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Drake435
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:12:00 -
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I'm personally lost as to what to use now. AV grenades are so fulfilling when you blow up tanks and LAVs in a couple of 'nades but not every match do I see vehicles.
Flux and locus can be used in more situations if you are able to know the timing of "cooking" the 'nade. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:13:00 -
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flux with my MD, locus with my LR, and AV with my AV fit |
icdedppul
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:16:00 -
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you have room for grenades?
stupid scout suit |
Drake435
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:16:00 -
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gbghg wrote:flux with my MD, locus with my LR, and AV with my AV fit
That makes a lot of sense. But which would fit an AR best? Flux or locus? |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:17:00 -
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Technically speaking, flux have the most opportunities for use, but they won't kill anyone. Locus are generally the safest bet for getting kills, while AV could possibly earn you the most WP of the three.
I use locus, though. |
Drake435
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:17:00 -
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icdedppul wrote:you have room for grenades?
stupid scout suit
Currently, my ADV assault suit is at the CPU limit so I'm skilling into other skills to make room. I'm not complaining with the fitting I have right now though since a Dulovile with 2x complex light dmg mods wreck things easily. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:18:00 -
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Depends who is countering you harder.
Scouts and proto - Flux
Heavys - Locus |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:18:00 -
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AR is really however you want it to go. It isbalmost equally effective against shields and armor so either way you could go.
I personally would use locus grenadds because they deal direct damage. (Aside from the rare buy whre the flux nade insta pops people) |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:19:00 -
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Drake435 wrote:gbghg wrote:flux with my MD, locus with my LR, and AV with my AV fit That makes a lot of sense. But which would fit an AR best? Flux or locus?
depends, flux is only useful against shields but AR's strip them pretty quickly anyway, whereas locus are more adaptable, you can use them against everything. I personally would fit locus. |
Drake435
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:22:00 -
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Rupture Reaperson wrote:Depends who is countering you harder.
Scouts and proto - Flux
Heavys - Locus
Its amazing to see how quick an Imperfect player goes down after getting hit by a flux grenade.
Actually, many players have said that shields > armor so I believe most of these players stack shields. I guess flux would do it for me then. Just wish that their explosion animation was accurate with their actual blast radius. It's quite misleading.
EDIT: Nvm. Locus does more damage to armor and since it actually does direct damage, if the explosion damage is greater than shield HP, most likely that player would die too since any extra damage would spill over to the armor HP. |
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Dany 7A5H
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:27:00 -
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With the amount of hate myself & some other dedicated meta tankers have been feeling lately, I can say with proof of experience that over 50% of non starter-fit mercs run Av on the regular...
That being said swarms and forges don't do much, but homing av nades doing extreme damage is pure scary. We all already know that ;-). Not to mention the ease of getting packed AVs.
Personally, I run Locus.
Fly safe |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:29:00 -
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AV myself, every time I take them off I get run over by an lav, and go back to av's.
I can shoot everything else, and find myself wanting to blow up lavs far more often then I want to toss a grenade into cover. |
Drake435
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:30:00 -
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Dany 7A5H wrote:With the amount of hate myself & some other dedicated meta tankers have been feeling lately, I can say with proof of experience that over 50% of non starter-fit mercs run Av on the regular...
That being said swarms and forges don't do much, but homing av nades doing extreme damage is pure scary. We all already know that ;-). Not to mention the ease of getting packed AVs.
Personally, I run Locus.
Fly safe
I feel ya. I tried a militia tank to see if tanks would be something I would be interested in skilling in but.....4 players chucking AV 'nades......my tank didn't last 6 seconds. |
Slash Frenzy
HYDRA.
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:37:00 -
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As I'm mostly playing Scout/Shottie on this toon I pack AV. For everything else my shotgun is sufficient. o/ |
Dany 7A5H
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:41:00 -
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@Drake435
In my personal view, any shield tank (unless possibly-rail fit) as well as the soma isn't exactly a tank :-).
The soma cannot take on a single dedicated swarmer, as such I cannot recommend using that experience as a deciding factor on whether to tank or not.
In comparison my Madruger can take on and overcome multiple tanks, a Surya, as well as Ranged AV. AV Nades seriously hurt, so you got to keep at an optimal range beyond their falloff.
It's a lot of fun, much harder/more tactical than most people think. It is expensive and requires a lot of commitment.
A dedicated squad is also incredibly important.
Talk to Lurch or Zdwg, riding in a meta tank or having 1 dropped for you is a much better "test".
Fly safe |
Sports Dude
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:52:00 -
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I have Suits with AV And Locus, but mainly use the AV. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.03.17 19:58:00 -
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Primarily Locus Grenades since I learnt that cooking them off kills red dots. But for more tactical engagements I use Flux Grenades since I tend to run with a squad with atleast one heavy. |
Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.17 20:14:00 -
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Exploding on impact locus.
I'm a dirty dirty person. |
Thumb Green
Starship Troppers
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Posted - 2013.03.17 22:02:00 -
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On my AP fits I use loxus grenades, mostly for softening up heavies but if there's a group I'll chunk one their way; I'll also use them to cover my retreat if I feel I can get one off before anyone comes around the corner.
And of course AV grenades for my AV fits.
I only see flux grenades being useful if most of the enemies are grouped together and you've got at least a 2nd squad with yours. I try not to engage large groups like that unless I have a fair amount of distance between us and have cover to use |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
497
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Posted - 2013.03.17 22:06:00 -
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pack AV because i cant remember on the fly what i have if i change it up, we need a different icon for each nade. |
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
338
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Posted - 2013.03.17 22:15:00 -
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I use the M1 locus 98% of the time, but when there is pesky LAV's, I bring my packed.
Freakin love my M1's though, getting quite good at cooked CQC killing as well. Got my own mini-orbital the other night by chucking a well cooked one into a tightly packed group of players  |
Joseph Ridgeson
Cactus Rats
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Posted - 2013.03.17 22:24:00 -
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I have never liked Flux grenades. Sure it obliterates shields but so does an Assault Rifle. I would much rather use a cooked Locus to take out shields AND some armor before attacking than just taking out shield. Plus, I have gotten way too many skills from the random Flux toss to make Flux a valuable option.
AV grenades are something that I have on my AV suit and one of my cheapo Assault Rifle suits. With that suit, I try to flank more than just beat the enemy to death so being able to take out the random LAV or make a tank run away is more useful.
But why do people use Flux grenades with Mass Drivers? Is it because MD's do extra damage to armor and they just want to get into armor ASAP? If that is the case, why not Flux?
Be well. |
Dany 7A5H
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.03.17 22:42:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I have never liked Flux grenades. Sure it obliterates shields but so does an Assault Rifle. I would much rather use a cooked Locus to take out shields AND some armor before attacking than just taking out shield. Plus, I have gotten way too many skills from the random Flux toss to make Flux a valuable option.
AV grenades are something that I have on my AV suit and one of my cheapo Assault Rifle suits. With that suit, I try to flank more than just beat the enemy to death so being able to take out the random LAV or make a tank run away is more useful.
But why do people use Flux grenades with Mass Drivers? Is it because MD's do extra damage to armor and they just want to get into armor ASAP? If that is the case, why not Flux?
Be well.
MDs being explosive deal 130% dmg to armor.
Locus deals 70% dmg to shields
I believe those are the numbers
Fly safe |
TODDSTER024
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2013.03.17 23:16:00 -
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All the above.
I have three fittings all the same cept the nades are different.
1-nade
2-av
3-flux
I also have two forge gun loadouts that the only differance is av and flux |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.17 23:20:00 -
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I prefer Flux grenades. Especially in large groups. It's like cracking open an egg. Sure it's easy to crack but now all I have to do is cook the yolk.
Also you send shield vehicles and the like fleeing. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.03.17 23:25:00 -
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AV. my thinking being that my AR or SMG CAN kill infantry, but locus or flux grenades CANNOT destroy vehicles.
it effectively puts a stop to the trololol LAV douchebaggery, and even if you can't take out a tank yourself, you can contribute.
more importantly they allow you to react QUICKLY as opposed to having to die or find a resupply to bring out a swarm or forge gun while the tank is rampaging through your team. |
Hauker Due
Rubber Chicken Bombers
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Posted - 2013.03.18 00:53:00 -
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Flux are better than locus if you're running an AR
Huge blast radius,
Take down the shields of multiple red dots
the armor just melts off.
From experience locust are better than flux if you're running a shotgun
if you have their shields down and their running, flux aren't doing anything for ya\
I would never run AV's on a suit made for combat
fit a suit that is strictly made to take out vehicles
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
797
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Posted - 2013.03.18 01:02:00 -
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Drake435 wrote:I'm personally lost as to what to use now. AV grenades are so fulfilling when you blow up tanks and LAVs in a couple of 'nades but not every match do I see vehicles.
Flux and locus can be used in more situations if you are able to know the timing of "cooking" the 'nade.
Flux |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
66
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Posted - 2013.03.18 01:12:00 -
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Flux to compliment my MD and its good for helping my squad, 1 flux in strips shields and usually causes people to panic which grants me quite a few assists.
And they are great for scaring shield tanks I have no idea if they do more damage to a tanks shields than an AV grenade but the large explosion they throw off usually scars them off. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
322
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Posted - 2013.03.18 03:45:00 -
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It depends on your fitting really. I have variations on most of mine, where I tweak them for AV, support & AI. |
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