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lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 395	Posted - 2013.03.21 01:13:00 - [1] - Quote For some reason the Viziam turns me into a 12 yr old kid with a foul mouth. The wow factor tends to rock the sky high level when you are on a roll, and damn the bastard that kills you out of the blue bringing it to a halt! I highly suggest getting sepc into the LR. I have a feeling that the game will soon be over run with Viziam freaks and the world will never be the same http://youtu.be/2QKyNH6LEVM
Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 104	Posted - 2013.03.21 01:24:00 - [2] - Quote Good thing the people wielding a Viziam LR are weak as ****. Most of the time.
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 451	Posted - 2013.03.21 01:27:00 - [3] - Quote Well, this is like the 10th thread so far on the laser and about 5th on the Viziam specifically. Knowing CCP, that holds enough ground for an immediate nerf to be implemented quickly and silently through another stealth patch. Good Job guys.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 395	Posted - 2013.03.21 01:34:00 - [4] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: Good thing the people wielding a Viziam LR are weak as ****. Most of the time. no weaker than the AR glass cannons running around
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 395	Posted - 2013.03.21 01:35:00 - [5] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: Well, this is like the 10th thread so far on the laser and about 5th on the Viziam specifically. Knowing CCP, that holds enough ground for an immediate nerf to be implemented quickly and silently through another stealth patch. Good Job guys. yeah.....lets nerf everything...stick and stones will be fun. CCP knows what every weapon is capable of....
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3174	Posted - 2013.03.21 01:40:00 - [6] - Quote Wait until they have the Asault Sarum or Breach Khanid laser rifles.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 395	Posted - 2013.03.21 01:44:00 - [7] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Wait until they have the Asault Sarum or Breach Khanid laser rifles. I anxiously await that moment. I hope that 75% of the battlefield is LR. That will be a sight to see indeed!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 323	Posted - 2013.03.21 01:57:00 - [8] - Quote Another topic had a great suggestion for balancing the LR: increase the base damage, but then only have the damage increase from sustained shots on target. At the moment you can get around four kills in a single pull of a Viziam trigger, all because you can just cast the beam over a full squad like you're Kefka in FF6.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 396	Posted - 2013.03.21 02:08:00 - [9] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Another topic had a great suggestion for balancing the LR: increase the base damage, but then only have the damage increase from sustained shots on target. At the moment you can get around four kills in a single pull of a Viziam trigger, all because you can just cast the beam over a full squad like you're Kefka in FF6. Hmmm...a tank can take a whole squad out under the same circumstances...how we nerf that?
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1026	Posted - 2013.03.21 02:13:00 - [10] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Another topic had a great suggestion for balancing the LR: increase the base damage, but then only have the damage increase from sustained shots on target. At the moment you can get around four kills in a single pull of a Viziam trigger, all because you can just cast the beam over a full squad like you're Kefka in FF6. Hmmm...a tank can take a whole squad out under the same circumstances...how we nerf that? I single forge gun can kill the best tank. Maybe we should nerf forge guns.

Dusty Mokong ZionTCD Legacy Rising 61	Posted - 2013.03.21 02:16:00 - [11] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Another topic had a great suggestion for balancing the LR: increase the base damage, but then only have the damage increase from sustained shots on target. At the moment you can get around four kills in a single pull of a Viziam trigger, all because you can just cast the beam over a full squad like you're Kefka in FF6. Hmmm...a tank can take a whole squad out under the same circumstances...how we nerf that? I don't like nerfs so don't get me wrong ... but your logic is just wrong .... A tank has to be called in, cost 500k to 2M ISK and is a huge ass target. A viziam is ..... nuff said.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.03.21 02:38:00 - [12] - Quote Dusty Mokong wrote: lowratehitman wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Another topic had a great suggestion for balancing the LR: increase the base damage, but then only have the damage increase from sustained shots on target. At the moment you can get around four kills in a single pull of a Viziam trigger, all because you can just cast the beam over a full squad like you're Kefka in FF6. Hmmm...a tank can take a whole squad out under the same circumstances...how we nerf that? I don't like nerfs so don't get me wrong ... but your logic is just wrong .... A tank has to be called in, cost 500k to 2M ISK and is a huge ass target. A viziam is ..... nuff said. My build on a assault B series is roughly 130 k isk...and I have no where near as much armor as a tank. Lets look at it like this. It is the sp that is invested in which makes it powerfull. Example: drop a tank that has been built by a person that has 1 million sp vs a person that has 6 million sp. Who is more likely to win? I like many others spec in assault with our sp and the LR falls under the light weapon. Its the sp invested and how its invested that makes any weapon powerfull.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 90	Posted - 2013.03.21 02:47:00 - [13] - Quote I just upgraded to the ELM.. is the viziam that much better? I am running 2xComplex L Dam Mods as well and it seems to burn people up just as quick as your on your vid.
Beld Errmon UnReaL. 543	Posted - 2013.03.21 02:49:00 - [14] - Quote I've gotta respect people that use the laser, I can't stand the thing, I prefer having a weapon that doesn't require me to be at a Goldilocks range or wait twice as long to kill someone, its strange cause I rather like fighting at the stand off range the laser prefers but its the whole heating up the laser part I really dislike.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 90	Posted - 2013.03.21 02:55:00 - [15] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: I've gotta respect people that use the laser, I can't stand the thing, I prefer having a weapon that doesn't require me to be at a Goldilocks range or wait twice as long to kill someone, its strange cause I rather like fighting at the stand off range the laser prefers but its the whole heating up the laser part I really dislike. It looks like with a viziam (thus LR skill LV 5) you don;t have to worry about overheating :D And that actually answers my Q. That's def why it's better than an Elm.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 323	Posted - 2013.03.21 02:58:00 - [16] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Another topic had a great suggestion for balancing the LR: increase the base damage, but then only have the damage increase from sustained shots on target. At the moment you can get around four kills in a single pull of a Viziam trigger, all because you can just cast the beam over a full squad like you're Kefka in FF6. Hmmm...a tank can take a whole squad out under the same circumstances...how we nerf that? Well you could give them an enormous hitbox, introduce weapons that lock on to them, and make them massively more expensive. Just a few ideas.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.03.21 03:00:00 - [17] - Quote mollerz wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: I've gotta respect people that use the laser, I can't stand the thing, I prefer having a weapon that doesn't require me to be at a Goldilocks range or wait twice as long to kill someone, its strange cause I rather like fighting at the stand off range the laser prefers but its the whole heating up the laser part I really dislike. It looks like with a viziam (thus LR skill LV 5) you don;t have to worry about overheating :D And that actually answers my Q. That's def why it's better than an Elm. It overheats on me if I get carried away,though minimal management on this level will and does eliminate overheating.
Beld Errmon UnReaL. 543	Posted - 2013.03.21 03:01:00 - [18] - Quote You did pretty well (I actually watched the video) but you'd do 3 times better with a KB/M watching you play reminded me of trying to move 20 year old CCTV cameras around with a little inch long joystick, is it really the meta to run around in those **** weak tankless suits? its surprising the nubsnipers weren't one shotting you.
DJINN Marauder Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 369	Posted - 2013.03.21 03:18:00 - [19] - Quote Damn... 1-3 ammo left in the clip of the viziam insta killed some one
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 53	Posted - 2013.03.21 03:51:00 - [20] - Quote Grinding till B-Series to get this baby.

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 749	Posted - 2013.03.21 03:56:00 - [21] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Wait until they have the Asault Sarum or Breach Khanid laser rifles. I anxiously await that moment. I hope that 75% of the battlefield is LR. That will be a sight to see indeed! I once had a match where 8 people were using LR's, it was ridiculous especially since all the LR users (myself included) kept concentrating fire, i'm telling you you haven't seen how quickly someone can die until you watch someone get hit by 4 beams simultaneously. It was scary a heavy would step out of cover and be dead inside of 3 seconds. god knows the carnage a squad of viziams could unleash with good positioning.
Robert Brady III L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 30	Posted - 2013.03.21 04:04:00 - [22] - Quote The laser rifle also has two pretty significant weaknesses. Once you engage a target, everyone in that area knows where to find you and you attract a lot of attention. Also, once someone gets in your minimum range you become extremely vulnerable. Lastly this is not necessarily a weakness in general since it applies to all weapons but the AR, there are some maps that limit your placement to effectively engage targets, often leaving your flanks and rear exposed.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 398	Posted - 2013.03.21 04:18:00 - [23] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: You did pretty well (I actually watched the video) but you'd do 3 times better with a KB/M watching you play reminded me of trying to move 20 year old CCTV cameras around with a little inch long joystick, is it really the meta to run around in those **** weak tankless suits? its surprising the nubsnipers weren't one shotting you. I try to make the best out of what I got. if you think my aim is bad now, it would be x3 worse with kb/m lol
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 398	Posted - 2013.03.21 04:20:00 - [24] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Damn... 1-3 ammo left in the clip of the viziam insta killed some one I got excited over that but it appears that someone perhaps sniped the guy or damaged him as I was burning his flesh.
Enkidu Camuel The Tritan Industries 74	Posted - 2013.03.21 07:40:00 - [25] - Quote As a dedicated LR user, I have to say that I'm not too interested in the Viziam, the ELM works perfectly for me, why? because LR's are the only weapon untouched by CCP, and months ago a dev in the IRC DUST channel hinted a possible tweak for the LR's in future updates (after a massive forum QQ thread flood about nerfing LR's) which means if CCP tweaks hardly or nerf the LR's totally (destroying the weapon just like they did with the missiles) it will be good to know (at least for me) that I only have LR ops lvl 3 instead of LR ops lvl 5, because having a weapon operations up to lvl 5 for a useless weapon... well, it's going to be a major waste of SP, without forgetting the massive ammount of rage that will generate in the forums, if CCP doesn't give us a nasty surprise in the future with the LR's, then I'll upgrade to get my Viziam. But here's my question guys, what would you guys do if CCP tweaks hardly or nerf heavily the LR's?
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 400	Posted - 2013.03.21 09:34:00 - [26] - Quote Enkidu Camuel wrote: As a dedicated LR user, I have to say that I'm not too interested in the Viziam, the ELM works perfectly for me, why? because LR's are the only weapon untouched by CCP, and months ago a dev in the IRC DUST channel hinted a possible tweak for the LR's in future updates (after a massive forum QQ thread flood about nerfing LR's) which means if CCP tweaks hardly or nerf the LR's totally (destroying the weapon just like they did with the missiles) it will be good to know (at least for me) that I only have LR ops lvl 3 instead of LR ops lvl 5, because having a weapon operations up to lvl 5 for a useless weapon... well, it's going to be a major waste of SP, without forgetting the massive ammount of rage that will generate in the forums, if CCP doesn't give us a nasty surprise in the future with the LR's, then I'll upgrade to get my Viziam. But here's my question guys, what would you guys do if CCP tweaks hardly or nerf heavily the LR's? My answere is that I would take the ohh well apporach, it was a blast while it lasted! I always have my proto nerfed AR to play with!
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 92	Posted - 2013.03.22 01:41:00 - [27] - Quote I was running around with my lazer when what do I hear? Another laser.... and then I notice lowratehitman kills with the viziam flying across the kill feed. I joined him on the roof and had a blast crossing my streams with him. He got 25-0! If you ever want to see why a viziam is good, hang out on a roof with him. I'm sold.
Skihids The Tritan Industries 1062	Posted - 2013.03.22 02:05:00 - [28] - Quote I don't get why the weapon does more damage the longer it is fired rather than the longer it is on target. I can see the longer on target the greater the heat buildup on the target and the greater damage as a result. But the beam getting more powerful the longer it is fired doesn't make sense. If anything, a weapon that overheats gets less efficient as it heats up as the parts go past their rated specs. It's possible CCP meant it to work the way, but it doesn't make sense.
Pseudonym0 Free Guard of Arrakis 0	Posted - 2013.03.22 08:12:00 - [29] - Quote The reason it gives you that feeling is because it's overpowered, that's why everyone is starting to use them, they're realizing there's no point going up against someone with a laser rifle unless you can manage to catch them from behind. Seriously guys, you'd be mad if they nerfed this thing? It's a constant fire, 100% accurate, no wavering, spray and pray sniper rifle that also works moderately well at closer ranges and could probably drop a tank quicker than any forge gun with the right skills. I'm sorry, but when you've got a gun that you don't even really have to aim and you can drop me quicker than a chaingun at close range or the best sniper rifle out there, there's a problem. If you have a problem with a nerf, here's a suggestion, learn how to aim like the rest of the long rang shooters.
Repe Susi Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 304	Posted - 2013.03.22 08:13:00 - [30] - Quote mollerz wrote: I joined him on the roof and had a blast crossing my streams with him. I'm sold. Eww.. And what about those Logi golden showers? Double EWW.



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