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Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 86	Posted - 2013.03.22 02:21:00 - [1] - Quote The militia shield extenders are not benifiting from the shield enhancements skill passive affect. I have shield enhancements skilled to LV4 which should give me a 12% reduction to CPU consumption of all shield modules. CPU consumption of the militia shield extender, without passive modification, is 23 CPU CPU consumption of the militia shield extender, with LV 4 shield enhancements passive modification, should be 20.24. The passive affect of shield enhancements is not being taken into account by the dropsuit CPU consumption calculator in regard to the militia shield extender. Instead, it is registering the full 23 CPU. I would like to here a response from someone on this mater in order to make sure someone at CCP has made note of this bug. I will keep bumping this thread until I do.
Banjo Hero BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 58	Posted - 2013.03.22 05:11:00 - [2] - Quote I think the descriptions of the modules always say what their base stats are. Try removing the offending mod, and comparing the CPU and PG numbers on the fitting edit screen. If I'm right, the amount the PG/CPU numbers change by should be less than the base numbers in the description. Of course, it's possible that the skills don't affect the militia gear, whether intended or not.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 86	Posted - 2013.03.22 05:35:00 - [3] - Quote Banjo Hero wrote: I think the descriptions of the modules always say what their base stats are. Try removing the offending mod, and comparing the CPU and PG numbers on the fitting edit screen. If I'm right, the amount the PG/CPU numbers change by should be less than the base numbers in the description. Of course, it's possible that the skills don't affect the militia gear, whether intended or not. Did you have trouble comprehending my post? Do you take me for some newbarry fool, who can't tell his kitten from a hole in the wall? The problem is exactly as I have stated. There is no "oh, well maybe it's this" or "could possiblely be this". I have tested every conceivable avenue of thought, where this problem is concerned. Now if you don't mind. Let the grownups talk.
Repe Susi Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 304	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:28:00 - [4] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: Banjo Hero wrote: I think the descriptions of the modules always say what their base stats are. Try removing the offending mod, and comparing the CPU and PG numbers on the fitting edit screen. If I'm right, the amount the PG/CPU numbers change by should be less than the base numbers in the description. Of course, it's possible that the skills don't affect the militia gear, whether intended or not. Did you have trouble comprehending my post? Do you take me for some newbarry fool, who can't tell his kitten hole from a hole in the wall? The problem is exactly as I have stated. There is no "oh, well maybe it's this" or "could possiblely be this". I have tested every conceivable avenue of thought, where this problem is concerned. Now, if you don't mind, let the grownups talk. BAM! lol As Banjo Hero said, it may not affect militia gear at all. I'm inclined to believe this also, because militia gear does not have any requirements.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 86	Posted - 2013.03.22 07:53:00 - [5] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Ignoble Son wrote: Banjo Hero wrote: I think the descriptions of the modules always say what their base stats are. Try removing the offending mod, and comparing the CPU and PG numbers on the fitting edit screen. If I'm right, the amount the PG/CPU numbers change by should be less than the base numbers in the description. Of course, it's possible that the skills don't affect the militia gear, whether intended or not. Did you have trouble comprehending my post? Do you take me for some newbarry fool, who can't tell his kitten hole from a hole in the wall? The problem is exactly as I have stated. There is no "oh, well maybe it's this" or "could possiblely be this". I have tested every conceivable avenue of thought, where this problem is concerned. Now, if you don't mind, let the grownups talk. BAM! lol As Banjo Hero said, it may not affect militia gear at all. I'm inclined to believe this also, because militia gear does not have any requirements. That is not what the description for the passive affect of shield enhancements states. If this were true then it would say "modules requiring the shield enhancement skill" like the others do. Now whether or not there was a clerical error on CCP's part remains to be seen. Regardless, there IS none-the-less a problem: THE SKILL IS NOT FUNCTIONING AS DISCRIBED. I don't know how to make it any clearer than that.
Repe Susi Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 304	Posted - 2013.03.22 08:09:00 - [6] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Ignoble Son wrote: Banjo Hero wrote: I think the descriptions of the modules always say what their base stats are. Try removing the offending mod, and comparing the CPU and PG numbers on the fitting edit screen. If I'm right, the amount the PG/CPU numbers change by should be less than the base numbers in the description. Of course, it's possible that the skills don't affect the militia gear, whether intended or not. Did you have trouble comprehending my post? Do you take me for some newbarry fool, who can't tell his kitten hole from a hole in the wall? The problem is exactly as I have stated. There is no "oh, well maybe it's this" or "could possiblely be this". I have tested every conceivable avenue of thought, where this problem is concerned. Now, if you don't mind, let the grownups talk. BAM! lol As Banjo Hero said, it may not affect militia gear at all. I'm inclined to believe this also, because militia gear does not have any requirements. That is not what the description for the passive affect of shield enhancements states. If this were true then it would say "modules requiring the shield enhancement skill" like the others do. Now whether or not there was a clerical error on CCP's part remains to be seen. Regardless, there IS none-the-less a problem: THE SKILL IS NOT FUNCTIONING AS DISCRIBED. I don't know how to make it any clearer than that. I hear you. I'm not in front of Dust so I couldn't check what the description says. Indeed I don't remember about the part saying 'requiring shield enhancement skill...'. Just trying to offer some help but it seems you are right.
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 255	Posted - 2013.03.22 12:03:00 - [7] - Quote Wow, Internet Screaming Key means this is very, very important. Not. The quantity of documentation that is not accurate nor clearly states what benefits are included in DUST would fill ... a book. However, we have posted and things have been fixed but the documentation stays the same, at least as far as I can recall. Would you mind sitting at the Adult table long enough to let us explain to you how some of these things work? Thanks ever so much. There are No Requirements for Militia Gear. The documentation says it will reduce the CPU usage to Any Module That Requires the Skill. Which reads to the DUST players that have been here for sometime suggests that it might be working as designed. Militia Gear uses more CPU/PG. Even level 1 of some gear uses less. To most of us, having something Skilled to lvl 4 does not mean we would be using Militia Gear. If you want CCP/Shanghai to notice this than [Bug] should lead your Subject Line. Also the Devs have ask that we refrain from bumping one's own post. You expecting a personal reply to a minor issue regarding Militia Gear is the height of entitlement. Although, in your case Kitten, the direction seems to be headed in the opposite direction.
hydraSlav's Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz 2	Posted - 2013.03.22 13:58:00 - [8] - Quote I have been doing a lot of research for my spreadsheet, and: Militia Shield Extender is not effected by fitting skills Militia Shield Recharger is not effected by fitting skills Militia Armor Plate is not effected by fitting skills For the rest of the modules (6 other module types), the Militia variant is effected by the fitting skills. Whether this is a bug or not remains to be seen.
Pombe Geek Red Star. 53	Posted - 2013.03.22 14:47:00 - [9] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: Banjo Hero wrote: I think the descriptions of the modules always say what their base stats are. Try removing the offending mod, and comparing the CPU and PG numbers on the fitting edit screen. If I'm right, the amount the PG/CPU numbers change by should be less than the base numbers in the description. Of course, it's possible that the skills don't affect the militia gear, whether intended or not. Did you have trouble comprehending my post? Do you take me for some newbarry fool, who can't tell his kitten hole from a hole in the wall? The problem is exactly as I have stated. There is no "oh, well maybe it's this" or "could possiblely be this". I have tested every conceivable avenue of thought, where this problem is concerned. Now, if you don't mind, let the grownups talk. What a kitten.
Pombe Geek Red Star. 53	Posted - 2013.03.22 14:51:00 - [10] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Ignoble Son wrote: Banjo Hero wrote: I think the descriptions of the modules always say what their base stats are. Try removing the offending mod, and comparing the CPU and PG numbers on the fitting edit screen. If I'm right, the amount the PG/CPU numbers change by should be less than the base numbers in the description. Of course, it's possible that the skills don't affect the militia gear, whether intended or not. Did you have trouble comprehending my post? Do you take me for some newbarry fool, who can't tell his kitten hole from a hole in the wall? The problem is exactly as I have stated. There is no "oh, well maybe it's this" or "could possiblely be this". I have tested every conceivable avenue of thought, where this problem is concerned. Now, if you don't mind, let the grownups talk. BAM! lol As Banjo Hero said, it may not affect militia gear at all. I'm inclined to believe this also, because militia gear does not have any requirements. That is not what the description for the passive affect of shield enhancements states. If this were true then it would say "modules requiring the shield enhancement skill" like the others do. Now whether or not there was a clerical error on CCP's part remains to be seen. Regardless, there IS none-the-less a problem: THE SKILL IS NOT FUNCTIONING AS DISCRIBED. [b]I don't know how to make it any clearer than that. You could spell DESCRIBE correctly...

Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 87	Posted - 2013.03.22 18:24:00 - [11] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Wow, Internet Screaming Key means this is very, very important. Not. The quantity of documentation that is not accurate nor clearly states what benefits are included in DUST would fill ... a book. However, we have posted and things have been fixed but the documentation stays the same, at least as far as I can recall. Would you mind sitting at the Adult table long enough to let us explain to you how some of these things work? Thanks ever so much. You're not half as good at put'n the smack down on the beaoches as I am, so please, just stop trying. Quote limitation: KalOfTheRathi wrote: 1. There are No Requirements for Militia Gear. 2. The documentation says it will reduce the CPU usage to Any Module That Requires the Skill. 3. Which reads to the DUST players that have been here for sometime suggests that it might be working as designed. 4. Militia Gear uses more CPU/PG. Even level 1 of some gear uses less. 5. To most of us, having something Skilled to lvl 4 does not mean we would be using Militia Gear. 1. And your point here is what exactly? 2. It, in fact, did not, as CLEARLY stated in my last post. Looks like we've got another one with a comprehension problem. 3. Clearly it does not, as I happen to be one of those players. FAIL 4. I fail to see what relevance this has to anything currently under discussion. Yet another Fail. 5. Apparently, you're not a big fan of making ISK, but please, don't presume to speak for others, especially, when by experience, I know you to be absolutely wrong here. KalOfTheRathi wrote: If you want CCP/Shanghai to notice this than [Bug] should lead your Subject Line. Right, because that is SO necessary in the bug reporting section of the forums. KalOfTheRathi wrote: You expecting a personal reply to a minor issue regarding Militia Gear is the height of entitlement. Although, in your case Kitten, the direction seems to be headed in the opposite direction. Oh forgive me! You are so right. It is far to much to ask of these obvious gods among men to grace us with the solitary word "NOTED". Whatever was I thinking. My most humble apologies. Please forgive me. \sarcasum off
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 87	Posted - 2013.03.22 18:26:00 - [12] - Quote Pombe Geek wrote: Ignoble Son wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Ignoble Son wrote: Banjo Hero wrote: I think the descriptions of the modules always say what their base stats are. Try removing the offending mod, and comparing the CPU and PG numbers on the fitting edit screen. If I'm right, the amount the PG/CPU numbers change by should be less than the base numbers in the description. Of course, it's possible that the skills don't affect the militia gear, whether intended or not. Did you have trouble comprehending my post? Do you take me for some newbarry fool, who can't tell his kitten hole from a hole in the wall? The problem is exactly as I have stated. There is no "oh, well maybe it's this" or "could possiblely be this". I have tested every conceivable avenue of thought, where this problem is concerned. Now, if you don't mind, let the grownups talk. BAM! lol As Banjo Hero said, it may not affect militia gear at all. I'm inclined to believe this also, because militia gear does not have any requirements. That is not what the description for the passive affect of shield enhancements states. If this were true then it would say "modules requiring the shield enhancement skill" like the others do. Now whether or not there was a clerical error on CCP's part remains to be seen. Regardless, there IS none-the-less a problem: THE SKILL IS NOT FUNCTIONING AS DISCRIBED. [b]I don't know how to make it any clearer than that. You could spell DESCRIBE correctly... This was actually quite funny.
Banjo Hero BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 59	Posted - 2013.03.22 22:11:00 - [13] - Quote Wow. I guess it's what I get for trying to be helpful. Ignoble Son wrote: Banjo Hero wrote: I think the descriptions of the modules always say what their base stats are. Try removing the offending mod, and comparing the CPU and PG numbers on the fitting edit screen. If I'm right, the amount the PG/CPU numbers change by should be less than the base numbers in the description. Of course, it's possible that the skills don't affect the militia gear, whether intended or not. Did you have trouble comprehending my post? Nope. Well, except for the parts you misspelled. Ignoble Son wrote: Do you take me for some newbarry fool, who can't tell his kitten hole from a hole in the wall? I did not. My position on the issue has changed somewhat since my response to your original post. Ignoble Son wrote: The problem is exactly as I have stated. There is no "oh, well maybe it's this" or "could possiblely be this". I have tested every conceivable avenue of thought, where this problem is concerned. I have my doubts as to the veracity of this statement. Ignoble Son wrote: Now, if you don't mind, let the grownups talk. I think somebody needs a nap. Answering an honest attempt to be of help with this sort of obnoxious, juvenile, vitriolic tantrum is neither appropriate, normal, nor especially "grownup" behavior. Any adult acting like this should probably seek mental health treatment. And, anyway, if you didn't want people to offer advice or input on your problem, why did you even post it here? All right, boyo. I've said my piece. You have fun with that being a total wanker thing you've got going on, there. I'm sure it makes you tons of friends.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 90	Posted - 2013.03.22 22:51:00 - [14] - Quote Banjo Hero wrote: And, anyway, if you didn't want people to offer advice or input on your problem, why did you even post it here? Was posted as a bug, intended for those who can correct the issue. I never asked for any opinions from the peanut gallery.
XV1 Bulldog Mining and Industrial Ltd Rebel Alliance of New Eden 1	Posted - 2013.03.23 09:53:00 - [15] - Quote OK not sure why this turned into an argument...... But anyway I have also noticed this in game and wonder why the skills would not affect the militia shield extender as nothing states that it should not. I would very much like it too as militia shield extenders are nearly free in comparison to basics and to all those that think that having level 4 skills automatically means you should use the best gear possible, as I stated before the price difference is motivating enough. This is not including the fact that sometimes you have other more important modules in play and do not have the leftover CPU for a better shield extender. Anyway thanks OP for this I was actually just about to post something about this myself.
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 262	Posted - 2013.03.23 12:02:00 - [16] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: -- snip more of his blather -- I never turned off my sarcasm. Not for Kitten Squeezings like you. For all you pissing about you haven't acted like an adult once. You entire demeanor suggests that you don't have a driver's license as yet. Although, you did have one line that was good even if it was only in reply to someone correcting your abysmal spelling. If you want support and/or clarification then try Not Insulting the First Response you get. Simple as that is, I suspect it is too mature for you to handle. TTFN, Mother Kitten.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 91	Posted - 2013.03.23 18:39:00 - [17] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: If you want support and/or clarification then try Not Insulting the First Response you get. This was already addressed in post #14. So, if noone else has any furth valid points, I'll take that to mean: I win.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 978	Posted - 2013.03.29 20:35:00 - [18] - Quote you got linked in the bug update, congratz
Buster Friently Rosen Association 229	Posted - 2013.03.29 20:53:00 - [19] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: Banjo Hero wrote: And, anyway, if you didn't want people to offer advice or input on your problem, why did you even post it here? Was posted as a bug, intended for those who can correct the issue. I never asked for any opinions from the peanut gallery. Next time email it in then kittenwad. This is a forum.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 122	Posted - 2013.03.31 09:00:00 - [20] - Quote LMFAO!!!! My trolling/flaming this thread, to keep it on the front page for like five days strait, paid off.



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