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XtoTheS
Forgotten Militia
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:07:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I only pretend to AFK in the MCC. Actually, I'm roleplaying as a human statue. I smile for 1 ISK, move for 5 ISK and dance for 10 ISK. Unfortunately, ISK transfer hasn't been implemented yet so I'm stuck standing in one place if I want to stay true to my character.
oh I have competition now! *lowers rates to pay by performance* |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1032
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:08:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:jenza aranda wrote:http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22789752.jpg Proves my point, a CEO who couldn't care less about afk farmers Pfft. Not much of a CEO then.. notice its only the 1337 corps who are abusing game mechanics? Guess your not very 1337 either if you have to cheat. read my above post, sweetie.
getting all pissy about something that really doesnt matter is just silly |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
811
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:08:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:If you see these people on your team or against your team. Just leave. They can't afk if they have no match to AFK in.
Actually, if people leave... The match goes on for longer and therefore more SP/Time is gained... Which actually helps people who AFK earn more.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
549
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:10:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Lol I guess get your names in before it gets locked down people. Honestly if CCP locks it, it shows how much theu care about this game and its player base. Not at all... Already got in on the ground floor~ |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
669
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:11:00 -
[35] - Quote
Someone sounds jealous that they weren't invited to our play-fun-games-while-idling-for-SP-in-dust party. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:12:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: U see that bunch of letters under a name? Look hard I know it's hard to see. That mean anything u say while those letter are under ur name is to some degree a extension of a whole I was not address u so please be quite.
That only counts for CEOs and directors, unless you're in a totalitarian group you should be expressing your personal opinion My person opinion is you an idiot . And you clearly no nothing about politics. So please shut up. My opinion is that you couldn't logic your way out of an elementary school, idiot Alright me logic tell me how a alliance like negative feedback got such a bad rep? Please tell me was it just their CEO? Big part but not the only. Logic ur way out of that dipshit. Trolling constantly, duh |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:13:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:jenza aranda wrote:http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22789752.jpg Proves my point, a CEO who couldn't care less about afk farmers Pfft. Not much of a CEO then.. notice its only the 1337 corps who are abusing game mechanics? Guess your not very 1337 either if you have to cheat. Did she say they do that and can you prove it? Exactly |
XtoTheS
Forgotten Militia
4
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:15:00 -
[38] - Quote
I got an idea, lets sync up a few squads and go afk a skirmish! 8-12 players just chillin. photo op so wear your sunday best gear! |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
211
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:16:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:I honestly couldnt care less about people either in my corp or out that do this. The build is fairly old now and now that we know whats coming, it feels a bit of a chore to play, so by afk farming in skirmish matches, you can get that essential sp while playing other games wiating for the new build.
Anyway, these are pointless, random games that have no impact on anything. If someone was afking in a corp match, then I would care, but this is just a non issue.
wow i agree with you -Nova |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:22:00 -
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I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:23:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk |
jenza aranda
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1032
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:25:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently.
Because its a BETA. |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:28:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk
First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either. |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:30:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. Because its a BETA.
But its not anymore. Those sp will stay with the character forever from here on out. If sp got reset this would be a moot point, but its not. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
811
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:30:00 -
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Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. |
XtoTheS
Forgotten Militia
4
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:32:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either.
You got quite the hard on for this issue dont ya? If you really are concerned about the issue, instead of writing down names. Write up a report about it, detail, pro's and cons and experience. Maybe also experiment also and AFK a few matches. I heard that it is very solitude in the mcc. Go calm your nerves some. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:34:00 -
[47] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either. Actually I've known people who've had to leave whole matches in some fpses but have staued in the match in case they returned on time and for the W/l ratio change, wouldn't that be abusing the system? Explain why he hasn't been banned. Also even in Eve systems have been abused for about a decade because they can be, CCP won't take the petty route and ban for it's short comings |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:34:00 -
[48] - Quote
Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw.
Exactly, it wasn't designed to stand in the MCC all match as a veteran player and farm isk/sp. Therefore, iys abuse of a game mechanic. |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
436
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:34:00 -
[49] - Quote
Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw.
TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that. |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:37:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either. Actually I've known people who've had to leave whole matches in some fpses but have staued in the match in case they returned on time and for the W/l ratio change, wouldn't that be abusing the system? Explain why he hasn't been banned. Also even in Eve systems have been abused for about a decade because they can be, CCP won't take the petty route and ban for it's short comings
Apparently you have never reported a bad afk farmer in eve, because when they get caught, they get banned. |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:40:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I don't understand how abusing game mechanics, regardless of what match, is a non issue. Its a bannable offense in any game, besides this one apparently. I didn't know Bf3, cod, etc banned people for going afk First of all, people don't afk entire battles in CoD, BF3 ect. Secondly, I said abuse game mechanics, not go afk. Going afk is not abusing game mechanics in those game either. Ultima Online, one of the first MMO ever, banned people for afk skill training.. not the only one either. Actually I've known people who've had to leave whole matches in some fpses but have staued in the match in case they returned on time and for the W/l ratio change, wouldn't that be abusing the system? Explain why he hasn't been banned. Also even in Eve systems have been abused for about a decade because they can be, CCP won't take the petty route and ban for it's short comings Apparently you have never reported a bad afk farmer in eve, because when they get caught, they get banned. No, players don't get banned for afk farming, helk it's the most openly admitted activity done. However that's not the broken system in eve |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:40:00 -
[52] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that.
If the match never starts you get no reward, if it does its a match between two afk farming teams that runs till the timer expires, you get your points and no blueberries get wrecked, how is it not a solution? |
P14GU3
Expert Intervention Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:42:00 -
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@ Vermak They did when I played eve years ago. If they don't anymore, its just another reason I'm glad I left eve. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
157
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:45:00 -
[54] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that.
Actually, the solution is to punish those "players" who choose to exploit the game and taint the overall experience. Considering the exposure lately to the subject, I'm expecting that CCP is watching.
Have fun. |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
811
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:46:00 -
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As of right now... Pub matches are utterly meaningless.
When/if pub matches become tied to FW or actual conquest... Going AFK will simply be legitimized. (As will friendly fire in those situations)
Sabotage is an amazing part of new Eden. Sabotaging a team who's trying to do something by doing the opposite (nothing) to hinder their efforts is a legimate action.
As said above.. .Right now the matches are utterly meaningless. If you honestly care about winning or losing join a corporation and play against other corps for pride... Don't whine about things that happen in public matches. I'd actually prefer half my team in pub matches go AFK rather than be terrible and also cost our team valuable clones, to be honest! |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
211
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:47:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that. Actually, the solution is to punish those "players" who choose to exploit the game and taint the overall experience. Considering the exposure lately to the subject, I'm expecting that CCP is watching. Have fun.
lol if you think CCP will do something about those "players" then you women are sadly mistaken
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
157
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:50:00 -
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GoD-NoVa wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Nova Knife wrote:Because there's no abuse? CCP designed the reward system in such a way that what you do in the battleh as very little effect on yoru rewards. The majority of them come from time spent in battle.
I will agree that the rewards for time are a bit high... But there's honestly nothing CCP can do to stop people from idling except make the game more rewarding and interesting to actually play it.
If they introduce an idle-kick... People will just use macros on their controllers, or run around every so often knowing how long they have to move.
If they introduce a vote-kick... People will just abuse the hell out of it to kick people they don't like regardless of if they are AFK or not.
They only thing to really do is lower the rewards based on time. They can't remove them completely, because they were put there in the first place as a 'consolation prize' for the people who get like 100-200WP a match at most on a regular basis. This system allows those people to progress at a good pace still...
(As a side-note... The only people involved in actual abuse of game mechanics here are the people using grenades to try to teamkill.) It's hilarious to dance around those people, and make them kill themselves for no reason btw. TL;DR: The solution is to reward losers less. OP, you get to be responsible for all of the crying that results from that. Actually, the solution is to punish those "players" who choose to exploit the game and taint the overall experience. Considering the exposure lately to the subject, I'm expecting that CCP is watching. Have fun. lol if you think CCP will do something about those "players" then you women are sadly mistaken
We'll see. You might want to brush up on the bannings in Eve to see what CCP might do. Or, you know, not afk.
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Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
438
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:50:00 -
[58] - Quote
OP, you're going on the list. |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
211
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:50:00 -
[59] - Quote
Nova Knife wrote:Sabotage is an amazing part of new Eden. Sabotaging a team who's trying to do something by doing the opposite (nothing) to hinder their efforts is a legimate action.
couldn't have said if better myself |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
614
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:52:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:@ Vermak They did when I played eve years ago. If they don't anymore, its just another reason I'm glad I left eve. They don't know is all that matters, it's recognized as a legitimate way to earn isk, I'm pretty sure you only saw a botter get banned |
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