DUST Search - ??? TRADEING ??? when ccp

Kleanur Guy wrote:

G Torq wrote:

Disturbingly Bored wrote:

God Hates Lags wrote:

A dust to Eve market would not be simple by any means, and creating such a thing at this time would essentially reopen dust to eve money transfers, something CCP has already said they would not do at this time.

A dust only market is probably more likely, but really, what's the point when 90% of all items can only be bought or sold at a fixed price from CCP already, so why would you ever pay more for something that that.

We need something much, much simpler than either of those.

I have Krin's ARs, you have Gastun's HMGs. I give you mine, you give me yours. That is all we need, and that is dead simple to implement.

Because that isn't what they (and we?) want or are targetting, and doing THIS would only take resources away from the actually planned and desired features.

I think you should read the post again. Implementing a full market system with EVE included would destroy Dust 514s currency, much like it did when EVE players could give random Dust players billions of ISK. A simple trading system would be the best thing for now.

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1ANONLYRIDER Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.03.20 11:22:00 - [1] - Quote when can we start to trade and sell things TRADE = to people only and SELL = to people and back to market its self for isk even if you payed aur if you sell your aur stuff you bought back to the market you will only get isk back no refunds on aur you will only get isk back but be able to trade aur stuff to people for aur and isk stuff for isk when i say this should have been done along time ago
Three Double-A Batteries Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 77	Posted - 2013.03.20 11:27:00 - [2] - Quote Not until the propensity modelling for P2W purchases is complete. Or never. Seems strange that something so relatively simple hasn't been implemented.
Calgoth Reborn United Front LLC 164	Posted - 2013.03.20 11:36:00 - [3] - Quote Three Double-A Batteries wrote: Not until the propensity modelling for P2W purchases is complete. Or never. Seems strange that something so relatively simple hasn't been implemented. Really you know so much that you think it is simple so tell me what game you developed that gives you such insight so I can go check it out or do you work for CCP as a DEV and just didn't tell us. People like you are just a pain in the ass always saying oh this is simple and easy how come you haven't done it yet and you have Zero idea what's really involved in the coding of the game itself so here have a cup of STFU Mister forum warrior
Three Double-A Batteries Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 77	Posted - 2013.03.20 11:47:00 - [4] - Quote Calgoth Reborn wrote: Three Double-A Batteries wrote: Not until the propensity modelling for P2W purchases is complete. Or never. Seems strange that something so relatively simple hasn't been implemented. Really you know so much that you think it is simple so tell me what game you developed that gives you such insight so I can go check it out or do you work for CCP as a DEV and just didn't tell us. People like you are just a pain in the ass always saying oh this is simple and easy how come you haven't done it yet and you have Zero idea what's really involved in the coding of the game itself so here have a cup of STFU Mister forum warrior That's a bit aggressive for someone who has no idea what I do, who I have worked for or what AAA titles I have worked on. Amazing that people from gaming companies might actually frequent OTHER games company forums. Is your mind blown? It seems that you are being the only forum warrior type here. Derailing this thread, engaging in personal abuse. I would say you are quite the hypocrite Mr Calgoth Reborn.
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming 356	Posted - 2013.03.20 11:49:00 - [5] - Quote Soon
God Hates Lags ZionTCD Legacy Rising 5	Posted - 2013.03.20 11:54:00 - [6] - Quote Three Double-A Batteries wrote: Not until the propensity modelling for P2W purchases is complete. Or never. Seems strange that something so relatively simple hasn't been implemented. A dust to Eve market would not be simple by any means, and creating such a thing at this time would essentially reopen dust to eve money transfers, something CCP has already said they would not do at this time. A dust only market is probably more likely, but really, what's the point when 90% of all items can only be bought or sold at a fixed price from CCP already, so why would you ever pay more for something that that.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 303	Posted - 2013.03.20 12:00:00 - [7] - Quote Looks like its going to be controlled by "CLONE supply" so its controlled dust side. Also stops the trillionairs swamping the economy
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 170	Posted - 2013.03.20 12:34:00 - [8] - Quote God Hates Lags wrote: A dust to Eve market would not be simple by any means, and creating such a thing at this time would essentially reopen dust to eve money transfers, something CCP has already said they would not do at this time. A dust only market is probably more likely, but really, what's the point when 90% of all items can only be bought or sold at a fixed price from CCP already, so why would you ever pay more for something that that. We need something much, much simpler than either of those. I have Krin's ARs, you have Gastun's HMGs. I give you mine, you give me yours. That is all we need, and that is dead simple to implement. Fricken flash games like Realm of the Mad God have no problem doing it. I can't see why CCP is incapable.
Mortal Maximus KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 15	Posted - 2013.03.20 12:59:00 - [9] - Quote hey chromebreaker, i know this is off topic but what do you specialize in? O.o
G Torq ALTA B2O 101	Posted - 2013.03.20 13:25:00 - [10] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: God Hates Lags wrote: A dust to Eve market would not be simple by any means, and creating such a thing at this time would essentially reopen dust to eve money transfers, something CCP has already said they would not do at this time. A dust only market is probably more likely, but really, what's the point when 90% of all items can only be bought or sold at a fixed price from CCP already, so why would you ever pay more for something that that. We need something much, much simpler than either of those. I have Krin's ARs, you have Gastun's HMGs. I give you mine, you give me yours. That is all we need, and that is dead simple to implement. Fricken flash games like Realm of the Mad God have no problem doing it. I can't see why CCP is incapable. Because that isn't what they (and we?) want or are targetting, and doing THIS would only take resources away from the actually planned and desired features.

N1ck Comeau Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 108	Posted - 2013.03.20 13:54:00 - [11] - Quote Three Double-A Batteries wrote: Not until the propensity modelling for P2W purchases is complete. Or never. Seems strange that something so relatively simple hasn't been implemented. Anything to do with making and developing games is never simple
Kleanur Guy SyNergy Gaming 175	Posted - 2013.03.20 14:21:00 - [12] - Quote G Torq wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: God Hates Lags wrote: A dust to Eve market would not be simple by any means, and creating such a thing at this time would essentially reopen dust to eve money transfers, something CCP has already said they would not do at this time. A dust only market is probably more likely, but really, what's the point when 90% of all items can only be bought or sold at a fixed price from CCP already, so why would you ever pay more for something that that. We need something much, much simpler than either of those. I have Krin's ARs, you have Gastun's HMGs. I give you mine, you give me yours. That is all we need, and that is dead simple to implement. Fricken flash games like Realm of the Mad God have no problem doing it. I can't see why CCP is incapable. Because that isn't what they (and we?) want or are targetting, and doing THIS would only take resources away from the actually planned and desired features. I think you should read the post again. Implementing a full market system with EVE included would destroy Dust 514s currency, much like it did when EVE players could give random Dust players billions of ISK. A simple trading system would be the best thing for now.
Superluminal Replicant Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 36	Posted - 2013.03.20 14:37:00 - [13] - Quote They could at least let us vendor items (NPC sell) for something like 50% of the market value in the next build. That wouldn't take much effort to add, just hate having all this junk in my assets and cant do anything with it.
G Torq ALTA B2O 101	Posted - 2013.03.20 15:18:00 - [14] - Quote Kleanur Guy wrote: G Torq wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: God Hates Lags wrote: A dust to Eve market would not be simple by any means, and creating such a thing at this time would essentially reopen dust to eve money transfers, something CCP has already said they would not do at this time. A dust only market is probably more likely, but really, what's the point when 90% of all items can only be bought or sold at a fixed price from CCP already, so why would you ever pay more for something that that. We need something much, much simpler than either of those. I have Krin's ARs, you have Gastun's HMGs. I give you mine, you give me yours. That is all we need, and that is dead simple to implement. Because that isn't what they (and we?) want or are targetting, and doing THIS would only take resources away from the actually planned and desired features. I think you should read the post again. Implementing a full market system with EVE included would destroy Dust 514s currency, much like it did when EVE players could give random Dust players billions of ISK. A simple trading system would be the best thing for now. The request from Disturbingly Bored is to have a system for swapping parts. That is less than what I think CCP should target for. Yes, I did read the observation that a full market system WITH EVE INCLUDED (emphasis mine) would destroy Dust's [economy]. You'll note, when you learn to read and comprehend, that at no point did I say that Eve Integration is required at this stage. I also said nothing about needing a full market or economy at this point. in fact, only thing I observed was that swapping things is below the threshold of what CCP should target for in a first attempt at a market, and that it would be a waste of resources. Why a waste? Because it would require mechanics that are plausibly not required at a later stage of the system. sigh
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 303	Posted - 2013.03.20 15:52:00 - [15] - Quote Mortal Maximus wrote: hey chromebreaker, i know this is off topic but what do you specialize in? O.o Heavy, FG or HMG... but dabble in mass drivers when the mood takes me Why? Edit: I can make dropships dance to a tune too, but dont use them... not worth it atm
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 170	Posted - 2013.03.20 15:55:00 - [16] - Quote G Torq wrote: Why a waste? Because it would require mechanics that are plausibly not required at a later stage of the system. sigh Nonsense. You can easily swap items in EVE Online without requiring a market transaction. It's a basic, easy to implement feature that would be in use for eternity. And it would be an acceptable stop-gap while CCP takes their usual year or so before implementing a full market. I can't speak for you, but I hate having a vault full of stuff I can't use when I know a corp mate who could use it right now.


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