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S Park Finner BetaMax. CRONOS. 99	Posted - 2013.03.15 00:29:00 - [1] - Quote Marston VC wrote: CCP wrote: How do corporations take districts from other corporations? The basis of it is you move clones from one of your own districts to an enemy district then battle it out with the occupant. How many clones you take dictate how many you have available for the attack, while the defender gets access to all of the clones on their district. With a fully stocked district we expect you would need to multiple successful battles over a few days to a week in order to deplete a district of its clone reserves. so does this mean that you can pull clones from other districts to just bulk up the one district in question? can a corp attack multiple districts all at once? or does a corp need to have a district adjacent to the district under attack for them to be allowed to attack? If I'm reading the description correctly an enemy sending clones to an occupied district changes it's status to "under attack". A district under attack can not have actions applied to it, so sending your own clones to reinforce it after the attack has been declared would not be possible. You could send clones beforehand up to the total the district can hold. You could also send clones after the attack was over. Both of those actions would lock the district, so no further actions could be taken on the district except an attack. It sounds like there is a race condition after a battle ends. Both the attackers and defenders would want to take immediate action on the district -- the attackers scheduling another attack, the defenders wanting to reinforce it. Those questions may have been answered in other places in the thread but I did not find them. The question we need and answer to if it has not been covered is ... "Immediately after a battle what is the state of the district: Online, Offline, Locked or Under Attack?" My guess is Online -- causing the race condition I talked about a moment ago.
S Park Finner BetaMax. CRONOS. 99	Posted - 2013.03.15 02:52:00 - [2] - Quote OK -- no wise comments -- If you don't like it just ignore it District State ---- Legal Action ------------------------- Next State ----- Next State Change Offline --------- Move Clones In -------------------- Online ---------- Immediately Online ------------ Owner Moves Clones In ---------- Locked -------- After reinforcement timer --------------------- Owner Places PI ------------------- Locked ---------- After reinforcement timer --------------------- Owner Moves Clones Out -------- Online ---------- Immediately --------------------- Owner Moves All Clones Out ----- Offline ----- Immediately --------------------- Change Reinforcement Timer ----- Locked ------- 24 hours after new reinforcement timer --------------------- Enemy Moves Clones In ---------- Under Attack/Generating Clones -- 24 hours after beginning of next reinforcement timer plus 1 hour from start of battle --------------------- Corp Dissolves ---------------------- Offline -------- Immediately Locked ----------- Enemy Moves Clones In ------------ Under Attack -- 24 hours after beginning of next reinforcement timer plus 1 hour from start of battle --------------------- Corp Dissolves ---------------------- Offline -------- Immediately Under Attack/ Generating Clones ---- Corp Dissolves ------------------------ Online (under new owner) ---- At beginning of existing reinforcement period Under Attack/ Not Generating Clones ---- Corp Dissolves ------------------------ Online (under new owner) ---- At beginning of existing reinforcement period Battle Starts: Within One Hour -- -- Mini-game starts: ---- Enemy wins battle, does not exhaust district clones ------- Enemy chooses not to move clones in -- Online -- One hour from battle start --------Enemy Moves Clones In ----------------------- Under Attack/Not Generating Clones --- 24 hours after beginning of current reinforcement period plus 1 hour from start of battle --------Enemy Kills all clones in District -------------- Online (under new owner) ----- Immediately ---- Enemy looses battle ------- Enemy chooses not to move clones in -- Online -- One hour from battle start --------Enemy Moves Clones In ----------------------- Under Attack/Generating Clones --- 24 hours after beginning of current reinforcement period plus 1 hour from start of battle ---- Corp Dissolves --------------------------------------Online (under new owner) -- At beginning of existing reinforcement period I think this is what we know so far. So questions... Are all the state transitions correct? (Not answered yet) If the attacker wins the match but does not take the district and chooses to move clones in is it true that the defender gets no chance to reinforce from outside the district? (This is what happens) Does the district continue to produce clones while under attack? (Yes before the first attack and if the attack fails, No if the attack succeeds but the district is not taken over and the attacker chooses to attack again) To make this work I had to create the new state "Within one hour of Battle Start" -- is that legitimate? (Looks like yes, during the period when attacks can take place there is a mini-game depending on the outcome of the attack and state changes appropriately) The "offline" state is the one where no one owns the district? So the only thing that can be done to it is to move clones into it and bring it online? (Modified question, not answered yet) Created two more new states, Under Attack / Generating Clones and Under Attack / Not Generating Clones -- Is this accurate? (Not answered yet) What is the default reinforcement period (right after the district is first taken over)? (New question, not answered yet)
S Park Finner BetaMax. CRONOS. 99	Posted - 2013.03.15 03:56:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: Was nice enough to answer some of the questions I had. So I modified the original post and asked a few more! When you are a bit less blurry eyed I hope you get a chance to revisit it and answer the new questions. Many thanks for all the effort you guys have put into this so far.
S Park Finner BetaMax. CRONOS. 99	Posted - 2013.03.15 17:47:00 - [4] - Quote Some questions from my post lost in the mists of the thread... I think the original post represents what we know so far. Outstanding questions... Are all the state transitions in the original post correct? (Not answered yet) if the attacker chooses to pursue the attack for another day (win or loose) can they do it with as many clones as they have available to move? (Not answered yet) The "offline" state is the one where no one owns the district? So the only thing that can be done to it is to move clones into it and bring it online? (Modified question, not answered yet) Created two more new states, Under Attack / Generating Clones and Under Attack / Not Generating Clones -- Is this accurate? (Not answered yet) What is the default reinforcement period (right after the district is first taken over)? (New question, not answered yet) Can you take over a district and NOT set/reset the reinforcement period thus leaving it online?
S Park Finner BetaMax. CRONOS. 102	Posted - 2013.03.18 17:41:00 - [5] - Quote I noticed the states a district can be in are online, offline, locked and under attack. Are they mutually exclusive or can a district be in several states at once? Also, what state is a district in if it is abandoned or before it has been taken the first time? Are those different from each other in some way?
S Park Finner BetaMax. CRONOS. 102	Posted - 2013.03.18 18:30:00 - [6] - Quote FoxFour, are you modelling districts as state machines, agents, traditional objects or something else? If something else, what? It's almost certainly my lack of understanding but I'm having trouble matching the discussion to an underlying philosophy and I'm really curious.

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