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mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
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Posted - 2013.03.25 02:23:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:mollerz wrote:OK- one more addition- A4) There should be dif types of blade lengths tied to skill- May i introduce the (open beta model) s1ck3r Corp Xiphos R600? Looks like- THIS^Rocks like- THIS^ @ 0.33 and especially @ 1.11  Looks like a weapon fit for an Amarrian.
Actually, more minmatarish.
Amarrian is more of the persian persuasion.
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1756
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Posted - 2013.03.25 02:24:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:mollerz wrote:OK- one more addition- A4) There should be dif types of blade lengths tied to skill- May i introduce the (open beta model) s1ck3r Corp Xiphos R600? Looks like- THIS^Rocks like- THIS^ @ 0.33 and especially @ 1.11 Looks like a weapon fit for an Amarrian. Actually, more minmatarish. Amarrian is more of the persian persuasion.
Amarrians are Catholic. |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
96
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Posted - 2013.03.25 02:34:00 -
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In the spirit of the context of my example, christianity didn't exactly exist yet.
NEXT!
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
626
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Posted - 2013.03.25 02:44:00 -
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mollerz wrote:In the spirit of the context of my example, christianity didn't exactly exist yet.
NEXT!
Actually it would've just been forgotten in this universe |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
626
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Posted - 2013.03.25 02:48:00 -
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Also, I think I should have a limit to how much damage is deflected before the shield is broken and any shield generated should only defend from frontal fire |
Phantom RainV
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.03.25 04:38:00 -
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Like your idea V but I don't know about deflection maybe like a small shield made by the knives by energy or something running on stamina cause I agree with Travi our suits shouldn't be able to take are arm movement fast enough to deflect bullets (raiden) although besides that I like your idea nova knives need a improvement |
Phantom RainV
G I A N T
0
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Posted - 2013.03.25 04:43:00 -
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Plus helps out when your friend is gonna pick up a teammate you can be the shield as the person gets up and gets to cover |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
43
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Posted - 2013.03.25 07:31:00 -
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I will say yes
but only in a scout suit
would also make buying stamina packs more useful |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
384
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Posted - 2013.03.25 08:04:00 -
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Proto scout with 3 complex stamina mods deflecting a whole clip of HMG  |
Sigberct Amni
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
28
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Posted - 2013.03.25 08:14:00 -
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Phantom RainV wrote:Like your idea V but I don't know about deflection maybe like a small shield made by the knives by energy or something running on stamina cause I agree with Travi our suits shouldn't be able to take are arm movement fast enough to deflect bullets (raiden) although besides that I like your idea nova knives need a improvement
I don't know, I think scout suit arms furiously deflecting bullets with knives is far, far more cool than a stupid wrist shield. Even if the mechanic is functionally the same as carrying a shield.
Imagine the animation. Also, think of how kickass it would be to be the animator for this. **** yeah. |
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Keeriam Miray
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
4
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Posted - 2013.03.25 10:52:00 -
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Blind Nojoy wrote:
They will be useful when they introduce the Nova Lance into the game. And future horses..
Amarr Scout + Lance + Future Horse |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
430
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:26:00 -
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Melee defection, parry, would be nice. It should be chance or active block button based. chance would be better, due to issue of what button could be used for block.
Deflection of ranged, mechanic would be nice but don't think knife is right for it.
Difference in speed from modern bullets to dust weapons is few time greater then speed of baseball pitch then arrow speed. Arrow would need reflex time doubled, rifle bullet speed increased by about 12, sniper in dust 3x the rifle bullet. So reaction time improving 72x seems a bit much to get same odds as stopping a fast ball pitch with knife. Not even factoring in the 72x speed of arm motion or even faster reflexes to block with slower motion.
A shield to deflect seems reasonable. The nova knife is two knives in each hand, so a variant with one knife and a shield could work. Two knife would be the high damage variant.
Percentage based chance of absorbing or letting shot through and adding damage to heat meter when absorbed/defected could work. Shield goes down when it has taken enough hits till it dissipates the absorbed energy.
Riot shields would exist in new eden, but our weapons would probably shred them.
If a weapon is little used it should not be removed, so will use it. It is not game damaging to have under powered weapon, only over powered are a problem. Very skilled players may choose to use poor weapon for the challenge, would you rather have them use proto ar to pub stomp or mess with a weak but fun weapon? Buff weak weapons in there role, all weapons working equally well for everything or just being removed would remove variety.
Weapons that are hard to use should maybe have this listed in description. New players don't need to spec something they won't be able to use for 6 months. Since they have to train something else to use while they learn game, then go back to it. |
XV1
Bulldog Mining and Industrial Ltd
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
3
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:56:00 -
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I think that the biggest thing they need is a damage buff when you hit the target in the back. One of the few times a managed to sneak up on someone with them I only took the shields of a type 1 Logi, who turned and blasted my scout suit into dust in about 3 seconds after my hit lol. Not to say I have not gotten kills with them, have killed a scout or two that held still while I crept up behind them, but anything with HP mods or bigger than scout just take damage and move away shooting. |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:48:00 -
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I fully support this idea. We need better incentives for Nova Knives, I don't believe in making them a useless niche weapon. Currently, anything a Nova Knife can do, a shotgun or scrambler pistol does better. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
827
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Posted - 2013.03.30 20:51:00 -
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The knives don't really need a buff more than they're getting next build, tbh.
Last we heard, the knives are getting the ability to do their double swipe without being charged. You'll still be able to do more damage when you charge them as well.
Also... It's pretty damn viable to use them as a frontal weapon. It requires a decent amount of skill at strafing and cover use to close the distance, but anyone who says you can't just charge headlong into the battle is crazy. (Or hasn't done it enough to get good at it)
Actually.. That's not true. The only other buff the knives need, is a nerf to backwards movement speed on other suits :P It's a bit silly that walking backwards can make someone immune to melee attacks 90% of the time. Being able to run backwards at the same speed you run forwards is a little boggling! |
Spademan
Hydra II-Omega
0
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Posted - 2013.03.30 21:12:00 -
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Here's what ya do, when we get weapon customisation strap a laser sight and scope on that bad boy, all the buff you need for the knives.
In seriousness, I personally dont think the knives need a buff, they seem pretty well balanced in my opinion |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1829
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Posted - 2013.03.30 21:25:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Here's what ya do, when we get weapon customisation strap a laser sight and scope on that bad boy, all the buff you need for the knives.
In seriousness, I personally dont think the knives need a buff, they seem pretty well balanced in my opinion
Not entirely balanced, but close. The only issues they have is the lack of holding a charge while sprint as well as the limited charge time.
My feedback on the matter.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62939&find=unread |
Spademan
Hydra II-Omega
0
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Posted - 2013.03.30 21:39:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Spademan wrote:Here's what ya do, when we get weapon customisation strap a laser sight and scope on that bad boy, all the buff you need for the knives.
In seriousness, I personally dont think the knives need a buff, they seem pretty well balanced in my opinion Not entirely balanced, but close. The only issues they have is the lack of holding a charge while sprint as well as the limited charge time. My feedback on the matter. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62939&find=unread
Seems pretty reasonable, nothing that'd be troublesome. Should stil be able to shoot the knifer in the face with the pistol if i see them coming at me. |
Den-baron Tredje
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
0
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Posted - 2013.03.30 22:59:00 -
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Well this weapon is a secondary aka it's for when your primary runs out of bullets. Yes they will at some time soon^TM put in cloaking mods and they'll become more usefull.
But they do need a buff but do not turn them into a lightsaber -.- ....
Keeping with the secondary weapon idea maybe give people the ability to charge while sprinting ( yes you already can but it's a big ... ) and then give it some kind of range bonus. donno it' gonna be some kind of pulse it sends out but very very short range
( just so people don't think the merc suddenly gets longer arms -.- )
secondly make the nova knife skill increase this length with a percentage.
These should be able to compete with smg and pistols........ they are no where near...... |
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