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Kiso Okami
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:02:00 -
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Gusk Hevv wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:The empires made us and no longer want us, unless there is a battle that they can't fight.
Time to GTFO, leave the empires behind and build a home somewhere else. Anybody know of a good combat clone supplier? *Cough*Genolution*Cough*
Are Jovians smart enough to understand that they may be dealing with illegal biomass when doing business? Or do they really not care who is it that goes to them and sells them their services? |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:15:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Gusk Hevv wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:The empires made us and no longer want us, unless there is a battle that they can't fight.
Time to GTFO, leave the empires behind and build a home somewhere else. Anybody know of a good combat clone supplier? *Cough*Genolution*Cough* Are Jovians smart enough to understand that they may be dealing with illegal biomass when doing business? Or do they really not care who is it that goes to them and sells them their services? One word about how much the Empires concern the Jovians: Vak'Atioth
Ah.. the story of the first Doomsday Device. So refreshing to see someone drag up history on how arrogant Amarr royally went derp.
I kinda no want to visit our ever-so-elusive overlords.
Hopefully they don't experiment on me in the process... |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.15 15:39:00 -
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Right now? The Fed... in Caldari Prime.
You know this is only going to turn out badly... really, really badly.
Good night, my beloved Caldari Prime, I hardly knew ye. |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.15 17:59:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The problem with relying on CONCORD to solve this for us is that CONCORD wanted us out of existence in the first place before we ever became anything.
Too late for that though...
I am certain that we are far too many already to be considered a "non-factor". Either CONCORD recognizes that, given our true origins, we are human beings and therefore have rights just like any other "pea-pod" and defend us... or they would have to condone the genocidal behavior that is somehow becoming the norm in the higher echelons of the four empires.
And if they will go to lengths secure all of their territories to take us down, then I guess we could always head into 0.0 (or even W-space) space where CONCORD doesn't even have presence... or maybe the Jove will take pity on us and we become their immortal army... given they don't have one already. |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.15 18:56:00 -
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Kaerala Myshtana wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:Its actually kind of cute, the empires might actually all unite around a common enemy. But if they need ground warriors they need us. So basically, the extent to which we are willing to sell our souls and commit genocide against our own kind will we help keep the empires united.
The less we are wanting to fight for them, the easier it will be to set up our own space where they don't matter as much. One of the big differences is that Roden is at least talking about "quarantine" and limiting it to the "first generation". He is saying nothing about us in particular. We do know that the Sleeper mercs have a tendency to go nuts. At least in the Federation there is public acknowledgement of the government's malfeasance and watchdog groups can push back against the government to hopefully get our brothers and sisters the help they need and deserve. I'm going to contact my great-grandmother and see if she can push for a humane solution instead of the genocide we've seen elsewhere. She's not as influential anymore, but she may convince some others to step in and push for clemency. Edit- She called for asylum: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215620&find=unread
Oh, that's your relative? At least we have someone on our side of the fence.
Honestly, it'd be great if we could organize ourselves and peacefully turn ourselves over to the proper authorities for proper examination, I am hopeful that if we prove that we are a humane as everyone else is (despite our ability to not fear death nor react to physical pain in any way to hinder our thought process), that people will not think of us as weapons or trained animals. Then again, they already branded our kind as dangerous, so people would think twice to trust us and would likely resort to killing us if it makes them feel safer.
Makes me wonder, though...
How many of us are in the "safe" generation, and who among us is a "sleeper clone"? |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:35:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Any news on how this is going?
http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?of=true&newsTitle=federation-navy-announces-inaugural-fedcaft-naval-exercises
If that is any indication, it means **** might get real... really really soon. |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:02:00 -
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Oh! hey guys, get a load of this guy!!
And I quote;
Fredfredbug4 wrote:Us capsuleers have retained our humanity through our transformation. These clones on the other hand, are much different. They are only bred to fight, kill, and die and do that over and over again. They will never know what it's like to be at peace. They will never find anyone they can call a friend, or a lover. The only joy they will feel is triumph over an enemy, their only suffering will be defeat.
They are born, they are delivered to the battlefield, they fight, they die, and then they are reborn. It is an endless cycle that they will never escape from. Do they even have faces? Are they even human? You couldn't tell from the cold emotionless armor they wear. To me, they are no different than drones.
These automatons have foresaken their humanity. Observe how mechanically efficient they are, observe their indifference to whoever they slaughter be it soldier or civilian. No human that I have ever met could operate in such a way.
Of course, I do not call for their genocide. Without any humanity, these clones have demonstrated their ability to be perfect soldiers and could be useful. I also applaud the OPs efforts for trying to rehabilitate these damned and corrupted men and women. However until they are made human again, I will look at them as I look at the Hammerheads in my drone bay. Tools, that I can use for whatever purpose I desire.
Apparently, the peapod brain (and body) thinks his several-meter-thick metal shells make him more human than us who chose to give up our sense of pain for the sake of fighting for what we believe. I seriously hope he also doesn't fly anything larger than a shuttle to do anything risky, cause I hear those carry actual living beings that won't come back to life once the ship starts taking structural damage in people get blown into space or into pieces.
Compared to him, i'm almost certain that even "broken" first gens are more humane than him.
You can quote me on this one too... not like I am human who can't express an opinion. |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.17 16:27:00 -
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Every time I heard of "reclaiming" in history books, all I saw was the Amarr Empire conquering something (or at least trying to)... or someone. Not sure if I can trust that. |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.17 18:01:00 -
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These past couple of weeks have been very very strange.
Propaganda, purges, militia opening fire on civilinas, the Empress providing asylum to "crazy clones", our own mission agents sending us to fight for the wrong sides so we end up sabotaging their operations...
This one feels really tame by comparison... wouldn't be surprised if it were either a true video or staged propaganda... |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.17 23:09:00 -
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Kaerala Myshtana wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5051&tid=6
Well even more on goings in the galaxy. Death Squads! This from Heth the madman? I'm more inclined to think it's special ops groups fighting each other and that from time to time a civilian gets caught in the crossfire. Unfortunate, but nearly unavoidable. Hardly a death squad.
This only makes me think that the holoreel presented earlier with the Gallente Black Eagles being excuted is more of a propaganda scheme meant to unite the Caldari so as to make their military forces regain their heavily lowered morale. Not as if the Gallente had not started their propaganda machine already either, so it's very likely that Caldari won't fall behind them.
The drums of war are beating every harder as the time passes... and it seems we might wend up being the ones to make history in this war. |
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Kiso Okami
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Posted - 2013.03.19 05:05:00 -
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Here, have some more... destroyed huge buildings that is..
http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?of=true&newsTitle=unrest-on-caldari-prime-results-in-bombing-of-provist-headquarters |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.19 20:59:00 -
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Kitten Commander wrote:I have been to the Oracle... she hath prodicted a grim future for Admiral Yanala.. one filled with fire and ash
Stop using Talon, son... it's making you hallucinate.
Wait...
Are you a first gen? |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:23:00 -
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Kitten Commander wrote:XANDER KAG wrote:Kitten Commander wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Kitten Commander wrote:I have been to the Oracle... she hath prodicted a grim future for Admiral Yanala.. one filled with fire and ash Stop using Talon, son... it's making you hallucinate. Wait... Are you a first gen? A vision has been seen, pride comes before the fall and that fall shall make the sun go dark. Blood shall be spilled under the shadow of a fallen hero. Oh yeah, the Oracle also told me when the next build is coming. Good god, WHEN MAN WHEN!?!?!?!?!!? MROWGäó
If there was any doubt, now you're confirmed for first gen. Please make your way over to the appropriate authorities in order to be provided aid in your time of need. :p |
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