I hear a lot of people talking about other weapons being Op. But the real easy I win button is the AR rifle it takes very little skill to be affective. It is very accurate at long ranges and very good at close quarters.

I'm not seeing any down side to this weapon it takes much less actuall real life skill than any other weopon to be effective with.
Am I missing something? Why do the AR elite think it takes skill to wield?

I tried all the other weapons and have now settled on the AR cause I simply get more kills and less deaths with it.

It is much easier to be able to jump and move and shoot with an AR than all the other weapons is this what is supposed to be the Skill involved?

ROFL......

Yeah, that is why so many people use HMG's and Shotguns, because the AR is so easy to use..... FAIL LOGIC.

Um not sure what game your playing the majority are using the AR rifle just watch the kill feed.

And the shotgun is effective at close range only, the hmg well there are some great players, however mist die to my AR.

no question. the AR is the toughest gun in the game.

Actually no, the Sniper requires most skill

I will counter that with the Mass Driver. Well, using the mass driver effectively.

AR is incapable of killing tanks.
AR is incapable of OHKs

AR is incapable of killing 6-8 people on a reload.

Actually no, the Sniper requires most skill

Unless you use M/Kb, then it takes the least

I hear a lot of people talking about other weapons being Op. But the real easy I win button is the AR rifle it takes very little skill to be affective. It is very accurate at long ranges and very good at close quarters.

I'm not seeing any down side to this weapon it takes much less actuall real life skill than any other weopon to be effective with.
Am I missing something? Why do the AR elite think it takes skill to wield?

I tried all the other weapons and have now settled on the AR cause I simply get more kills and less deaths with it.

It is much easier to be able to jump and move and shoot with an AR than all the other weapons is this what is supposed to be the Skill involved?

Why i get the feeling that is only Heavies complaining about this ?

Look what you done CCP !! you spoiled then with lots of easy kills, and now they complaining because other classes have catch up with them. It only toke me nearly 4,000,000 SP to catch up with them.... that sucks....

The are mostly AR, because all the skilled players likes to use a REAL gun. Not because is easy to use...

The people using REAL guns are in the military. Your plasma-bullet-spewing AR is as real as my laser rifle or man-portable minigun.

Most people use AR because they automatically repeat the habits that made them good in other FPS games, and because it's a solid jack of all trades.

What about the people who use AR's in this game and other games that aren't good at FPS at all?

I hear a lot of people talking about other weapons being Op. But the real easy I win button is the AR rifle it takes very little skill to be affective. It is very accurate at long ranges and very good at close quarters.

I'm not seeing any down side to this weapon it takes much less actuall real life skill than any other weopon to be effective with.
Am I missing something? Why do the AR elite think it takes skill to wield?

I tried all the other weapons and have now settled on the AR cause I simply get more kills and less deaths with it.

It is much easier to be able to jump and move and shoot with an AR than all the other weapons is this what is supposed to be the Skill involved?

Ever considered that ARs fit your playstyle better?

MY GOD WHAT A CONCEPT

Yeah, i look at the kill feed. The are mostly AR, because all the skilled players likes to use a REAL gun. Not because is easy to use...

Last time i check, you have to "Aim" and pull the trigger to kill things ...is not like the AR comes with an auto-aim module.

I will counter that with the Mass Driver. Well, using the mass driver effectively.

Oh.... You think you are a genius?? They nerf MD and shotty because they play better than AR playerbase idiot try one on one against shotty at short range and complain why they die.... Fleeing behind a small wall against MD = noob , like in past build the game as only AR and the game was flat and stupid, probably you want that back

Btw this game start to be boring.... MD splash nerf and shotty range nerf make the AR the best easily, + proto assault > heavy this is suppose to. Be an MMO not an AR only game

meh, ANY weapon where you can just tape down r1 and just move side to side praying
your target goes thru the stream is Ninja Dog Mode

The people using REAL guns are in the military. Your plasma-bullet-spewing AR is as real as my laser rifle or man-portable minigun.

Most people use AR because they automatically repeat the habits that made them good in other FPS games, and because it's a solid jack of all trades.

Not quite, the only difficulty with the mass driver is getting the hang of it and getting used to the arc. After that your firing a giant arcing bullet that you don't even have to hit the target with.

Laser Rifle
Man Portable Minigun

Now could you please refer me to where the plasma-bullet-spewing AR is?
Or are you just a dipshit?

My bad. It would have been more accurate for me to say the AR is the only unreal gun in the game. (Or are you somehow ignorant of how the AR works in DUST?)

More importantly though: you missed the point. You are playing a video game. Any statement about anything being a REAL gun makes no sense whatsoever.

Actually no, the Sniper requires most skill

However, you also have to deal with travel time, keeping track of your splash radius when enemies get close, and keeping ammo around you at all times.

With a mass driver you are often raining rounds at long range, which means you have to try to predict where the enemy will be in 2~3 seconds time. And you typically need at LEAST 2 solid hits to kill even the weakest enemies (unless they are in a starter fir scout suit). You often have to sorround the enemy with shells and trick him into running in the direction you want him to go.

I have to side with the Mass Driver. I've had plenty of 39/0 games with a SR, I've only seen 3 people EVER clear 30 kills with only the MD, one of them was me, one I never caught the name of (hit square too fast after the match) and the other..... I can't remember his name, and I really should... he's an Imperfect in a logi suit... lil help? He's been running MDs for a long time...

My bad. It would have been more accurate for me to say the AR is the only unreal gun in the game. (Or are you somehow ignorant of how the AR works in DUST?)

More importantly though: you missed the point. You are playing a video game. Any statement about anything being a REAL gun makes no sense whatsoever.

So umm? What?

My bad. It would have been more accurate for me to say the AR is the only unreal gun in the game.

More importantly though: you missed the point. You are playing a video game. Any statement about anything being a REAL gun makes no sense whatsoever.

I prefer my plasma bullet spewing AR.
It is more realistic than the rest of the guns in game.

so then is nothing OP?

ROFL......

Yeah, that is why so many people use HMG's and Shotguns, because the AR is so easy to use..... FAIL LOGIC.

Yeah, i look at the kill feed. The are mostly AR, because all the skilled players likes to use a REAL gun. Not because is easy to use...

Last time i check, you have to "Aim" and pull the trigger to kill things ...is not like the AR comes with an auto-aim module.

@OP:
Yes.
Right after HMG.


@Everybody:
Please note that an easy to use weapon does not necessarily mean it's OP. It's a different thing.

I agree the HmG is easy to use as a weapon but the combination with the heavy suit and all its slowness, reloading time etc.. adds difficulty to its prolonged use.
However the extreme mobility of the assault suit puts the Assault rifle back in the number one easy category.

And your correct this thread is not about one weapon being OP it is about which takes less finger skills to get more kills and less deaths.

ROFL......

Yeah, that is why so many people use HMG's and Shotguns, because the AR is so easy to use..... FAIL LOGIC.

The recoil and kick of the AR, compered to other weapons, makes the AR one of the hardest ones to use effectively. The kick is so high now, that i have to use my AR as a burst rifle, and adjust my aim to the neck area, to use the recoil for a head shoot. If i try to aim for the head, the AR kicks instantly, and i end up shooting at the sky after few bullets.

What is exactly easy about the AR ? ^

The recoil and kick of the AR, compered to other weapons, makes the AR one of the hardest ones to use effectively. The kick is so high now, that i have to use my AR as a burst rifle, and adjust my aim to the neck area, to use the recoil for a head shoot. If i try to aim for the head, the AR kicks instantly, and i end up shooting at the sky after few bullets.

What is exactly easy about the AR ? ^

Obviously the most OP weapon is HMG. My inbox filled with tons of mail couldn't be filled with liars, right? But then again - as a Heavy AR I got a lot of hate mail too. Nothing pleases everyone. :(

Oh, so thats why I see stacks of nothing but AR's a heavy every few games and if im very unlucky a shotgunner will appear. DOUBLE FAIL LOGIC!

@OP:
Yes.
Right after HMG.


@Everybody:
Please note that an easy to use weapon does not necessarily mean it's OP. It's a different thing.

If i wanted to get lots of kills, and feel like i'm amazing at this game, i will be using a HMG or a Shotgun. But i like to have fun playing ....

That is the difference. Is alot more fun to use an AR with a Logi suit, than a HMG with a Heavy suit.

I tried testing the AR's kick, (this was probably a militia rifle) it had none.

The kick gets worst every time you improve you rifle skills, also the GEK have alot more kick than the standard militia rifle. Which by the way.. that is what all this guys are complaining about... the higher tier rifles / skills.