= wipe. In any other MMO type games you refer to respecing as resetting your skill points. Not 'deleting' them from use ever again. If we have to play the parse every word CCP ever says, then there's no point listening to them at all. Then words clarifying words will come months later and themselves be ambiguous. How can anyone trust that to make appropriate decisions with their time or money? Ughh we're not talking simple SP reset here, this is a complete character wipe. Assets, SP, Scores, even your name, it all gets deleted, that's how it's been done so far. You'de only get to keep event items and Aur.
This quote says:
"We currently have no plans to reset your characters' skill points to a state where they are equivalent to a newly created character, barring something catastrophic."
Resetting my character's SP (retains the character),
to a state equal to having created a new character (No longer having any SP allocated into any skill),
will only happen if there is something catastrophic.
See? Assets are are not part of this, nor BPO, Nor ISK, Nor character name.
The only grey area (which would be scummy at best) is what happens to the SP that is taken out of your skills.
The ONLY thing stated here for logical certainty is that they MAY have to remove SP from skills
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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:00:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Sete Clifton wrote:
Here is the direct quote:
"We currently have no plans to reset your characters' skill points to a state where they are equivalent to a newly created character, barring something catastrophic."
So yes, if something catastrophic happens, they can completely wipe SP.
Reset =/= wipe. In any other MMO type games you refer to respecing as resetting your skill points. Not 'deleting' them from use ever again. If we have to play the parse every word CCP ever says, then there's no point listening to them at all. Then words clarifying words will come months later and themselves be ambiguous. How can anyone trust that to make appropriate decisions with their time or money? I realize the difference. However, they have made the distinction between a wipe/reset and a reallocation. This quote was a direct response to people asking if they were going to lose their SP like in previous beta build resets when the game launched.
If their term reset means to wipe all player data including name isk and assets, then it was used incorrectly in conjunction with the sentence "to reset your characters' skill points to a state where they are equivalent to a newly created character".
So on which account were they wrong? |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:45:00 -
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Here's the thing. Lets say CCP has the flexibility (due to miscommunication, misleading, or ambiguous quotes) to do literally whatever they want. And practically I'm sure they do.
Why should they choose NOT to reset anything?
Lets be honest. Who believes that the core player-base of this game is not already playing it? Who really thinks that re-branding same game from "beta" to "release" will magically cause an massive influx of curious new players? Anyone interested by now, or by that point will have already downloaded, tested the game, and determined it's merits and potential.
Therefore who would be most enraged by doing a hard-reset of characters, SP (non-reallocative), ISK, assets, BPOs, etc?
The core player-base, which at that point will virtually be everyone who will be playing it.
Seems like a bad idea from a company PR standpoint to screw people like that: People who are their primary source of income, support, and advertising.
Who would such a measure appease? The illusive and perhaps nonexistent few new, causal CoD come-overs who flow in and out of games like a passing cool breeze. But it won't run a wind farm. |
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