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P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:35:00 -
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I know its a crappy thing to do but until CCP decides to do something here is my solution. I need every non AFKer to help. Here is a list of AFKers I saw tonight. Feel free to add to it. If you see these people on your team or against your team. Just leave. They can't afk if they have no match to AFK in.
Telcontar Dunedain Jamarc Allen Nova Knife Tiel Syysch - all Imperfect if I remember correctly
Kingtc12345- Universal Allies |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:38:00 -
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Who cares? |
Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
175
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:40:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Who cares? This. Why WOULDN'T you AFK farm? |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
35
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:41:00 -
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Kleanur Guy wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Who cares? This. Why WOULDN'T you AFK farm? Really syn supports this? Not a good look man..... |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:41:00 -
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Thx for adding yourselves |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
549
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:42:00 -
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Sounds like a plan, I'm sure everyone will join in on the leaving game part.
Also, add the character "Rasatsu" to that list, I saw him AFK in the MCC yesterday. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
35
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:42:00 -
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I don't play skirmish but I support what ur saying op +1 |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:43:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Kleanur Guy wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Who cares? This. Why WOULDN'T you AFK farm? Really syn supports this? Not a good look man..... It doesn't say syn support this, it just says that Kleaner Guy sees this as being a legit way to earn Sp since CCP screwed up |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:46:00 -
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In case the list gets too long ;) |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
35
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:46:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Kleanur Guy wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Who cares? This. Why WOULDN'T you AFK farm? Really syn supports this? Not a good look man..... It doesn't say syn support this, it just says that Kleaner Guy sees this as being a legit way to earn Sp since CCP screwed up No his comment does in fact condone this behavior. Regardless who messed up. |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:48:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Kleanur Guy wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Who cares? This. Why WOULDN'T you AFK farm? Really syn supports this? Not a good look man..... It doesn't say syn support this, it just says that Kleaner Guy sees this as being a legit way to earn Sp since CCP screwed up No his comment does in fact condone this behavior. Regardless who messed up. It just doesn't say that all of syn supports it, it only shows that Kleaner does |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:50:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Kleanur Guy wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Who cares? This. Why WOULDN'T you AFK farm? Really syn supports this? Not a good look man..... It doesn't say syn support this, it just says that Kleaner Guy sees this as being a legit way to earn Sp since CCP screwed up
If syn didn't support it the participants would be reprimanded. Haven't seen it happening.. |
Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
74
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:50:00 -
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Until CCP changes the game to make it contribution based rather than time based, this will do nothing. I don't worry about it personally, I play the way I want to play. If the people on my team want to AFK, that's on them, I know I put forth the effort. Also another point, if you leave the game, they still AFK farm, just takes a little longer, or shorter if the other team is full... |
Three Double-A Batteries
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
82
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:50:00 -
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31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the DUST 514 Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
Thread will be closed, you will be punished. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
35
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:50:00 -
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U see that bunch of letters under a name? Look hard I know it's hard to see. That mean anything u say while those letter are under ur name is to some degree a extension of a whole I was not address u so please be quite. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:52:00 -
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@ op, it could also mean they don't care, can you prove he has ever afk farmed because he condones it? |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:54:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: U see that bunch of letters under a name? Look hard I know it's hard to see. That mean anything u say while those letter are under ur name is to some degree a extension of a whole I was not address u so please be quite.
That only counts for CEOs and directors, unless you're in a totalitarian group you should be expressing your personal opinion |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
35
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:54:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:I know its a crappy thing to do but until CCP decides to do something here is my solution. I need every non AFKer to help. Here is a list of AFKers I saw tonight. Feel free to add to it. If you see these people on your team or against your team. Just leave. They can't afk if they have no match to AFK in.
Telcontar Dunedain Jamarc Allen Nova Knife Tiel Syysch - all Imperfect if I remember correctly
Kingtc12345- Universal Allies
Rasatsu If u dont have pics a gm might lock this post as a rumor |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1032
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:56:00 -
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http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22789752.jpg |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
102
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:57:00 -
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Who cares. |
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NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
35
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:57:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: U see that bunch of letters under a name? Look hard I know it's hard to see. That mean anything u say while those letter are under ur name is to some degree a extension of a whole I was not address u so please be quite.
That only counts for CEOs and directors, unless you're in a totalitarian group you should be expressing your personal opinion My person opinion is you an idiot . And you clearly no nothing about politics. So please shut up. |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:58:00 -
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Lol I guess get your names in before it gets locked down people. Honestly if CCP locks it, it shows how much theu care about this game and its player base. Not at all... |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:59:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22789752.jpg Proves my point, a CEO who couldn't care less about afk farmers |
XtoTheS
Forgotten Militia
4
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:59:00 -
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I would be on that list with Nova, but I did not get a proper formal invitation to the camp out. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:00:00 -
[25] - Quote
NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: U see that bunch of letters under a name? Look hard I know it's hard to see. That mean anything u say while those letter are under ur name is to some degree a extension of a whole I was not address u so please be quite.
That only counts for CEOs and directors, unless you're in a totalitarian group you should be expressing your personal opinion My person opinion is you an idiot . And you clearly no nothing about politics. So please shut up. My opinion is that you couldn't logic your way out of an elementary school, idiot |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1032
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:04:00 -
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I honestly couldnt care less about people either in my corp or out that do this. The build is fairly old now and now that we know whats coming, it feels a bit of a chore to play, so by afk farming in skirmish matches, you can get that essential sp while playing other games wiating for the new build.
Anyway, these are pointless, random games that have no impact on anything. If someone was afking in a corp match, then I would care, but this is just a non issue. |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:05:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:jenza aranda wrote:http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22789752.jpg Proves my point, a CEO who couldn't care less about afk farmers
Pfft. Not much of a CEO then.. notice its only the 1337 corps who are abusing game mechanics? Guess your not very 1337 either if you have to cheat. |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
436
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:05:00 -
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I only pretend to AFK in the MCC. Actually, I'm roleplaying as a human statue. I smile for 1 ISK, move for 5 ISK and dance for 10 ISK.
Unfortunately, ISK transfer hasn't been implemented yet so I'm stuck standing in one place if I want to stay true to my character.
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NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
35
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:06:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: U see that bunch of letters under a name? Look hard I know it's hard to see. That mean anything u say while those letter are under ur name is to some degree a extension of a whole I was not address u so please be quite.
That only counts for CEOs and directors, unless you're in a totalitarian group you should be expressing your personal opinion My person opinion is you an idiot . And you clearly no nothing about politics. So please shut up. My opinion is that you couldn't logic your way out of an elementary school, idiot Alright me logic tell me how a alliance like negative feedback got such a bad rep? Please tell me was it just their CEO? Big part but not the only. Logic ur way out of that dipshit. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
35
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:06:00 -
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And like a said a few minutes ago I wasn't even talking to u so stfu. |
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XtoTheS
Forgotten Militia
4
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:07:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I only pretend to AFK in the MCC. Actually, I'm roleplaying as a human statue. I smile for 1 ISK, move for 5 ISK and dance for 10 ISK. Unfortunately, ISK transfer hasn't been implemented yet so I'm stuck standing in one place if I want to stay true to my character.
oh I have competition now! *lowers rates to pay by performance* |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1032
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:08:00 -
[32] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:jenza aranda wrote:http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22789752.jpg Proves my point, a CEO who couldn't care less about afk farmers Pfft. Not much of a CEO then.. notice its only the 1337 corps who are abusing game mechanics? Guess your not very 1337 either if you have to cheat. read my above post, sweetie.
getting all pissy about something that really doesnt matter is just silly |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
811
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:08:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:If you see these people on your team or against your team. Just leave. They can't afk if they have no match to AFK in.
Actually, if people leave... The match goes on for longer and therefore more SP/Time is gained... Which actually helps people who AFK earn more.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
549
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:10:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Lol I guess get your names in before it gets locked down people. Honestly if CCP locks it, it shows how much theu care about this game and its player base. Not at all... Already got in on the ground floor~ |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
669
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:11:00 -
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Someone sounds jealous that they weren't invited to our play-fun-games-while-idling-for-SP-in-dust party. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:12:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: U see that bunch of letters under a name? Look hard I know it's hard to see. That mean anything u say while those letter are under ur name is to some degree a extension of a whole I was not address u so please be quite.
That only counts for CEOs and directors, unless you're in a totalitarian group you should be expressing your personal opinion My person opinion is you an idiot . And you clearly no nothing about politics. So please shut up. My opinion is that you couldn't logic your way out of an elementary school, idiot Alright me logic tell me how a alliance like negative feedback got such a bad rep? Please tell me was it just their CEO? Big part but not the only. Logic ur way out of that dipshit. Trolling constantly, duh |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:13:00 -
[37] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:jenza aranda wrote:http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22789752.jpg Proves my point, a CEO who couldn't care less about afk farmers Pfft. Not much of a CEO then.. notice its only the 1337 corps who are abusing game mechanics? Guess your not very 1337 either if you have to cheat. Did she say they do that and can you prove it? Exactly |
XtoTheS
Forgotten Militia
4
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:15:00 -
[38] - Quote
I got an idea, lets sync up a few squads and go afk a skirmish! 8-12 players just chillin. photo op so wear your sunday best gear! |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
211
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:16:00 -
[39] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:I honestly couldnt care less about people either in my corp or out that do this. The build is fairly old now and now that we know whats coming, it feels a bit of a chore to play, so by afk farming in skirmish matches, you can get that essential sp while playing other games wiating for the new build.
Anyway, these are pointless, random games that have no impact on anything. If someone was afking in a corp match, then I would care, but this is just a non issue.
wow i agree with you -Nova |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:22:00 -
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I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:23:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1032
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:25:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently.
Because its a BETA. |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:28:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk
First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either. |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:30:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. Because its a BETA.
But its not anymore. Those sp will stay with the character forever from here on out. If sp got reset this would be a moot point, but its not. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
811
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:30:00 -
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Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. |
XtoTheS
Forgotten Militia
4
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:32:00 -
[46] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either.
You got quite the hard on for this issue dont ya? If you really are concerned about the issue, instead of writing down names. Write up a report about it, detail, pro's and cons and experience. Maybe also experiment also and AFK a few matches. I heard that it is very solitude in the mcc. Go calm your nerves some. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:34:00 -
[47] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either. Actually I've known people who've had to leave whole matches in some fpses but have staued in the match in case they returned on time and for the W/l ratio change, wouldn't that be abusing the system? Explain why he hasn't been banned. Also even in Eve systems have been abused for about a decade because they can be, CCP won't take the petty route and ban for it's short comings |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:34:00 -
[48] - Quote
Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw.
Exactly, it wasn't designed to stand in the MCC all match as a veteran player and farm isk/sp. Therefore, iys abuse of a game mechanic. |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
436
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:34:00 -
[49] - Quote
Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw.
TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that. |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:37:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either. Actually I've known people who've had to leave whole matches in some fpses but have staued in the match in case they returned on time and for the W/l ratio change, wouldn't that be abusing the system? Explain why he hasn't been banned. Also even in Eve systems have been abused for about a decade because they can be, CCP won't take the petty route and ban for it's short comings
Apparently you have never reported a bad afk farmer in eve, because when they get caught, they get banned. |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either. Actually I've known people who've had to leave whole matches in some fpses but have staued in the match in case they returned on time and for the W/l ratio change, wouldn't that be abusing the system? Explain why he hasn't been banned. Also even in Eve systems have been abused for about a decade because they can be, CCP won't take the petty route and ban for it's short comings Apparently you have never reported a bad afk farmer in eve, because when they get caught, they get banned. No, players don't get banned for afk farming, helk it's the most openly admitted activity done. However that's not the broken system in eve |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:40:00 -
[52] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that.
If the match never starts you get no reward, if it does its a match between two afk farming teams that runs till the timer expires, you get your points and no blueberries get wrecked, how is it not a solution? |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:42:00 -
[53] - Quote
@ Vermak They did when I played eve years ago. If they don't anymore, its just another reason I'm glad I left eve. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
157
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:45:00 -
[54] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that.
Actually, the solution is to punish those "players" who choose to exploit the game and taint the overall experience. Considering the exposure lately to the subject, I'm expecting that CCP is watching.
Have fun. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
811
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:46:00 -
[55] - Quote
As of right now... Pub matches are utterly meaningless.
When/if pub matches become tied to FW or actual conquest... Going AFK will simply be legitimized. (As will friendly fire in those situations)
Sabotage is an amazing part of new Eden. Sabotaging a team who's trying to do something by doing the opposite (nothing) to hinder their efforts is a legimate action.
As said above.. .Right now the matches are utterly meaningless. If you honestly care about winning or losing join a corporation and play against other corps for pride... Don't whine about things that happen in public matches. I'd actually prefer half my team in pub matches go AFK rather than be terrible and also cost our team valuable clones, to be honest! |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
211
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:47:00 -
[56] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that. Actually, the solution is to punish those "players" who choose to exploit the game and taint the overall experience. Considering the exposure lately to the subject, I'm expecting that CCP is watching. Have fun.
lol if you think CCP will do something about those "players" then you women are sadly mistaken
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
157
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:50:00 -
[57] - Quote
GoD-NoVa wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that. Actually, the solution is to punish those "players" who choose to exploit the game and taint the overall experience. Considering the exposure lately to the subject, I'm expecting that CCP is watching. Have fun. lol if you think CCP will do something about those "players" then you women are sadly mistaken
We'll see. You might want to brush up on the bannings in Eve to see what CCP might do. Or, you know, not afk.
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Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
438
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:50:00 -
[58] - Quote
OP, you're going on the list. |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
211
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:50:00 -
[59] - Quote
Nova Knife wrote:Sabotage is an amazing part of new Eden. Sabotaging a team who's trying to do something by doing the opposite (nothing) to hinder their efforts is a legimate action.
couldn't have said if better myself |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:52:00 -
[60] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:@ Vermak They did when I played eve years ago. If they don't anymore, its just another reason I'm glad I left eve. They don't know is all that matters, it's recognized as a legitimate way to earn isk, I'm pretty sure you only saw a botter get banned |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:54:00 -
[61] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:GoD-NoVa wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that. Actually, the solution is to punish those "players" who choose to exploit the game and taint the overall experience. Considering the exposure lately to the subject, I'm expecting that CCP is watching. Have fun. lol if you think CCP will do something about those "players" then you women are sadly mistaken We'll see. You might want to brush up on the bannings in Eve to see what CCP might do. Or, you know, not afk. Banning for afk mining, never happened Banning for using war dec shields, nope can't find one Banning for scamming, not going to happen |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
170
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:55:00 -
[62] - Quote
Would someone please remind folks that Skirmish is currently not keeping track of kills, deaths, and war points.
So basically everyone is AFKing in a sense. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
61
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:57:00 -
[63] - Quote
The way I see it is CCP supports SP Farmers. They have no plans on fixing this. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
94
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Posted - 2013.03.24 09:07:00 -
[64] - Quote
Three Double-A Batteries wrote:31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the DUST 514 Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
Thread will be closed, you will be punished.
Looks like meta game here to me. |
VOUYER
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.24 09:11:00 -
[65] - Quote
People who Afk are scrubs |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
437
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Posted - 2013.03.24 09:12:00 -
[66] - Quote
Oh no!!! People are using a legitimate in game mechanic to their advantage in a beta for a game where you grow wider not taller!!!!
CCP are going to ban everyone because they implemented something they knew could be abused!!!
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Sigberct Amni
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
25
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Posted - 2013.03.24 09:35:00 -
[67] - Quote
I'm pretty impressed with how much hate OP received. I figured this thread would be like 1 page of no one currs memes or people trolling OP.
Instead, lots of hand wringing and explanations everywhere. Lol, why...? |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
115
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Posted - 2013.03.24 09:40:00 -
[68] - Quote
Sigberct Amni wrote:I'm pretty impressed with how much hate OP received. I figured this thread would be like 1 page of no one currs memes or people trolling OP.
Instead, lots of hand wringing and explanations everywhere. Lol, why...? Because it is difficult for many to admit that they are losers who are making this game worse with this behavior.
It is bad enough to have individuals doing this all over the place but what about corps like R.I.F.T who do this systematically day after day?
For me this is simple. Play the game or find yourself a new one. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
234
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:00:00 -
[69] - Quote
You can add me there. I afk farm to gain an advantage by "playing" up to four times more than I have time for. I do it because I love the game and want to be good in it :) |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
731
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:10:00 -
[70] - Quote
Oh noes, the DUST514 popo gonna get us afk'ers put on lockdown (if you get us thrown in jail, ima afk there too).
Add me (my alt) to the list Police Commisioner P14GU3!
And next time, post on your main and don't be a sissy about speaking your mind. |
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P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:37:00 -
[71] - Quote
This is my main tyvm. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
731
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:This is my main tyvm.
Your welcome Commissioner!
Just so we all know, how long have you been in this beta? Might want to think about having to play the same maps/build over and over again for a year before bringing in the afk police.
EDIT - Pretty sure there are more names for you to add to the list on the front page of this post, quit slacking. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax. CRONOS.
279
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:45:00 -
[73] - Quote
Cyn Bruin wrote:P14GU3 wrote:This is my main tyvm. Your welcome Commissioner! Just so we all know, how long have you been in this beta? Might want to think about having to play the same maps/build over and over again for a year before bringing in the afk police. EDIT - Pretty sure there are more names for you to add to the list on the front page of this post, quit slacking.
http://dustboard.com/global/merc/P14GU3
Then again he might have played another character before of course. Nice list you can add me to it too, not that I've been active in dust for over a month other than to check some ranges and get the frog and calamari suits ofc :) |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
21
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:46:00 -
[74] - Quote
and the point of this thread is?
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P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:55:00 -
[75] - Quote
Cyn Bruin wrote:P14GU3 wrote:This is my main tyvm. Your welcome Commissioner! Just so we all know, how long have you been in this beta? Might want to think about having to play the same maps/build over and over again for a year before bringing in the afk police. EDIT - Pretty sure there are more names for you to add to the list on the front page of this post, quit slacking.
Actually I started a couple builds ago, firat occasionally on my father's account (he got an invite for having an active eve account) it intrested me enough to get the merc pack and join myself, after a build or two, I realized the utter trash that this game was back then, and quit to go play more exciting games. YES, I quit playing! For the same reasons you afk. That's the difference between me and you. If I don't like it, I don't play! Previous toon was skryd mewgun for anyone that interested.. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
866
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Posted - 2013.03.24 12:08:00 -
[76] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:I know its a crappy thing to do but until CCP decides to do something here is my solution. I need every non AFKer to help. Here is a list of AFKers I saw tonight. Feel free to add to it. If you see these people on your team or against your team. Just leave. They can't afk if they have no match to AFK in.
Telcontar Dunedain Jamarc Allen Nova Knife Tiel Syysch - all Imperfect if I remember correctly
Kingtc12345- Universal Allies
Rasatsu
You should add me to that list then.
Don't cry though, it's a waste of good suffering. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
363
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Posted - 2013.03.24 12:08:00 -
[77] - Quote
Three Double-A Batteries wrote:31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the DUST 514 Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
Thread will be closed, you will be punished. You keep trying to be a junior forum moderator, but you keep misinterpreting the rules. And you keep being wrong about threads getting locked.
This is not a rumor mill, this is the start of a hitlist for people who wish to suicide kill AFKers. Or at least it will be once someone decides to take it there. Meta game, not rumor mongering. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
214
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Posted - 2013.03.24 12:13:00 -
[78] - Quote
Not sure I really care who AFKs in the MCC. I play the game to shoot people dead, find bugs, and generally try to help CCP make it a better game.
Don't really care about SP farmers. If they want to sit in the MCC, then fine, I'll just work that much harder to make up the difference between the two sides. |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
112
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Posted - 2013.03.24 12:27:00 -
[79] - Quote
I think its funny how many guys are scrambling to make up the excuses... Who are you trying to convince?
You obviously abusing the game mechanic and you know it.
I would love to wake up one morning go to work and just stand in the reception. Why not i get paid per hour after all. If they wanted me to actually work as well the would pay me by the amount or work I do rather than how long I am there. |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 12:30:00 -
[80] - Quote
Sweet, kingtc's back! |
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
18
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Posted - 2013.03.24 12:41:00 -
[81] - Quote
Cpt Murd0ck wrote: I would love to wake up one morning go to work and just stand in the reception. Why not i get paid per hour after all. If they wanted me to actually work as well they would pay me by the amount of work I do rather than how long I am there.
You should get a job as a receptionist then... |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
112
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Posted - 2013.03.24 12:52:00 -
[82] - Quote
Happy Violentime wrote:Cpt Murd0ck wrote: I would love to wake up one morning go to work and just stand in the reception. Why not i get paid per hour after all. If they wanted me to actually work as well they would pay me by the amount of work I do rather than how long I am there.
You should get a job as a receptionist then...
Haha no thanks I like getting paid more than peanuts... |
birdog's duster
Nevec Task Force Orbis Imperialis
13
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Posted - 2013.03.24 13:08:00 -
[83] - Quote
SIMPLE SOLUTION-
Do away with SP gains from battle, go down the EVE route and have only passive SP gains. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1254
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Posted - 2013.03.24 13:20:00 -
[84] - Quote
IB4L
Seriously, callout threads are barely within the war room rules if you are after a corp battle. If you want a corp battle to prove you are better then we might be having a serious conversation. Otherwise, enjoy another pointless thread soon to be locked. |
Cpt Murd0ck
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
112
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Posted - 2013.03.24 13:23:00 -
[85] - Quote
birdog's duster wrote:SIMPLE SOLUTION-
Do away with SP gains from battle, go down the EVE route and have only passive SP gains.
Then no one would play at all |
Xaerael Walkeri
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.24 13:24:00 -
[86] - Quote
Primary rule of new eden: If you can do it without hacking the game, or exploiting a glitch, it's legal.
Can you AFK farm without hacking or exploiting? Yes.
AFK farming is legal, just like stealing, spying, propaganda, scams, etc.
Welcome to new eden. Leave your copy of CoD's honour rules in the bin.
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GM Unicorn
Game Masters C C P Alliance
353
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Posted - 2013.03.24 14:09:00 -
[87] - Quote
Hi, while I'm understanding your point of view in this matter, I don't like any sort of "head hunting" with names and such. We are aware of the situation but we still have to make an official statement about it. I'm closing the thread in order to avoid a massive flame, but if you want to discuss about it in a civil way, feel free to open a new one. Also, I have nothing against a thread from another perspective like "List of Corps that are against farming" or something like that.
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