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Chaos Carl
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.24 19:56:00 -
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ok just today i had a match were most of the enemy team was useing the lazer rilfe.
ya we lost so what winning/ losing dont really bug me.
but what im trying to get at here is the lazer is op has op can get never seen a weapon that can drop 5 ppl in one clip in any game ive played to date.
now before you get all rage happy saying your a noob you never used it before yes i have and i know what im talking about
plus added the fact of stacked weapon mods with it make for a deadly partner with this weapon
on its own not turely to powerful but it is still op as it stands
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Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:00:00 -
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don't proto snipers have 5 shots? 5 headshots, 5 kills, single clip.hell, depending on if they don't figure out to jump in time, you can get 7 kills off a full dropship with 1 clip of swarm launcher ammo. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1054
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:01:00 -
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Chaos Carl wrote:
but what im trying to get at here is the lazer is op has op can get never seen a weapon that can drop 5 ppl in one clip in any game ive played to date.
Then you haven't played halo 3
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
229
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:01:00 -
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I'm happy enough taking an AR against a laser. I know my tank isn't strong enough yet, but give me a few days and I'll have it up to the point where I'll gladly take on most lasers with my GEK, and win. I normally get the other guy down to 10% armor before dying. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
502
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:03:00 -
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Just wait until all of it is fixed, then there's going to be a lot of crying on the forums.
Until then you should stick to skirmish. Since there are only two maps right now and ambush is the only place where your stats are going to be recorded 100% of the time you're going to get a lot of lasers and snipers.
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
269
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:04:00 -
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Chaos Carl wrote:ok just today i had a match were most of the enemy team was useing the lazer rilfe.
ya we lost so what winning/ losing dont really bug me.
but what im trying to get at here is the lazer is op has op can get never seen a weapon that can drop 5 ppl in one clip in any game ive played to date.
now before you get all rage happy saying your a noob you never used it before yes i have and i know what im talking about
plus added the fact of stacked weapon mods with it make for a deadly partner with this weapon
on its own not turely to powerful but it is still op as it stands
advanced/proto HMG. that is all |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:05:00 -
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Chaos Carl wrote:ok just today i had a match were most of the enemy team was useing the lazer rilfe.
ya we lost so what winning/ losing dont really bug me.
but what im trying to get at here is the lazer is op has op can get never seen a weapon that can drop 5 ppl in one clip in any game ive played to date.
Weapons that can drop five people before reloading: Sniper rifle, HMG, forge gun, swarm launcher, mass driver, shotgun, laser rifle.
Chaos Carl wrote:
now before you get all rage happy saying your a noob you never used it before yes i have and i know what im talking about
Oh, well if you say that you know what you're talking about, I suppose I'll just believe you.
Chaos Carl wrote:
plus added the fact of stacked weapon mods with it make for a deadly partner with this weapon
on its own not turely to powerful but it is still op as it stands
Right.
So your argument is "the laser is OP but actually damage mods are OP and the laser is fine on its own but actually the laser is OP anyway".
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
622
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:05:00 -
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Only laser problem is the armor damage |
Nemo Bluntz
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:08:00 -
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Chaos Carl wrote:on its own not turely to powerful but it is still op as it stands
Use a laser rifle close range and try to say that **** again. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:09:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Only laser problem is the armor damage
I know, it could really use more. |
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
502
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:12:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Only laser problem is the armor damage
seriously man. Look at the resistance shields have against explosives compared to armour. Then look at the damage done to armour with a laser rifle when its supposed to be weak against it.
its a conspiracy I tells ya |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
38
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:58:00 -
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We all know the laser is op. yes it's nothing at close range but with that weapon if people get close to u ur doing something wrong... |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1167
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Posted - 2013.03.24 21:00:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Only laser problem is the armor damage seriously man. Look at the resistance shields have against explosives compared to armour. Then look at the damage done to armour with a laser rifle when its supposed to be weak against it. its a conspiracy I tells ya
Sure that would apply to it if not every 1 is running the shield variant dropsuits where you have only like 120 HP on the armor. And when you are gone into armor the laser heated up to compensate the penalty. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1000
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Posted - 2013.03.24 21:11:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Chaos Carl wrote:ok just today i had a match were most of the enemy team was useing the lazer rilfe.
ya we lost so what winning/ losing dont really bug me.
but what im trying to get at here is the lazer is op has op can get never seen a weapon that can drop 5 ppl in one clip in any game ive played to date.
now before you get all rage happy saying your a noob you never used it before yes i have and i know what im talking about
plus added the fact of stacked weapon mods with it make for a deadly partner with this weapon
on its own not turely to powerful but it is still op as it stands
advanced/proto HMG. that is all
what about HMG? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2114
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Posted - 2013.03.24 21:12:00 -
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I'm sorry, but until "ztimulated" is a word, there's no such thing as a "lazer rifle".
As for the actual point of the thread, Lasers (not "lazers") have a MINIMUM effective range. If you get close, they stop dealing significant damage. They're kind of like snipers, but without even the option of quick-scoping and praying.
Also, I've dropped 6 people in one clip with a Militia Shotgun on several occasions. I've seen HMG Heavies take down 7 or more players without reloading. ARs routinely go through more than 3 people between reloads. I've seen Snipers get a kill with each of their 5 shots. Lasers aren't unique in that respect in DUST. If you're good and/or have the right skills trained, and the enemy team let you play to your weapon's strengths, you can slaughter people fast. |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
104
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Posted - 2013.03.24 21:19:00 -
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I swear anything that kills anyone is OP now. And if you got a guy (or gal) running a Laser Rifle glass shield build and you cannot figure out how to take them down then your issue has nothing to do with the weapon sir. Indeed. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
1008
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Posted - 2013.03.24 21:19:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:We all know the laser is op. yes it's nothing at close range but with that weapon if people get close to u ur doing something wrong...
I second that...but even if they manage to get close to you, all that you have to do is switch to your smg and game over. Laser rife is cheezy |
Deluxe Edition
Like a Boss.
75
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Posted - 2013.03.24 21:31:00 -
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With the current spawning system and lack of cover its impossible to run up on a good laser rifle. Just because your bad with a laser rifle, doesn't mean the weapon isn't OP. The game has become trench warfare in ambush where a laser rifle shines above every weapon. |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
22
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Posted - 2013.03.24 21:33:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Weapons that can drop five people before reloading: Sniper rifle, HMG, forge gun, swarm launcher, mass driver, shotgun, laser rifle.
SMGs. Theoretically Scrambler pistols with maxed out skill (ammo) and things aligned right, but my current record is 3.
OP is a crybaby and needs to HTFU.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2116
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Posted - 2013.03.24 21:43:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:With the current spawning system and lack of cover its impossible to run up on a good laser rifle. Just because your bad with a laser rifle, doesn't mean the weapon isn't OP. The game has become trench warfare in ambush where a laser rifle shines above every weapon.
In Ambush, a couple of good players with Laser Rifles (or Sniper Rifles) can effectively control the match. If you have too many, though, the enemy can swamp you with ARs, SMGs and Shotguns, get into CQC, then start your team on the cycle of spawn and die instead of you doing it to them.
I've joined games where the enemy team is heavily unbalanced in favour of ranged firepower, and I've had times where I've joined a match with 70+ clones on the enemy team, and 40 - 50 on my team's side, and a single competent Shotgunner with Drop Uplinks has been all it took to break their dominance of the battlefield. |
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lowratehitman
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
417
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:26:00 -
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We all know if something is OP than EVERBODY would be using it. They can nerf it all they want,the main skills need to make it a usefull tool is the same skills that is needed to make the AR shine. Besides the investment in LR to get the proto, what amazes me is that any class can use the LR, so its not like the HMG.....learn to duck and cover,if you see laser beams in the distance,prepare. I have no prob out smarting most LR users. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
4
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:28:00 -
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Chaos Carl wrote:ok just today i had a match were most of the enemy team was useing the lazer rilfe.
ya we lost so what winning/ losing dont really bug me.
but what im trying to get at here is the lazer is op has op can get never seen a weapon that can drop 5 ppl in one clip in any game ive played to date.
now before you get all rage happy saying your a noob you never used it before yes i have and i know what im talking about
plus added the fact of stacked weapon mods with it make for a deadly partner with this weapon
on its own not turely to powerful but it is still op as it stands
come back in six months and talk about balance |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
133
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:32:00 -
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Chaos Carl wrote:ok just today i had a match were most of the enemy team was useing the lazer rilfe.
ya we lost so what winning/ losing dont really bug me.
but what im trying to get at here is the lazer is op has op can get never seen a weapon that can drop 5 ppl in one clip in any game ive played to date.
now before you get all rage happy saying your a noob you never used it before yes i have and i know what im talking about
plus added the fact of stacked weapon mods with it make for a deadly partner with this weapon
on its own not turely to powerful but it is still op as it stands
BF3, DUST 514, COD, and ARMA are all games that have guns that can kill 5 people in one clip. Is it ever easy to do that? no, does it happen? yes. The scenario your painting is the same as saying "my team got rolled by another team using all AR's therefore the AR must be OP because i saw one guy get a bunch of kills all at once with it" |
Ryu Targaryen
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:40:00 -
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My HMG can drop 5 people in a clip. >:D |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2116
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:45:00 -
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Just remembered one that nobody seems to have mentioned yet.
I got more than 10 kills with only one shot using a Precision Strike.
How's that for OP? |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
172
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:39:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I'm sorry, but until "ztimulated" is a word, there's no such thing as a "lazer rifle".
As for the actual point of the thread, Lasers (not "lazers") have a MINIMUM effective range. If you get close, they stop dealing significant damage. They're kind of like snipers, but without even the option of quick-scoping and praying.
Also, I've dropped 6 people in one clip with a Militia Shotgun on several occasions. I've seen HMG Heavies take down 7 or more players without reloading. ARs routinely go through more than 3 people between reloads. I've seen Snipers get a kill with each of their 5 shots. Lasers aren't unique in that respect in DUST. If you're good and/or have the right skills trained, and the enemy team let you play to your weapon's strengths, you can slaughter people fast.
Wow, logic and intelligence. I salute you.
To the rest of the various whiners: HTFU |
KaoticKrusader
D3LTA FORC3
Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.03.25 02:38:00 -
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The only issue with laser is its non-factor resistant against armor. Everybody can't be using it because you can't win a corp battle from the distance. With that said, I cannot wait for friendly fire  |
Kitten Commander
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2013.03.25 02:57:00 -
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Oh, just you wait till you have cloaked shotty scouts and then the toddlers on this board will throw a tantrum.
Given the amount of grief threads on here, I have come to the conclusion that all weapons are OP and we should only be given pillows to fight each other with.
Wait, nevermind... people will start saying that buckwheat pillows are OP then... |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
626
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Posted - 2013.03.25 03:10:00 -
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Kitten Commander wrote:Oh, just you wait till you have cloaked shotty scouts and then the toddlers on this board will throw a tantrum.
Given the amount of grief threads on here, I have come to the conclusion that all weapons are OP and we should only be given pillows to fight each other with.
Wait, nevermind... people will start saying that buckwheat pillows are OP then...
Yes because cloaking never has any drawbacks in any game |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
100
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Posted - 2013.03.25 03:12:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:We all know the laser is op. yes it's nothing at close range but with that weapon if people get close to u ur doing something wrong...
Really, then why is it that I am so VERY rarely ever killed by one?
Here is what I think about the mater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBX6h9zR0MA&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
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