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Gunner Nightingale
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Posted - 2013.03.25 15:40:00 -
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Dang Dusters just went legit !!
All jokes aside good piece, glad you said it. The scapegoating btw totally true, i was going to write an op ed to this because it got me so furious but then the comments section gave me some hope that the world isnt populated by a bunch of blithering idiots.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/crackdown-urged-violent-games-lanza-report-article-1.1292402
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Posted - 2013.03.25 22:16:00 -
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In b4 Dark cloud scapegoats the whole thing on (typical american).  |
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Posted - 2013.03.25 23:51:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Dusters, you need to publicly name the source of this attack and smear so the situation can be dealt with in a transparent fashion. There are too many hands in the pot right now and the community needs to know where this came from. I think this would be ineffective... If anything, it would make them just more likely to mask who they are by creating a fake email account, a fake DUST account, etc. It's awful that these things happen, but I'm glad that EVE and DUST have such a great community that support those who have been targeted.
Ineffective in getting rid of the individual perhaps, but sending a strong message that this will basically result in so much community backlash that your effectively persona non grata yea i think that more than warrants it and tells everyone in a unified voice this just wont stand.
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Posted - 2013.03.25 23:58:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Cyberstalking? LMAO
If you don't want people accessing your personal information, maybe you shouldn't put it on the internet in the first place?
So anything goes? Thats really your stance dont make information public because somebody in a game space may decide to take it too far and use it to harass you, target you, bully you or otherwise try to make your life hell just for the hell of "metagame"
Just because you have access to publically made information doesn't mean its okay to act like an ogre.
Its like having access to a country club membership roster where address and numbers are readily available and you going to their home and littering all over it and crank calling them because you couldn't move past a defeat on the course. And you defend your vulgar actions by saying well he shouldnt have come here because we know everyones address and should expect that i will act like a childish toddler.
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:09:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:WAAAH SOME PEOPLE ON DUST FOUND MY FACEBOOK WAT EVAR WILL I DO?????
this is the price you pay for putting your personal information on public websites. The offenders in this case did nothing wrong and simply accessed information that was already laid out for them.
also, good job at trying to call out names Kain, kind of hypocritical to talk against cyberstalking, and then call out two names and urge the community to do the exact same thing you're trying to condemn. What a joke.
Using two names of fictious avatars that were targeted by a third which is basically a matter of record(we all know this to be the case) is different
Actively going beyond the confines of a game space to use information to leverage in game rivalries simply crosses a line, the fact that you cant see that gives me pause about the sanity of your mindset.
Moreover the strawman arguement that public information is grounds to harass or diminish someone is beyond ludacris.
Lastly you understand the false equivalency of what kane said and what your are saying. They are not even remotely in the same ballpark the fact you would make it suggests either
a. You are woefully ignorant, crass and a certain kind of creton
b. trying to be purposefully divisive and intend to create a flame war.
I for one have no intention of escalating the flames here if you simply can't see how utterly wrong your line of thinking is then i feel sorry for you and everyone that has the burden of knowing you IRL. |
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:20:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Sir Meode wrote:
Naming and shaming will only lead to a witch hunt and is not what this matter needs, Im sure CCP will deal with it in there own way and depending on how severe the situation, contact the relevent authorities.
Wrong, the witch hunt is here. Witch hunts occur when not all the facts are know. Right now Dusters is looking like McCarthy with this hidden list of horrible deeds and an unidentified attacker. For all we know Dusters could be the source just as it was for the personal attacks on Jenza and Cerebral Wolf early in it's existence. The truth must out. it is not our job as the players to do this, drop it kain, this is for CCP and the relevant law agencies of the people affected to deal with
Perhaps not, i agree to the extent that this should be sent to CCP and i do hope Dusters has done so and acknowledges it, personally i would like to see a comment from a GM saying that they have been made aware of the situation and are further looking into it.
Otherwise while the piece was well timed and needed to be written. It in itself has left open to speculation and rumor. That in turn leads to opportunists to finger point and "metagame" the discourse in their favor. Already i counted at least one shot across the bow in this thread.
People make assumptions and are quick to draw their own conclusions. Thats the fallout from something like this and thats the part dusters needs to address, you cant say its about journalistic integrity and then leave the base to its own devices and begin the smear campaign after the fact.
Unless that was the aim the whole time to stir up gossip and rumor. (which i whole heartedly believe is not the case) I like to believe the aim of this articles was to separate real life from game funny how its now having secondary effects in game as well. If the purpose is to stay neutral, report only facts and not gossip you must not only not engage in it but actively ensure the truth is made FULLY available to prevent gossip and rumor to fill the void.
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Posted - 2013.03.26 00:39:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:
Putting personal information on public websites and then getting butthurt that someone went and accessed that information is not only very legal, but there's nothing wrong with it.
If it becomes an issue of constant real life harassment and threats, there's real life laws to prevent that sort of behavior. The fact there's some stupid notion that the community needs to rally against these people is ridiculous.
Don't want your personal information compromised? Don't make it readily available on the biggest website ever created.
getting harassed in real life? file a police report.
I fail to see any circumstance where the community needs to get involved in some form of pathetic LOL ANTI CYBURBULYING campaign.
You fail to see it because you clearly you dont understand the divide between video game space and real life space. The fact that the internet blurs into one giant repository of information yours to do whatever you wish with shows the level of childish intellect you possess. Because only children see things as black and white and see it as well if you don't want me to use it dont let me get that info.
What if i have kids and their photos are there, you saying its okay for you to use them, would you write threatening messages and then post them in game or leak them to some site simply because they are available and in the end let the authorities handle it, no need for the community to say or do anything. Are you really saying the best course of action is to say and do nothing and hope the "proper" people handle the situation. I dont know what world you grew up in but i dont simply bury my head in the sand and hope it goes away
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
Now i cant solve Climate change, poverty, world hunger, darfur, european debt crisis, american financial regulations, gender inequality, homophobia and the rest of the worlds problems
but i can say that i dont want stupid stuff like this going on in a video game because some miscreant can't tell the difference between right and wrong no parent bothered to teach them that just because you CAN do something DOESN"T mean you SHOULD do something. |
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