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Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 251	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:21:00 - [1] - Quote So I was watching a pretty epic video here. And couldn't help but notice how advantageous that spot on top of B was where PFBH had an uplink and Tryhard514 spawned 3-4 times. Now I'm pretty sure links are destroyed on the ground by orbital strikes, and definitely should be by laser strikes. There may not have been a likely strike directly on top of B unless STB was trying to eliminate the couple of guys perched up there, but I didn't know if there was an attempt or not since it was hard to tell from the vid. I DO know that I've been on that map, and OBSed elevated positions, but people (and uplinks) were not destroyed. To be fair to PFBH, by the time Goons and ROFL had superiority in the sky it looked like it was tipping in favor of PFBH anyway, but it was still pretty close, and taking out the uplink on the top of B would have been a large part of turning the battle in their favor. So...community...did PFBH win because of a bug/tactical error/ or a combination...? And is CCP working on the OBS strike mechanics of this?
charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 173	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:32:00 - [2] - Quote Yep i have in the past on that map used a OB to try and kill people up there and you are correct it doesnt work. You may also be correct that the OB not affecting PFBH may have changed the course of the battle. I would still say that since either side had the ability to exploit this and that PFBH did it first it was tactically the right thing to do and therefore a good strategic decision on their part. So to me since this was something STB could have done as well I say the win for PFBH is still an unstained win. Do I think CCP should fix it though... YES
hermin hermit Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:33:00 - [3] - Quote Who ******* cares?
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 251	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:36:00 - [4] - Quote hermin hermit wrote: Like sands through the hourglass..... Who ******* cares? META matters...
JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 137	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:36:00 - [5] - Quote z. You forgot the z. All of them. z.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 251	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:44:00 - [6] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: z. You forgot the z. All of them. z. What starts with Z?
JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 137	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:46:00 - [7] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: z. You forgot the z. All of them. z. What starts with Z? zebra. what do I win?
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 251	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:49:00 - [8] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: z. You forgot the z. All of them. z. What starts with Z? zebra. what do I win? Stickerz!! That's what PFBH fightz for right?
JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 138	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:53:00 - [9] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: z. You forgot the z. All of them. z. What starts with Z? zebra. what do I win? Stickerz!! That's what PFBH fightz for right? Nope. Cake and Strippers. again z. PFBHz. z.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 251	Posted - 2013.03.13 19:58:00 - [10] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: again z. PFBHz. z. OOOOOHhh! I see what you were getting at! I'll get around to fixing it...Anyway... So who thinks STB would have won if this bug wasn't here? Also, what did PFBH get for winning and did everyone in the corp get some or was it just the special people who got chosen to play?

Tryhard514 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 122	Posted - 2013.03.13 20:00:00 - [11] - Quote Inhuman and his uplink were destroyed once during the match. We spawned another dropship and set another one up there. Same thing would have done even if they OB'ed the uplink all 2-3 times they had an OB.
JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2013.03.13 20:00:00 - [12] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: again z. PFBHz. z. OOOOOHhh! I see what you were getting at! I'll get around to fixing it... Anyway... So who thinks STB would have won if this bug wasn't here? Also, what did PFBH get for winning and did everyone in the corp get some or was it just the special people who got chosen to play? z.
Tryhard514 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 122	Posted - 2013.03.13 20:02:00 - [13] - Quote and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 251	Posted - 2013.03.13 20:04:00 - [14] - Quote Tryhard514 wrote: Inhuman and his uplink were destroyed once during the match. We spawned another dropship and set another one up there. Same thing would have done even if they OB'ed the uplink all 2-3 times they had an OB. Ahh good info! So that makes me wonder if those missile turrets on top make it harder or easier to get another DS up there? BTW, I think everything is going to change once we get deployable installations.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 251	Posted - 2013.03.13 20:05:00 - [15] - Quote Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. Because they were CQC specialists? or at least that team was?
Tryhard514 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 122	Posted - 2013.03.13 20:07:00 - [16] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. Because they were CQC specialists? or at least that team was? Yes, there 2 shotguns were the only reason, we dominated their ARs, MD, and tank driver
Xander Mercy SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 96	Posted - 2013.03.13 20:09:00 - [17] - Quote clearly we needed xander mercy
Tryhard514 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 124	Posted - 2013.03.13 20:09:00 - [18] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: Inhuman and his uplink were destroyed once during the match. We spawned another dropship and set another one up there. Same thing would have done even if they OB'ed the uplink all 2-3 times they had an OB. Ahh good info! So that makes me wonder if those missile turrets on top make it harder or easier to get another DS up there? BTW, I think everything is going to change once we get deployable installations. They were destroyed when STB called in their own dropship and killed inhuman, they never OB'ed him. You see them fail at taking out inhuman with another dropship late in the match while I was on top.
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 437	Posted - 2013.03.13 20:27:00 - [19] - Quote It was good tactics, plain and simple.
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 711	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:05:00 - [20] - Quote Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. Agreed. If Calamity and Annie couldn't carry STB to the win on that map (because they did carry the rest of them), it wasn't going to happen. Pretty sure STB tried to get a dropship up there and failed. I like Calamity and Annie good players, good people. But PFB has more talent and it showed.

slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 494	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:29:00 - [21] - Quote z
PAUL BERNARD Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:31:00 - [22] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: , by the time Goons and ROFL had superiority in the sky it looked like it was tipping in favor of PFBH anyway, Yes, this man is clearly someone who knows what he is talking about. also. z
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming 48	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:36:00 - [23] - Quote Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. i'd say the map favored your fused locus nade spamming more than anything however, i was surprised calamity jane and annie oakley didn't do better, that map is prime for shotguns
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2422	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:41:00 - [24] - Quote Tryhard514 wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. Because they were CQC specialists? or at least that team was? Yes, their 2 shotguns were the only reason, we dominated their ARs, MD, and tank driver why didnt u guys swap to all shotties then like u did against us? ur strong at cqc maps as well, or at least know how to work them well so i dont think the map favoured STB they fought hard man give em a lil credit lol
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 234	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:43:00 - [25] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. i'd say the map favored your fused locus nade spamming more than anything however, i was surprised calamity jane and annie oakley didn't do better, that map is prime for shotguns What map doesn't favor fused locus grenades?
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming 48	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:47:00 - [26] - Quote Jaiden Longshot wrote: King Kobrah wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. i'd say the map favored your fused locus nade spamming more than anything however, i was surprised calamity jane and annie oakley didn't do better, that map is prime for shotguns What map doesn't favor fused locus grenades? open areas of manus peak and outside the compound areas. good luck throwing those things accurately at a target 40 meters out without getting lit up.
PAUL BERNARD Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 77	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:54:00 - [27] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: Jaiden Longshot wrote: King Kobrah wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. i'd say the map favored your fused locus nade spamming more than anything however, i was surprised calamity jane and annie oakley didn't do better, that map is prime for shotguns What map doesn't favor fused locus grenades? open areas of manus peak and outside the compound areas. good luck throwing those things accurately at a target 40 meters out without getting lit up. I am starting to enjoy this thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFZVX7hxJYQ
King Kobrah SyNergy Gaming 49	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:57:00 - [28] - Quote PAUL BERNARD wrote: King Kobrah wrote: Jaiden Longshot wrote: King Kobrah wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. i'd say the map favored your fused locus nade spamming more than anything however, i was surprised calamity jane and annie oakley didn't do better, that map is prime for shotguns What map doesn't favor fused locus grenades? open areas of manus peak and outside the compound areas. good luck throwing those things accurately at a target 40 meters out without getting lit up. I am starting to enjoy this thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFZVX7hxJYQ i genuinely couldn't care less which team won the tournament. just making some observations.
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 234	Posted - 2013.03.13 21:58:00 - [29] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. Because they were CQC specialists? or at least that team was? Yes, their 2 shotguns were the only reason, we dominated their ARs, MD, and tank driver why didnt u guys swap to all shotties then like u did against us? ur strong at cqc maps as well, or at least know how to work them well so i dont think the map favoured STB they fought hard man give em a lil credit lol It wasn't "all" shotties versus your corp, Mav. It also wouldn't make sense to equip gear we weren't spec'd into versus players who are spec'd into it. Versus SyN we weren't expecting skilled SG users like we were vs STB. We give plenty of credit to STB. We knew going into it that the battle for objectives wouldn't be an easy one. STB excels and capturing and defending points.
Calamity Jane II SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 45	Posted - 2013.03.13 22:02:00 - [30] - Quote Cyn Bruin wrote: Tryhard514 wrote: and to be fair, that map favored STB in every way. Any other map and it would have been much worse for them. Agreed. If Calamity and Annie couldn't carry STB to the win on that map (because they did carry the rest of them), it wasn't going to happen. Pretty sure STB tried to get a dropship up there and failed. I like Calamity and Annie good players, good people. But PFB has more talent and it showed. It's the little things like this that humble me and annie. thank you. /bow And king Kobrah, me and annie and the stb members did fight hard, but lots of proto weapons and gear and team work make it hard to be an effective shotgunner. pfbh know thier stuff and we did all right for shotty wielders but only so much you can do against people that know how to fight back well :P To sum up the battle,It was like fighting a pack of flipping rabid honey badgers. you know you have to try to put them down but man its hard and the suckers fight back with blinding rage.



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