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General Tiberius1 wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Moonracer2000 wrote:

It is definitely a delicate situation for CCP to handle.
They did change the terms of merc pack sales around open beta (to remove any mention of reset on release), so if they reset it will probably only be for closed beta sales (still quite a bit).

A total reset would be a nightmare:
-people that bought militia BPOs when they were super cheap would be angry.
-people that have been grinding SP every day since open beta would be angry.
-people that have been stockpiling ISK would be angry.
-the reset would occur right as Planetary Conquest begins
- the only benefit might be for new players who join in on release to not be up against proto suits

A reset of just merc pack and AUR purchases from before the sales agreement change would also cause problems:
-people not included would feel it is unfair
-if the reset/refund doesn't effect SP people will be essentially getting free boosters (who used their AUR for that)
-if items bought with AUR weren't tracked and removed properly (or already used) it could lead to more complaints.

Either way CCP would lose a lot of potential future sales. Sure the merc packs sold would not cause a loss (they are virtual items, free to restore) but that would also mean fewer merc packs and AUR people would buy again in the near future.

I bought two merc packs before open beta and personally would rather support the game than make demands on a technicality. As long as there is no SP wipe or character reset, I feel I put my AUR and 30 day boosters to use as intended.

So basically what you're saying is that CCP is screwed no matter which route they take. Appease the pro-refund folks and you pee off those who see it as unfair for those who didn't invest any AUR and create a problem with the Dust economy and ultimately nearly kill Dust (which is really, really bad). Appease the anti-refund folks and you end up with a bunch of closed-beta players wanting to file a lawsuit on the company which would result in the loss of revenue needed to sustain Dust.

Wow, there is no solution to this.

yeah, that refund clause in the closed beta merc packs has been screenshotted by several people, i see no easy solution here


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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2166	Posted - 2013.03.27 18:51:00 - [1] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Moonracer2000 wrote: It is definitely a delicate situation for CCP to handle. They did change the terms of merc pack sales around open beta (to remove any mention of reset on release), so if they reset it will probably only be for closed beta sales (still quite a bit). A total reset would be a nightmare: -people that bought militia BPOs when they were super cheap would be angry. -people that have been grinding SP every day since open beta would be angry. -people that have been stockpiling ISK would be angry. -the reset would occur right as Planetary Conquest begins - the only benefit might be for new players who join in on release to not be up against proto suits A reset of just merc pack and AUR purchases from before the sales agreement change would also cause problems: -people not included would feel it is unfair -if the reset/refund doesn't effect SP people will be essentially getting free boosters (who used their AUR for that) -if items bought with AUR weren't tracked and removed properly (or already used) it could lead to more complaints. Either way CCP would lose a lot of potential future sales. Sure the merc packs sold would not cause a loss (they are virtual items, free to restore) but that would also mean fewer merc packs and AUR people would buy again in the near future. I bought two merc packs before open beta and personally would rather support the game than make demands on a technicality. As long as there is no SP wipe or character reset, I feel I put my AUR and 30 day boosters to use as intended. So basically what you're saying is that CCP is screwed no matter which route they take. Appease the pro-refund folks and you pee off those who see it as unfair for those who didn't invest any AUR and create a problem with the Dust economy and ultimately nearly kill Dust (which is really, really bad). Appease the anti-refund folks and you end up with a bunch of closed-beta players wanting to file a lawsuit on the company which would result in the loss of revenue needed to sustain Dust. Wow, there is no solution to this. yeah, that refund clause in the closed beta merc packs has been screenshotted by several people, i see no easy solution here Not an EASY solution, but there is a solution. Boosters from the Merc Pack DON'T get refunded. Boosters bought with Aurum (whether via Merc Pack or otherwise) DON'T get refunded. ALL gear is refunded, whether purchased with Aurum or ISK. SP isn't affected, and the only people with a complaint are the ones who got cheap AUR gear before the price hike, and to be fair, even though I got a lot of extra stuff because of it, I don't have a problem with being reset because the complaint about us getting to keep the gear was more valid than our complaints about losing it would be. ISK farmers won't be affected, because they keep their ISK, and get their money back from whatever they bought with it, even though they don't get to keep the gear itself.