DUST Search - War Council (Beta) Speculation Thread

Vermaak Doe wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Vermaak Doe wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Vaerana Myshtana wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber - maybe, does transcripts
Kain Spero - yes, did community events
Bojo the Mighty - no
KalOfTheRathi - no
Vermaak Doe - no
Free Healing - no
Maken Tosch - no
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf - no
Garret Blacknova - no
Nova Knife - no
Grideris/Gridboss - no, biased as ****
xprotoman23 - no
Regnum DEI - no
Beren Hurin - no
Pays 2 Win - no
Icy Tiger - no
Free Beers - no
Mithridates VI - no
Mavado V Noriega - yes, for tank/AV balancing
Contrabanjoe - no
DUST Fiend - no
gbghg - no
Sentient Archon - no

This really shows that your opinion is terrible. Having a no for me is absolutely ok but no to Maken Tosch and KAGEHOSHI horned wolf! Biomass yourself

Who is maken and kage spurts out ideas, good or bad but that doesnt make em a good candiate

That isn't what makes them good candidates, it's their levelheadedness and ability too provide logical reasons behind those ideas

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Veritas Vitae Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz 80	Posted - 2013.03.19 04:22:00 - [31] - Quote I am interested to see who CCP thinks will be good candidates, as well as who their successors will be. I think it will be interesting if a low-profile person with solid commitment and logic gets added, because that will give them more exposure and also potentially bring stability and/or moderation to the table. Ultimately for it to strike a balance, we will need creativity tempered with reality, blending Lore and Mechanics into one. Hopefully the first council isn't a cluster **** and builds a good reputation early, but for some reason I doubt that will happen.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 277	Posted - 2013.03.19 04:35:00 - [32] - Quote I saw that the Dust University guy didn't get it. He posted in the original thread. I like the selfless people who try to improve people's experience. Don't care so much for the ego driven ones, but sometimes they are the ones that really chew through the mechanics to figure them out at a deeper level.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 78	Posted - 2013.03.19 06:28:00 - [33] - Quote Id throw my name in there but only from a strict dust standpoint. I don't play eve and thusly don't understand it. But I do understand dust. Was one of the first people in closed beta, hell I was in the first match of the closed beta. I also have almost every skill unlocked and leveled to some degree. I'm a multipurpose battlefield asset. Can't stand politics though. Too much lying and self interest. That and I'm probably not forum leet enough. I usually just leave my insight on the dust Facebook group, which just hit 600 members :D
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 532	Posted - 2013.03.19 06:34:00 - [34] - Quote Could I just out this on record and say Dust uni < Bojo's school of the trades.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1217	Posted - 2013.03.19 07:04:00 - [35] - Quote Seeing people suggest Regnum or Xprotoman just made me lol so hard i cried It's like asking for problems and even bigger god complex people on dust.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 311	Posted - 2013.03.19 10:36:00 - [36] - Quote Veritas Vitae wrote: I am interested to see who CCP thinks will be good candidates, as well as who their successors will be. I think it will be interesting if a low-profile person with solid commitment and logic gets added, because that will give them more exposure and also potentially bring stability and/or moderation to the table. How would a low profile person ever get chosen? You would need to have at least a high enough profile to get noticed to even be considered.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 146	Posted - 2013.03.19 10:38:00 - [37] - Quote Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Iron Wolf Saber - maybe, does transcripts Kain Spero - yes, did community events Bojo the Mighty - no KalOfTheRathi - no Vermaak Doe - no Free Healing - no Maken Tosch - no KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf - no Garret Blacknova - no Nova Knife - no Grideris/Gridboss - no, biased as **** xprotoman23 - no Regnum DEI - no Beren Hurin - no Pays 2 Win - no Icy Tiger - no Free Beers - no Mithridates VI - no Mavado V Noriega - yes, for tank/AV balancing Contrabanjoe - no DUST Fiend - no gbghg - no Sentient Archon - no
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 376	Posted - 2013.03.19 11:19:00 - [38] - Quote this thread made me lol.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 277	Posted - 2013.03.19 11:24:00 - [39] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Could I just out this on record and say Dust uni < Bojo's school of the trades. Yep, totally. TBH, I haven't really seen to much of the Dust Uni people which isn't saying much. I kind of (maybe wrongly?) just assumed they carried their general philosophy and leadership about the game from Eve.
Three Double-A Batteries Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 76	Posted - 2013.03.19 12:03:00 - [40] - Quote Just going to state now that I predict this process will simply descend into farce. There was only one effective CSM ever. CCP have changed that so that it won't happen again and they won't let your little Dust club house be too effective either. Just an opinion based on many years of observation.

deGoodMan Vacuum Cleaner. LLC 0	Posted - 2013.03.19 12:32:00 - [41] - Quote Hi, everyone I am representing Vacuum Cleaner LLC, a corporation from the Russian-speaking community. I was just hoping that you, people, do not forget that there are other communities like ours and there are people who are making significant effort to bring new players into game and get some other important things done. As for Russian-speaking community, I want to nominate dalt ud - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=582653#post582653 (his recruitment post for VC LLC) He helped to popularize dust514 outside of EVE community. Being a console FPS vet (battlefield series), he was (is) one the leaders of a worldwide top BF team Legend of Dragoons, he helped to bring several experienced and skilled console FPS players into game. And made several feedbacks and bug reports here, trying to contact devs. He even participated and played one of major roles in a live stream organized by Kanobu network - popular Russian gaming social network. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wueWT9byos8 I hope this will be noticed and our vote counted. Looking for future cooperation. deGoodMan, Vacuum Cleaner LLC
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 537	Posted - 2013.03.19 12:36:00 - [42] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Iron Wolf Saber - maybe, does transcripts Kain Spero - yes, did community events Bojo the Mighty - no KalOfTheRathi - no Vermaak Doe - no Free Healing - no Maken Tosch - no KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf - no Garret Blacknova - no Nova Knife - no Grideris/Gridboss - no, biased as **** xprotoman23 - no Regnum DEI - no Beren Hurin - no Pays 2 Win - no Icy Tiger - no Free Beers - no Mithridates VI - no Mavado V Noriega - yes, for tank/AV balancing Contrabanjoe - no DUST Fiend - no gbghg - no Sentient Archon - no This really shows that your opinion is terrible. Having a no for me is absolutely ok but no to Maken Tosch and KAGEHOSHI horned wolf! Biomass yourself
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 537	Posted - 2013.03.19 12:37:00 - [43] - Quote Btw Thanks for putting me on that list!
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 146	Posted - 2013.03.19 13:07:00 - [44] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Iron Wolf Saber - maybe, does transcripts Kain Spero - yes, did community events Bojo the Mighty - no KalOfTheRathi - no Vermaak Doe - no Free Healing - no Maken Tosch - no KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf - no Garret Blacknova - no Nova Knife - no Grideris/Gridboss - no, biased as **** xprotoman23 - no Regnum DEI - no Beren Hurin - no Pays 2 Win - no Icy Tiger - no Free Beers - no Mithridates VI - no Mavado V Noriega - yes, for tank/AV balancing Contrabanjoe - no DUST Fiend - no gbghg - no Sentient Archon - no This really shows that your opinion is terrible. Having a no for me is absolutely ok but no to Maken Tosch and KAGEHOSHI horned wolf! Biomass yourself Who is maken and kage spurts out ideas, good or bad but that doesnt make em a good candiate
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 428	Posted - 2013.03.19 14:43:00 - [45] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Who is maken and kage spurts out ideas, good or bad but that doesnt make em a good candiate Do you have people you think aren't being considered? I'd be happy to add people to the list. I'm not judging, just listing people who might be nominated.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 543	Posted - 2013.03.19 14:46:00 - [46] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Iron Wolf Saber - maybe, does transcripts Kain Spero - yes, did community events Bojo the Mighty - no KalOfTheRathi - no Vermaak Doe - no Free Healing - no Maken Tosch - no KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf - no Garret Blacknova - no Nova Knife - no Grideris/Gridboss - no, biased as **** xprotoman23 - no Regnum DEI - no Beren Hurin - no Pays 2 Win - no Icy Tiger - no Free Beers - no Mithridates VI - no Mavado V Noriega - yes, for tank/AV balancing Contrabanjoe - no DUST Fiend - no gbghg - no Sentient Archon - no This really shows that your opinion is terrible. Having a no for me is absolutely ok but no to Maken Tosch and KAGEHOSHI horned wolf! Biomass yourself Who is maken and kage spurts out ideas, good or bad but that doesnt make em a good candiate That isn't what makes them good candidates, it's their levelheadedness and ability too provide logical reasons behind those ideas
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 698	Posted - 2013.03.19 15:11:00 - [47] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Iron Wolf Saber - maybe, does transcripts Kain Spero - yes, did community events Bojo the Mighty - no KalOfTheRathi - no Vermaak Doe - no Free Healing - no Maken Tosch - no KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf - no Garret Blacknova - no Nova Knife - no Grideris/Gridboss - no, biased as **** xprotoman23 - no Regnum DEI - no Beren Hurin - no Pays 2 Win - no Icy Tiger - no Free Beers - no Mithridates VI - no Mavado V Noriega - yes, for tank/AV balancing Contrabanjoe - no DUST Fiend - no gbghg - no Sentient Archon - no This really shows that your opinion is terrible. Having a no for me is absolutely ok but no to Maken Tosch and KAGEHOSHI horned wolf! Biomass yourself Who is maken and kage spurts out ideas, good or bad but that doesnt make em a good candiate That isn't what makes them good candidates, it's their levelheadedness and ability too provide logical reasons behind those ideas How could you say no to free healing and berin huin, their some of the most intelligent and helpful players in this game
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 543	Posted - 2013.03.19 15:16:00 - [48] - Quote I didn't say no, I wouldn't mind them being on the council but I dom't know enough about them to particularly support them even though I would encourage them to run
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 698	Posted - 2013.03.19 15:22:00 - [49] - Quote Sorry that was directed at takiro not you vermaak
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 150	Posted - 2013.03.19 15:43:00 - [50] - Quote Easy I havnt seen enough of them to warrent a place, a few ideas here and ther doesnt mean **, if it does then im also on the list which you will find lolworthy Ive also explained any ideas ive had logically mostly, so am i included? lolno i havnt done enough and neither have these lot either What ever happens with the 'war council' we wont get a say and i believe that CCP may pick a few ppl not right for the job which will make it worse If it was down to player voting at least i could deal with the wrong ppl on the council because it was down to a vote Either way if it does go up ** creek we the playerbase lose out and the game does too

DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 2097	Posted - 2013.03.19 15:47:00 - [51] - Quote I'm very eager to find out who made it onto the War Council, and over the coming months and years I hope to prove that I'm worthy enough to hold a seat on the Council as well. For right now though, I agree that there are much better candidates for the job, and I have a whole lot left to learn about this.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 543	Posted - 2013.03.19 16:25:00 - [52] - Quote There's a reason I only listed a few people, I've seen them contribute much longer and more often than you
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2024	Posted - 2013.03.19 17:19:00 - [53] - Quote If there is no good candidate for emo ranting, I will happily step up :)
Gridboss BetaMax. CRONOS. 190	Posted - 2013.03.19 19:35:00 - [54] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Easy I havnt seen enough of them to warrent a place, a few ideas here and ther doesnt mean **, if it does then im also on the list which you will find lolworthy Ive also explained any ideas ive had logically mostly, so am i included? lolno i havnt done enough and neither have these lot either What ever happens with the 'war council' we wont get a say and i believe that CCP may pick a few ppl not right for the job which will make it worse If it was down to player voting at least i could deal with the wrong ppl on the council because it was down to a vote Either way if it does go up ** creek we the playerbase lose out and the game does too One of the primary tasks of the first "War Council" is to help CCP implement a system so that every council after them is elected by the playerbase. Plus at this stage CCP is just short listing people. They're still going to interview them and do further investigation before they pick their final candidates.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2075	Posted - 2013.03.19 19:55:00 - [55] - Quote I'm... not sure why I'm on the list. I mostly throw myself into the role of contrarian/devil's advocate where I can see a potential gap in the weave of someone's logic. Nothing I've contributed would be of any value without someone else creating the scenario into which I'm stepping. Even when I'm creating threads, they're usually spinning off from someone else's suggestion in another thread that put my mind onto a slightly different track from the main topic. If CCP did approach me (and they haven't), I'd probably go with it, because I think it would be pretty cool, and because I think I'd probably be capable of living up to the responsibilities of such a position, but I'd be more surprised at them approaching me than I am to see my name on here. Especially after that stupid birthday stunt I pulled a few hours ago. That was so unprofessional.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 450	Posted - 2013.03.19 19:59:00 - [56] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Especially after that stupid birthday stunt I pulled a few hours ago. That was so unprofessional. Happy Birthday! CCP should invite just because you're turning old and grey now.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 619	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:14:00 - [57] - Quote To be honest, Vaerana should be in the Council Beta because of the firm grasp on integrating Eve and Dust.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 450	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:30:00 - [58] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: To be honest, Vaerana should be in the Council Beta because of the firm grasp on integrating Eve and Dust. Oh dear Kitten... I can't even hit the broad side of a barn. Besides, no email for me either.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 324	Posted - 2013.03.20 10:31:00 - [59] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I'm... not sure why I'm on the list. I mostly throw myself into the role of contrarian/devil's advocate where I can see a potential gap in the weave of someone's logic. Nothing I've contributed would be of any value without someone else creating the scenario into which I'm stepping. Even when I'm creating threads, they're usually spinning off from someone else's suggestion in another thread that put my mind onto a slightly different track from the main topic. If CCP did approach me (and they haven't), I'd probably go with it, because I think it would be pretty cool, and because I think I'd probably be capable of living up to the responsibilities of such a position, but I'd be more surprised at them approaching me than I am to see my name on here. Especially after that stupid birthday stunt I pulled a few hours ago. That was so unprofessional. The War Council needs people who can pick apart CCP's ideas and plans and analyse every tiny detail until it works. Not everyone has to have great amazing ideas all the time - some analytical thinkers are needed to make sure the creative thinkers are coming up with good/workable/sensible proposals. Like I said previously (possibly in another thread somewhere), the council should be partially appointed and partially elected. The appointed people are chosen for their knowledge, expertise and experience. The elected are representatives of the entire player community. The two sides work together with either having a veto over any proposals (like the UK Houses of Lords and Commons). The elected representatives can bring ideas and concerns/opinions from the community and the appointed guys analyse and feedback on these ideas whether they are plausible or what could be done to make them work better. I for one am disappointed and surprised you weren't shortlisted.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 701	Posted - 2013.04.20 02:58:00 - [60] - Quote Well, we got a few of them... Of course, we had a lot of false positives, too. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/dust-514-council-of-planetary-management-1/



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