is this some sci-fi story talk or something is happening?

The empires made us and no longer want us, unless there is a battle that they can't fight.

Time to GTFO, leave the empires behind and build a home somewhere else. Anybody know of a good combat clone supplier?

Screw it. I'm heading to Molden Heath. My cousin has a nice little fishing cabin on a temperate world.

*Cough*Genolution*Cough*

Are Jovians smart enough to understand that they may be dealing with illegal biomass when doing business? Or do they really not care who is it that goes to them and sells them their services?

One word about how much the Empires concern the Jovians: Vak'Atioth

Seriously though, first Heth and now Roden?

Did anything come out of the meeting of the tribal leaders?

Speaking of doomsday devices, please remember that there is a Titan above the planet right now. This is either going to end badly or it will end very badly. Best option is to get the kitten out of here. We can win, but there will be no victory.

Who is purging us?

Lets just say the last time somone detonated a doomsday device in the atmosphere, the entire population of 24 billion where killed off as the planet's breathable gasses where stripped away from the planet.

Even if the Titan didn't fire the main weapon the secondary weapons, the Six 1200MM Twinned Railgun 'Monsters' are capable of firing shells the diameter of the mcc and probably just as long.

Look at your math again. 1200mm is about 4 feet. I don't know how long the projectiles are, but it is much smaller than an MCC. Each one would still be about as powerful as a nuke when it hits though.

Look at your math again. 1200mm is about 4 feet. I don't know how long the projectiles are, but it is much smaller than an MCC. Each one would still be about as powerful as a nuke when it hits though.

I am just afraid the empire will find all of our routers and smash them all to bits. The only thing that keeps us immortal.

Yes, the barrel is very large, but the math still doesn't support your claim. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Iron_Charge_XL
The volume is given to be 0.25 m^3. For a size comparison, a block in minecraft is defined to be 1 m^3. Also, rail guns are 1000 mm. Assuming that the 1000 mm is the diameter, this gives a total length of 318mm. This includes both the projectile and its casing.

Don't they want to do that to most capsuleers too, though?

To kill off all the cpasuleers you'd have to wipe out every single clone vat in the galaxy which at this time and day is neary impossible. Also CONCORD has means to control capsuleers, a pod jammer which decoubles a nomrally crewed ship with capsuleer to a severly undermanned ship with no cpasuleer, this is also why CONCORD can't win a fight against non capsuleer ships.

Even if the Titan didn't fire the main weapon the secondary weapons, the Six 1200MM Twinned Railgun 'Monsters' are capable of firing shells the diameter of the mcc and probably just as long.

The problem with relying on CONCORD to solve this for us is that CONCORD wanted us out of existence in the first place before we ever became anything.

Um... No.

1200mm is 1.2 meters, or about half the height of a cloned merc.

Its actually kind of cute, the empires might actually all unite around a common enemy. But if they need ground warriors they need us. So basically, the extent to which we are willing to sell our souls and commit genocide against our own kind will we help keep the empires united.

The less we are wanting to fight for them, the easier it will be to set up our own space where they don't matter as much.

One of the big differences is that Roden is at least talking about "quarantine" and limiting it to the "first generation". He is saying nothing about us in particular.

We do know that the Sleeper mercs have a tendency to go nuts. At least in the Federation there is public acknowledgement of the government's malfeasance and watchdog groups can push back against the government to hopefully get our brothers and sisters the help they need and deserve.

I'm going to contact my great-grandmother and see if she can push for a humane solution instead of the genocide we've seen elsewhere. She's not as influential anymore, but she may convince some others to step in and push for clemency.



Edit- She called for asylum:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215620&find=unread

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http://dust514.com/beta/news/2013/03/the-uprising-breaking-news-jacus-roden-reveals-existence-of-cloned-mercenaries-announces-federation-purge/

We stick out like sore thumbs 7-8 ft tall and nearly featureless with our armor off. Simply removing our armor and hiding in the masses would not work. Heavily augmented for military combat use only bodies. We will have a very hard time fitting back in at least physically in appearance.

I'm going to contact my great-grandmother and see if she can push for a humane solution instead of the genocide we've seen elsewhere. She's not as influential anymore, but she may convince some others to step in and push for clemency.

Edit- She called for asylum:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215620&find=unread

How many of us are in the "safe" generation, and who among us is a "sleeper clone"?

Any news on how this is going?

Us capsuleers have retained our humanity through our transformation. These clones on the other hand, are much different. They are only bred to fight, kill, and die and do that over and over again. They will never know what it's like to be at peace. They will never find anyone they can call a friend, or a lover. The only joy they will feel is triumph over an enemy, their only suffering will be defeat.

They are born, they are delivered to the battlefield, they fight, they die, and then they are reborn. It is an endless cycle that they will never escape from. Do they even have faces? Are they even human? You couldn't tell from the cold emotionless armor they wear. To me, they are no different than drones.

These automatons have foresaken their humanity. Observe how mechanically efficient they are, observe their indifference to whoever they slaughter be it soldier or civilian. No human that I have ever met could operate in such a way.

Of course, I do not call for their genocide. Without any humanity, these clones have demonstrated their ability to be perfect soldiers and could be useful. I also applaud the OPs efforts for trying to rehabilitate these damned and corrupted men and women. However until they are made human again, I will look at them as I look at the Hammerheads in my drone bay. Tools, that I can use for whatever purpose I desire.

Someone was drunk driving the titan I see...

But in all fun this is starting to feel like a war now.

Is it just me or does that titan look like the spawn of a Erebus and Revenant mated with an Aeon?

Every time I heard of "reclaiming" in history books, all I saw was the Amarr Empire conquering something (or at least trying to)... or someone. Not sure if I can trust that.

Not to savvy when it comes to the EVE side of things, but how much firepower would it take to bring that down?

As among the first titans Not sure what is was supposed to look like..

Yeah...I don't really trust the Amarr...maybe take up some territory out on the fringes of Amarr space (maybe between Amarr and Gallente holdings) but otherwise I'm leery...

EDIT: I wonder if they planets we'll be fighting over soon will be in Amarr space (or near-by it)

Well the mess keeps getting better and better

http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5053&tid=5

http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5051&tid=6

Well even more on goings in the galaxy. Death Squads!

This from Heth the madman?

I'm more inclined to think it's special ops groups fighting each other and that from time to time a civilian gets caught in the crossfire. Unfortunate, but nearly unavoidable. Hardly a death squad.

I read it as the first generation is doomed to go mad. Closed beta testers are 2nd Gen, open beta are 3rd gen. NPC's are 1st Gen. And we know CCP is mad to begin with...

I assumed we're all first generation mercs... would explain a lot of forum and in-game behaviour I've seen lately. This is assuming they are telling the truth when saying that only first gen. are affected by their so-called "madness". If later generations may catch it I guess we could be gen2-3 or whatever ;).

But i like my flesh, its the thing I keep my organs in!

I am just saying, the rumor about the her majesty that in all of her glory she has a dark side of her that has very sinister motives. I mean what girl wouldn't want to keep the ultimate weapon just lying around in a drone hive for safe keeping? Unless it was to keep it away from herself.... She had no obligation in making any of the clear and free technology either, however we cant trust that the implants she offers are 'taint' free.

For all we know the dark side of her could be commanding the gen 1s that are going awol...

huh, and I just don't trust the amarr because they're theocratic slavers.

/me looks at the Minmatar living in cardboard boxes.

Did I ever tell you that slavery is legal bonding contract in the Caldari state? its a great program for the poor I tell you the best form of welfare there is honestly. I mean my family is owed a few more generations but none the less we have a house, a roof, education, steady work , health benefits, and early buy outs of the contracts.

I wouldn't be able to recall much of my enslaved life before the military, I am one of those 'rescue' clones of damaged soldiers from the front lines submitted into the program due to aforementioned obligations. According to my medical record my original was shot though the head. Some clever restoring protocols they managed to keep most of the experience intact but most of the memories gone. At least I could recover memories provided they're real enough.

I suspect they purposely wiped out the memories due to my previous work though, I suspect I used to work in NavIntel.

OOC: Could someone run me up to speed on how the immortal mercenaries are viewed in the eveonline world. I mean i read Templar One but that's pretty much it. I would prefer links so long as they answer my questions ( I.E. you read the link ). I thought caldari mercenaries were running to the gallente but now the gallente are destroying immortal soldiers. I don't get it :/

basically, everyone wants us dead, the amarr are acting all buddy-buddy, but as overly religious slavers I don't trust them.

Hmm I guess I can finally pursue my dream of owning my own star ship after this is all over, maybe a space restaurant or bar.

Well Gallente Deathsquads are True....

http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5055&tid=6

Did these Gallente Deathsquads happen to be filled with mercenaries equipped with shotguns AND assault rifles by chance? It seems that quite a few 'disguises' were recently passed around the galaxy with abandon. There seems to be some forces at work that muddy the politics. Could mercs just be impersonating Gallente?

To be honest we dont know, maybe if the sisters hired some mercs they could possibly save some people and get to the bottom of this.

Oh god please tell me the Broker isn't back.....

Oh god please tell me the Broker isn't back.....

You will not mention that name around here soldier, rumors are bad for morale, and lets be honest Admiral Noir was a Pure Gallente member.

Those fleets are nothing to worry about we just needed ships fitted with the new clone tech :-)

Those fleets are nothing to worry about we just needed ships fitted with the new clone tech :-)

Glad to help I mean we won't need new slaves if the old ones can never die :-)

I have been to the Oracle... she hath prodicted a grim future for Admiral Yanala.. one filled with fire and ash

I need a link for the Amarr fleets forming up, please

While not to distract anyone those of you moving to Amarr Space may I post this little warning for you.
http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5054&tid=2
There you go

Stop using Talon, son... it's making you hallucinate.

Wait...

Are you a first gen?

A vision has been seen, pride comes before the fall and that fall shall make the sun go dark. Blood shall be spilled under the shadow of a fallen hero.


Oh yeah, the Oracle also told me when the next build is coming.

Good god, WHEN MAN WHEN!?!?!?!?!!?

MROWGäó

Oh, my. I'd forgotten how much I hate space travel.

Same here, capsuleers always get right of way at the gates >< Here we are having a 25 km long traffic line and these 120 capsuleers show up to jump in Luminarie, I just wanted to get immigration papers done and re-apply for my proof of identity and possibly see the crystal boulevard one last time before something tragic might happen to it.

Concord Issues Travel Advisory

http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?of=true&newsTitle=concord-issues-luminaire-travel-advisory-in-the-wake-of-escalated-conflict

I was just over there a few days ago; maybe I should make another trip and see what CONCORD is up to exactly...

Well they arrested a pop singer today...

http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5057&tid=5