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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:28:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:-_- you never answered my question saber and we caldari live off of sweat blood and tears
Needs alot of blood but yes. You might the interested in joining the blood-raiders http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Blood_Raiders
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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:28:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:So you are complaining you're missing? A forge gun uses velocity as a weapon it needs to actually hit to do all that damage. There is no explosives beyond the kinetic energy used in the weapon. Even with a muzzle velocity of 7k m/s you won't even know its there unless you're hit by it. I am not a heavy sooo aim at their feet? Tell me something I don't already know. |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
307
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:29:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:So you are complaining you're missing? A forge gun uses velocity as a weapon it needs to actually hit to do all that damage. There is no explosives beyond the kinetic energy used in the weapon. Even with a muzzle velocity of 7k m/s you won't even know its there unless you're hit by it. I am not a heavy sooo aim at their feet? Tell me something I don't already know.
Aim better? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:29:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:Sit still when you let the shot go.
If you're aiming for a tank that's waaaaay far away, then crouch.
If you're shooting at infantry then be sure to aim for the feet. If it's that far away, I need to choose a different target because my forge guns don't have range. I bet if I had sharpshooter proficiency 5, my shots still wouldn't go far enough. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
580
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Wait so that deep core mining invention is classed as a blaster, not a railgun? Are you sure it's not some sort of, hybrid weapon Its is a hybrid weapon, just the gravity generated is sufficient enough to have mass. It just causes a large amount of kinetic damage unlike most traditional energy weapons which causes thermal and explosive like damage. Ah, I found that a bit odd, but I hoped someone would get the pun... |
General Tiberius1
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Wait so that deep core mining invention is classed as a blaster, not a railgun? Are you sure it's not some sort of, hybrid weapon Its is a hybrid weapon, just the gravity generated is sufficient enough to have mass. It just causes a large amount of kinetic damage unlike most traditional energy weapons which causes thermal and explosive like damage.
Adapted from Deep Core Mining Inc.GÇÖs proprietary technology, the DCMA S-1 subverts conventional expectations of what a man-portable anti-material weapons platform is capable of. Despite its excessive weight and extended recharge times, the GÇ£Forge GunGÇ¥ as it has become known, is regarded as the most devastating infantry weapon on the battlefield, and an invaluable tool for those capable of wielding it.
Powered by a Gemini microcapacitor, the Forge Gun utilizes a stored electric charge to fire kinetic slugs at speeds in excess of 7,000 m/s, enough to penetrate even augmented armor systems. During the pre-fire charge, the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic field and helping to shield the user from backscatter and the excessive heat produced. Power generation remains the single largest drawback of the current design, the onboard capacitor requiring a significant amount of time to reach full power after each discharge.
were does it say "blaster"?
sounds like a rail gun to me |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:30:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Why the hell should my forge gun miss? This isn't technology being developed now, this is ridiculously far into the future compared to now. We don't have exo suits for war, we're testing exo suits to give people back some mobility after suffering severe trauma to their nervous system.
IF I'M MISSING THE SUIT ISN'T WORTH IT AT ALL. At that, why do snipers have greater range than a forge gun? It's the same damn technology.
If you want to move this CCP, then move it, but don't bury it. You'll end up being like the bigger developers that don't care about the people they're entertaining. because snipers complainged about it due to us forge gunners doubling as excellent counter-snipers they can shot gun gank us AND pop off our heads at 2km, but us have the same capabilities? oh no, rather then learn how to counter our counter, they went and whined to ccp Of course they did, because that's the easy thing to do. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Why the hell should my forge gun miss? This isn't technology being developed now, this is ridiculously far into the future compared to now. We don't have exo suits for war, we're testing exo suits to give people back some mobility after suffering severe trauma to their nervous system.
IF I'M MISSING THE SUIT ISN'T WORTH IT AT ALL. At that, why do snipers have greater range than a forge gun? It's the same damn technology.
If you want to move this CCP, then move it, but don't bury it. You'll end up being like the bigger developers that don't care about the people they're entertaining. Cracks neck attempts translation.Why in the hell does a forge gun miss a heavy suit? I mean seriously that target is the size of a barn and its entirely useless and seriously why is my heavy suit moving around like a crippled person, I am literally tripping over every rock sump and step. I mean we're 20k years in the future and we're supposed to be so highly advanced yet I am sure me and my buff self could do better job than this pos suit. My suits should be assisting me aim for amarr's sake! Also why in the heck does my forge gun does not have the same range as the sniper rifles? Aren't they both railguns? Finally CCP! Why are you taking so effing forever for the next build and fixing these stupid issues CCP!? If you don't fix these dust will die! End TranslationWelcome to the wonderful world of Rampant AI's that can get hacked and basically twist the suit's head around and off. One of the main reasons we don't use the first generation Aegis proto-suits anymore, they where suspect-able to rogue drone hacking. As for the forge gun. Its not a railgun its a heavily modified mining bore blaster. Uses a very powerful electrical charge to de-harmonize materials in a nice bore hole shape, and in a most ore rocks and veins this would shatter an asteroid apart into easy to manage peice after a few blasts. As for hitting a sniper, aim better. Its the whole reason your body has been programmed to handle any weapon. You still need actual experience with the weapon in order to utilize it to its best use. CCP is very busy at work. I mentioned tank. I don't have many problems hitting people, including killing snipers if they're close enough. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:33:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Why the hell should my forge gun miss? This isn't technology being developed now, this is ridiculously far into the future compared to now. We don't have exo suits for war, we're testing exo suits to give people back some mobility after suffering severe trauma to their nervous system.
IF I'M MISSING THE SUIT ISN'T WORTH IT AT ALL. At that, why do snipers have greater range than a forge gun? It's the same damn technology.
If you want to move this CCP, then move it, but don't bury it. You'll end up being like the bigger developers that don't care about the people they're entertaining. Srs or troll? Why would this be a trolling thread? I threw it up here because my shots were missing by stupid margins because I'm trying to avoid being hit by a tank. I'm not saying I shouldn't miss at all, but it's stupid to call it a powered exo suit if the case is such that I can't hit at all while I'm trying to avoid being hit. Maybe they should just give us a medieval suit of armor and leave it at that, since so many people want the heavy class removed from Dust. Because, that is their end game with so many nerfs, which is the same thing they want done with tanks. Dropsuits aren't powerd exo suits ... Last I remember reading, the guns in Dust are powerful enough that they would rip off the arm of someone shooting them without suit, so considering they're so powerful, how aren't they powered exo suits? With what you said, they're no better than today's SCUBA dry suits. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:34:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:So what you're saying is... you want Auto Aim? Ahahahahaha! The game already has aim assist. Are you stupid? How could you possibly think that's what I wanted? In your mind, wanting more accuracy = wanting auto aim? Aim assist isn't Auto Aim. So you missing = game is inaccurate? Yeah, we do have some problems with hit detection, but that has nothing to do with you having sh*tty aim with a forge gun. LOL Have you been in a battle with me, on either side? |
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General Tiberius1
Expert Intervention Caldari State
252
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:34:00 -
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go away spkr, this thread had been highjacked and derailed into a forge gun convo!
(^_^) |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3175
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:35:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Why the hell should my forge gun miss? This isn't technology being developed now, this is ridiculously far into the future compared to now. We don't have exo suits for war, we're testing exo suits to give people back some mobility after suffering severe trauma to their nervous system.
IF I'M MISSING THE SUIT ISN'T WORTH IT AT ALL. At that, why do snipers have greater range than a forge gun? It's the same damn technology.
If you want to move this CCP, then move it, but don't bury it. You'll end up being like the bigger developers that don't care about the people they're entertaining. Srs or troll? Why would this be a trolling thread? I threw it up here because my shots were missing by stupid margins because I'm trying to avoid being hit by a tank. I'm not saying I shouldn't miss at all, but it's stupid to call it a powered exo suit if the case is such that I can't hit at all while I'm trying to avoid being hit. Maybe they should just give us a medieval suit of armor and leave it at that, since so many people want the heavy class removed from Dust. Because, that is their end game with so many nerfs, which is the same thing they want done with tanks. Dropsuits aren't powerd exo suits ... Last I remember reading, the guns in Dust are powerful enough that they would rip off the arm of someone shooting them without suit, so considering they're so powerful, how aren't they powered exo suits? With what you said, they're no better than today's SCUBA dry suits.
Or Agumentations..
Your skeleton is made of titanium. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
528
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:36:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:So what you're saying is... you want Auto Aim? Ahahahahaha! The game already has aim assist. Are you stupid? How could you possibly think that's what I wanted? In your mind, wanting more accuracy = wanting auto aim? Aim assist isn't Auto Aim. So you missing = game is inaccurate? Yeah, we do have some problems with hit detection, but that has nothing to do with you having sh*tty aim with a forge gun. LOL Have you been in a battle with me, on either side? Nope, but I've been hit by enough Forge Guns to know that there are some very good users out there, apparently you're not one of them. |
General Tiberius1
Expert Intervention Caldari State
252
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Se=Spkr4theDead wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Why the hell should my forge gun miss? This isn't technology being developed now, this is ridiculously far into the future compared to now. We don't have exo suits for war, we're testing exo suits to give people back some mobility after suffering severe trauma to their nervous system.
IF I'M MISSING THE SUIT ISN'T WORTH IT AT ALL. At that, why do snipers have greater range than a forge gun? It's the same damn technology.
If you want to move this CCP, then move it, but don't bury it. You'll end up being like the bigger developers that don't care about the people they're entertaining. Srs or troll? Why would this be a trolling thread? I threw it up here because my shots were missing by stupid margins because I'm trying to avoid being hit by a tank. I'm not saying I shouldn't miss at all, but it's stupid to call it a powered exo suit if the case is such that I can't hit at all while I'm trying to avoid being hit. Maybe they should just give us a medieval suit of armor and leave it at that, since so many people want the heavy class removed from Dust. Because, that is their end game with so many nerfs, which is the same thing they want done with tanks. Dropsuits aren't powerd exo suits ... Last I remember reading, the guns in Dust are powerful enough that they would rip off the arm of someone shooting them without suit, so considering they're so powerful, how aren't they powered exo suits? With what you said, they're no better than today's SCUBA dry suits.
Or Agumentations..
Your skeleton is made of titanium. [/quote]
when did we all become terminators |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
307
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:37:00 -
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So what you want is the forge gun to kill everything in one shot? With a muzzle velocity of 7k m/s is Mach 9 on Earth at sea level. A round with that much kinetic energy would invert whatever it hit with the pressure wave behind it. It would collapse buildings. Suck tank crews out the tiny exit hole. Scatter multiple bodies depending on the the path it was fired from. Balanced game play won't include an end all be all weapon. |
General Tiberius1
Expert Intervention Caldari State
252
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:41:00 -
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lol, balanced game
someone's hallucinating |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
308
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:44:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:lol, balanced game
someone's hallucinating
Sometimes, but not today... I hope. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:45:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:So you are complaining you're missing? A forge gun uses velocity as a weapon it needs to actually hit to do all that damage. There is no explosives beyond the kinetic energy used in the weapon. Even with a muzzle velocity of 7k m/s you won't even know its there unless you're hit by it. I am not a heavy sooo aim at their feet? Tell me something I don't already know. Aim better? Stop being a ******. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
528
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Or Agumentations..
Your skeleton is made of titanium.
Sorry, but all suits do have some type of enhancement, even scout suits, these are exo suits. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:46:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:go away spkr, this thread had been highjacked and derailed into a forge gun convo!
(^_^) I started it as a forge gun conversation. Were you dropped on your head as a baby? |
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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:47:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:So what you're saying is... you want Auto Aim? Ahahahahaha! The game already has aim assist. Are you stupid? How could you possibly think that's what I wanted? In your mind, wanting more accuracy = wanting auto aim? Aim assist isn't Auto Aim. So you missing = game is inaccurate? Yeah, we do have some problems with hit detection, but that has nothing to do with you having sh*tty aim with a forge gun. LOL Have you been in a battle with me, on either side? Nope, but I've been hit by enough Forge Guns to know that there are some very good users out there, apparently you're not one of them. So how would you know I'm not one of them if you haven't been in a game with me? That's like saying you can ice skate, then falling every 10 seconds when you do get on the ice. |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
308
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:48:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:So you are complaining you're missing? A forge gun uses velocity as a weapon it needs to actually hit to do all that damage. There is no explosives beyond the kinetic energy used in the weapon. Even with a muzzle velocity of 7k m/s you won't even know its there unless you're hit by it. I am not a heavy sooo aim at their feet? Tell me something I don't already know. Aim better? Stop being a ******.
You set yourself up for that one. I saw the opening and just slide right in there. It was for the lulz. Don't be so srs it's not healthy. A decent player would have laughed. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:48:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:So what you want is the forge gun to kill everything in one shot? With a muzzle velocity of 7k m/s is Mach 9 on Earth at sea level. A round with that much kinetic energy would invert whatever it hit with the pressure wave behind it. It would collapse buildings. Suck tank crews out the tiny exit hole. Scatter multiple bodies depending on the the path it was fired from. Balanced game play won't include an end all be all weapon. Tell me exactly where I said I want CCP to make the forge gun that powerful. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
528
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:48:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: So how would you know I'm not one of them if you haven't been in a game with me? That's like saying you can ice skate, then falling every 10 seconds when you do get on the ice.
Because you're complaining about your inability to hit things perhaps??? |
General Tiberius1
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:49:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:go away spkr, this thread had been highjacked and derailed into a forge gun convo!
(^_^) I started it as a forge gun conversation. Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
how'd you know
and i read the title and went off of that |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:50:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:So you are complaining you're missing? A forge gun uses velocity as a weapon it needs to actually hit to do all that damage. There is no explosives beyond the kinetic energy used in the weapon. Even with a muzzle velocity of 7k m/s you won't even know its there unless you're hit by it. I am not a heavy sooo aim at their feet? Tell me something I don't already know. Aim better? Stop being a ******. You set yourself up for that one. I saw the opening and just slide right in there. It was for the lulz. Don't be so srs it's not healthy. A decent player would have laughed. I made the thread when I was pissed off because I couldn't hit a tank that's close enough to hit with rocks without a suit on. |
General Tiberius1
Expert Intervention Caldari State
253
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:52:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Frote=Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Fraceska wrote:So you are complaining you're missing? A forge gun uses velocity as a weapon it needs to actually hit to do all that damage. There is no explosives beyond the kinetic energy used in the weapon. Even with a muzzle velocity of 7k m/s you won't even know its there unless you're hit by it. I am not a heavy sooo aim at their feet? Tell me something I don't already know. Aim better? Stop being a ******. You set yourself up for that one. I saw the opening and just slide right in there. It was for the lulz. Don't be so srs it's not healthy. A decent player would have laughed. I made the thread when I was pissed off because I couldn't hit a tank that's close enough to hit with rocks without a suit on.[/quote]
hypothetically, how far COULD i throw a rock with my power suit on? |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
309
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:53:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: I made the thread when I was pissed off because I couldn't hit a tank that's close enough to hit with rocks without a suit on.
So you where the one being a.... well I am to polite to call you that. So I shall whiny brat. And this forum is brutal make a post in rage and they will gobble you up like tomorrow and then feast on your tears.... and bone marrow. |
General Tiberius1
Expert Intervention Caldari State
253
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:54:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: I made the thread when I was pissed off because I couldn't hit a tank that's close enough to hit with rocks without a suit on.
So you where the one being a.... well I am to polite to call you that. So I shall whiny brat. And this forum is brutal make a post in rage and they will gobble you up like tomorrow and then feast on your tears.... and bone marrow.
mmmm bone marrow....oh wait, i'm not an ammar |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries
505
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Posted - 2013.03.21 04:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:Dropsuits aren't powerd exo suits ... The Heavy and Logistics suits are, actually. Cough* Logi suit is a space station repair suit... Its just a heavier armored version and better fitting of space suits nasa uses. The lore entry notes that it has a power assisted skeleton.
Or, it did. I can't find it on the official sight anymore. |
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