DUST Search - [Request] $13 USD per month for Active/Passive and UVT Booster

Jathniel wrote:

RINON114 wrote:

Volgair wrote:

I get it, company motto. DUST is not pay to win... Sure. It is, its not a secret, and rather obvious. I don't mind paying for development compensation for a game I wish to support, and Unreal 3's royalty licence is by no means cheap. I especially Do not mind a P2W that, should i happen to be short in RL i can still participate and progress in, in a meaningful capacity. However contributing 20 dollars monthly a for a Merc pack is steep. Especially when you refuse to use the Fused Locus grenades out of principle. Well that, and I already have 3 Dragonfly Dropsuits and Toxin SMG's per account.

I know slimier request have been made before, however I did not feel it was wise to Necro an older thread to a newer audience.

I disagree with Dust being pay to win. The only currencies you need are time and friends. A squad of well coordinated militias could easily take down dumb protos.

I do agree with the idea of a subscription to get passive SP boosters but in fairness they are already in the game. We just have them last a week. Also, the merc pack gives you 5 weeks plus 30 days of passive SP boost if you spend all the Aurum on boosters.

In summary:
- Subscription for 30 day passive boosters: Yes
- Price should be calculated to be the same as what you can get from buying the merc pack (I'd do the maths but I'm not at home to check figures).

This^

Sorry OP, if you're spending $20 per month on Dust, and that is something you DON'T want to do, then you're doing something wrong.
As it stands, paying for Dust would be more around $8-$10 per month (waiting for 30-day booster to expire, then consuming all aurum on active + passive boosters BEFORE buying another merc pack).

Which is cheaper than an EVE sub. How about not buying aurum weapons? (if you do)

But as someone pointed out the militia bpos are a rip off, plain and simple.

Charging so much aurum for something that, if folks compared prices/stats with, is simply not worth anything.

Example: Thale Militia Scout vs. Dragonfly Type-1 Scout.
Pound for dollar, the thale suit just isn't worth the place in between both that it fell on.
Price should come way down for them. Maybe 1k aurum.

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Volgair The Tritan Industries 230	Posted - 2013.03.13 06:46:00 - [1] - Quote I get it, company motto. DUST is not pay to win... Sure. It is, its not a secret, and rather obvious. I don't mind paying for development compensation for a game I wish to support, and Unreal 3's royalty licence is by no means cheap. I especially Do not mind a P2W that, should i happen to be short in RL i can still participate and progress in, in a meaningful capacity. However contributing 20 dollars monthly a for a Merc pack is steep. Especially when you refuse to use the Fused Locus grenades out of principle. Well that, and I already have 3 Dragonfly Dropsuits and Toxin SMG's per account. I know slimier request have been made before, however I did not feel it was wise to Necro an older thread to a newer audience.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. 36	Posted - 2013.03.13 06:59:00 - [2] - Quote Volgair wrote: I get it, company motto. DUST is not pay to win... Sure. It is, its not a secret, and rather obvious. I don't mind paying for development compensation for a game I wish to support, and Unreal 3's royalty licence is by no means cheap. I especially Do not mind a P2W that, should i happen to be short in RL i can still participate and progress in, in a meaningful capacity. However contributing 20 dollars monthly a for a Merc pack is steep. Especially when you refuse to use the Fused Locus grenades out of principle. Well that, and I already have 3 Dragonfly Dropsuits and Toxin SMG's per account. I know slimier request have been made before, however I did not feel it was wise to Necro an older thread to a newer audience. I disagree with Dust being pay to win. The only currencies you need are time and friends. A squad of well coordinated militias could easily take down dumb protos. I do agree with the idea of a subscription to get passive SP boosters but in fairness they are already in the game. We just have them last a week. Also, the merc pack gives you 5 weeks plus 30 days of passive SP boost if you spend all the Aurum on boosters. In summary: - Subscription for 30 day passive boosters: Yes - Price should be calculated to be the same as what you can get from buying the merc pack (I'd do the maths but I'm not at home to check figures).
Delirium Inferno Chernova Industries 63	Posted - 2013.03.13 07:23:00 - [3] - Quote I still don't get why people are paying for passive boosters. I mean, that is literally paying for skill points and then waiting for them to ship. Just seems a little silly since we are still in the infancy of Dust and will surely have loads of SP amassed by the time things really get real, at least enough to have a few really good fits. But to each his own. That said a subscription for boosters does make sense, I can see it happening.
Volgair The Tritan Industries 231	Posted - 2013.03.13 12:09:00 - [4] - Quote I am going to bump this one for another run at the first page.
Vyzion Eyri The Legion Academy 281	Posted - 2013.03.13 12:18:00 - [5] - Quote If we keep complaining about how expensive things are, eventually CCP will have to make the game worth the money we're paying. /lightbulb.
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 217	Posted - 2013.03.13 12:42:00 - [6] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: If we keep complaining about how expensive things are, eventually CCP will have to make the game worth the money we're paying. /lightbulb. Don't hold your breath unless your Really, Really like blue. Every time they get close they give the Nerf Hammer Of Doom over to the Wanger and the game gets a little less worthwhile. I'd be a lot happier if they would quit with the QQ Nerf and fix the Hit Detection Bug. Don't forget the wacky prices for BPOs. A Merc Pack is $20 and you can use half the 40K AUR to buy One Suit. Wow, that is ... so not a deal.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 244	Posted - 2013.03.13 13:15:00 - [7] - Quote I've only ever spent -ú4 on this game and will likely never spend anymore - I've still got over 3/4 of that aurum left just in case there is something I really need at some point in the future. I still win plenty and so do many of the people I play with that have put zero money into Dust 514. I'll take that as a sign that this game is not P2W, thank you.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 244	Posted - 2013.03.13 13:17:00 - [8] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Vyzion Eyri wrote: If we keep complaining about how expensive things are, eventually CCP will have to make the game worth the money we're paying. /lightbulb. Don't hold your breath unless your Really, Really like blue. Every time they get close they give the Nerf Hammer Of Doom over to the Wanger and the game gets a little less worthwhile. I'd be a lot happier if they would quit with the QQ Nerf and fix the Hit Detection Bug. Don't forget the wacky prices for BPOs. A Merc Pack is $20 and you can use half the 40K AUR to buy One Suit. Wow, that is ... so not a deal. I really don't think they're 'wacky prices' - they never ever run out. That's an infinite supply of something. How can you put a price on infinity?
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 347	Posted - 2013.03.13 13:22:00 - [9] - Quote Agreed this game is not pay to win....more like pay to have earlier access to items that may or may not help you win. I would be ok if CCP wanted to make a deal where you could pay a monthly fee and get some boosters as slightly cheaper prices but either way I probably wouldnt buy boosters myself.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 249	Posted - 2013.03.13 13:45:00 - [10] - Quote +1

Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 39	Posted - 2013.03.13 18:34:00 - [11] - Quote Volgair wrote: I get it, company motto. DUST is not pay to win... Sure. It is, its not a secret, and rather obvious. I don't mind paying for development compensation for a game I wish to support, and Unreal 3's royalty licence is by no means cheap. I especially Do not mind a P2W that, should i happen to be short in RL i can still participate and progress in, in a meaningful capacity. However contributing 20 dollars monthly a for a Merc pack is steep. Especially when you refuse to use the Fused Locus grenades out of principle. Well that, and I already have 3 Dragonfly Dropsuits and Toxin SMG's per account. I know slimier request have been made before, however I did not feel it was wise to Necro an older thread to a newer audience. +1
CPL Bloodstone SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 18	Posted - 2013.03.13 18:40:00 - [12] - Quote +1
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 481	Posted - 2013.03.13 23:05:00 - [13] - Quote I'd subscribe if given half the chance, but 20$ is indeed a bit steep. I just wish the secondary market were up and running. People could get very space rich very fast by selling boosters/uvts. If PLEX is available on the secondary market, there is no reason that boosters should be any different.
Kiso Okami Militaires Sans Jeux 28	Posted - 2013.03.14 01:13:00 - [14] - Quote Or... you know... you could make a $50 USD, 1-Year Passive + Active Booster Pack ($30 USD for each separate one?). But it shouldn't be more than 50% SP boost. It wouldn't feel right to have any more than that. At least then the advantage won't be as drastic for payers versus non-payers (it's still be a lot of difference between the two).
Jathniel G I A N T 84	Posted - 2013.03.14 04:33:00 - [15] - Quote RINON114 wrote: Volgair wrote: I get it, company motto. DUST is not pay to win... Sure. It is, its not a secret, and rather obvious. I don't mind paying for development compensation for a game I wish to support, and Unreal 3's royalty licence is by no means cheap. I especially Do not mind a P2W that, should i happen to be short in RL i can still participate and progress in, in a meaningful capacity. However contributing 20 dollars monthly a for a Merc pack is steep. Especially when you refuse to use the Fused Locus grenades out of principle. Well that, and I already have 3 Dragonfly Dropsuits and Toxin SMG's per account. I know slimier request have been made before, however I did not feel it was wise to Necro an older thread to a newer audience. I disagree with Dust being pay to win. The only currencies you need are time and friends. A squad of well coordinated militias could easily take down dumb protos. I do agree with the idea of a subscription to get passive SP boosters but in fairness they are already in the game. We just have them last a week. Also, the merc pack gives you 5 weeks plus 30 days of passive SP boost if you spend all the Aurum on boosters. In summary: - Subscription for 30 day passive boosters: Yes - Price should be calculated to be the same as what you can get from buying the merc pack (I'd do the maths but I'm not at home to check figures). This^ Sorry OP, if you're spending $20 per month on Dust, and that is something you DON'T want to do, then you're doing something wrong. As it stands, paying for Dust would be more around $8-$10 per month (waiting for 30-day booster to expire, then consuming all aurum on active + passive boosters BEFORE buying another merc pack). Which is cheaper than an EVE sub. How about not buying aurum weapons? (if you do) But as someone pointed out the militia bpos are a rip off, plain and simple. Charging so much aurum for something that, if folks compared prices/stats with, is simply not worth anything. Example: Thale Militia Scout vs. Dragonfly Type-1 Scout. Pound for dollar, the thale suit just isn't worth the place in between both that it fell on. Price should come way down for them. Maybe 1k aurum.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. 39	Posted - 2013.03.14 06:03:00 - [16] - Quote Jathniel wrote: RINON114 wrote: Volgair wrote: I get it, company motto. DUST is not pay to win... Sure. It is, its not a secret, and rather obvious. I don't mind paying for development compensation for a game I wish to support, and Unreal 3's royalty licence is by no means cheap. I especially Do not mind a P2W that, should i happen to be short in RL i can still participate and progress in, in a meaningful capacity. However contributing 20 dollars monthly a for a Merc pack is steep. Especially when you refuse to use the Fused Locus grenades out of principle. Well that, and I already have 3 Dragonfly Dropsuits and Toxin SMG's per account. I know slimier request have been made before, however I did not feel it was wise to Necro an older thread to a newer audience. I disagree with Dust being pay to win. The only currencies you need are time and friends. A squad of well coordinated militias could easily take down dumb protos. I do agree with the idea of a subscription to get passive SP boosters but in fairness they are already in the game. We just have them last a week. Also, the merc pack gives you 5 weeks plus 30 days of passive SP boost if you spend all the Aurum on boosters. In summary: - Subscription for 30 day passive boosters: Yes - Price should be calculated to be the same as what you can get from buying the merc pack (I'd do the maths but I'm not at home to check figures). This^ Sorry OP, if you're spending $20 per month on Dust, and that is something you DON'T want to do, then you're doing something wrong. As it stands, paying for Dust would be more around $8-$10 per month (waiting for 30-day booster to expire, then consuming all aurum on active + passive boosters BEFORE buying another merc pack). Which is cheaper than an EVE sub. How about not buying aurum weapons? (if you do) But as someone pointed out the militia bpos are a rip off, plain and simple. Charging so much aurum for something that, if folks compared prices/stats with, is simply not worth anything. Example: Thale Militia Scout vs. Dragonfly Type-1 Scout. Pound for dollar, the thale suit just isn't worth the place in between both that it fell on. Price should come way down for them. Maybe 1k aurum. Can you buy the merc pack twice? JW. As for those militia dropsuits costing 20k Aurum, that is ridiculous, especially considering they have insignificant difference to the regular militia gear. However, CCP have probably done this so that players "collect them all" by purchasing two merc packs. IMO blueprint suits should cost a fortune, but should be comparable to top tier gear, and have all those inbetween. Maybe a BPO prototype suit costs 40,000 Aurum, Advanced is 20k and anything before that is between 5-15k. I would like to see sales figures for those militia BPO's though, as I don't understand why anybody would buy them at this price.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 257	Posted - 2013.03.14 09:06:00 - [17] - Quote RINON114 wrote: Can you buy the merc pack twice? JW. As for those militia dropsuits costing 20k Aurum, that is ridiculous, especially considering they have insignificant difference to the regular militia gear. However, CCP have probably done this so that players "collect them all" by purchasing two merc packs. IMO blueprint suits should cost a fortune, but should be comparable to top tier gear, and have all those inbetween. Maybe a BPO prototype suit costs 40,000 Aurum, Advanced is 20k and anything before that is between 5-15k. I would like to see sales figures for those militia BPO's though, as I don't understand why anybody would buy them at this price. You can buy the merc pack as many times as you like but I still don't think spending anything at all is really that worth it. That's just my personal opinion. But people whining about the cost of something that NEVER runs out and costs you no ISK to play with each game (allowing you to stockpile isk massively!) - that doesn't make sense. An infinite supply for zero isk is also the reason there will never be BPOs for anything above standard gear - this has been stated by CCP. You should only be able to be truly competitive in a match if you're risking something every time you step on the battlefield - BPOs = no loss of money, so no risk.


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