Gusk, it sounds like you're trying to solo nine guys with AV weapons in a vehicle. Is there *any* possible way around that? Such as, getting your team mates to go round in an assault suit and kill them with ARs...? It doesn't matter WHAT tech level the AV weapons are, you really shouldn't try to take on more than one or two in a vehicle.

Hell, I've never been a vehicle player, but that much seems obvious.

Sounds like you ran out into a hail of fire, went behind a hill to rep, then went forwards again. Knowing full well they were there. Sounds fairly straightforward to me. Sure, you're stuck, but that's more from good tactics on their part (or bad, as they're nine on one, leaving a mismatch on other parts of the map) rather than cheap weapons.

In short... Yes, no, yes.

Yes, because can you imagine a team of nubs being killed by guys in LAV's, simply because they can't afford a basic AV loadout? Or being completely useless to dropships flying around overhead, raining rockets on their heads?

I said no to this, but what do you mean? Do you mean a weapon which can work equally well against infantry and vehicles, but not as effectively as, say, an AR against the former and a forge gun against the latter? If so, then no. It'd be fairly simple to run around with a T2 version of that weapon and kill everyone.

And yes, I would love to have an entire team go nuts to kill me, simply because I'm a team player. Oh, and it's a slight ego boost. I'd rather have ten guys try to kill me, and my team get the objective, than one guy try to kill me and we lose the match.

So everyone trolling this thread is cute, but really. Grow up.

The problem isn't one free swarm. One free swarm sucks.

The problem is that with no skill points and no ISK, any team can switch, as a large group to free AV and harass/eliminate a vehicle in a very unbalanced way. Same issue with militia forge guns. Where as the problem with regular forge guns is simply that FG and AV in general are balanced against Tanks, which are HAV. Something like a dropship is thrown totally under the bus at a still hefty price tag of almost a million a pop.

The problem is that for close to no or little cost, and no SP at all, a team can effortlessly wipe out a players million+ ISK vehicle with their millions + SP invested simply by having the will to do so.

A Proto heavy costs about the same, what stops him from getting zerg rushed by 9 guys with free militia assault rifles? His teammates, get over yourself.

Militia HAV? Hahaha.

Seriously, get real. You can easily best one or two militia AV loadouts. Seven? Who cares?! You've won the match. Get over yourself.

Was there a point behind that other than proto heavy suits suck?


It takes forever for them to lock on, your teammates had more than enough time to kill them before they launched them.


lol you think getting taken out by 9 swarm launchers makes you a glass cannon?

It sounds to me like your team sucked and the other team didn't, but I have a question. Did your team win?

This way is better. Militia gear is supposed to be able to kill militia gear relatively well. It does. There's also a militia pistol that, with only 2~3 headshots can drop the toughest heavy. That pistol is on most starter suits. That far out does your free militia vs paid for militia example, this is a free militia vs proto heavy. Should we remove those FREE pistols too?

If the other team is smart enough to gang up on your tank, it's good tactics on their part. Also, bad judgement on yours for bringing in a tank you were not ready to lose to militia gear. If you aren't prepared to lose something for any stupid reason, don't bring it in. I've ran across maps and had people randomly spawn in front of me in Vk.1 suits while I'm in a 100% free dragonfly shotgun suit. It might not be fair for them, but they shouldn't have brought it if they weren't prepared to lose it.

Where did they say that?

And people are focusing on Tanks because currently tanks are the only vehicles worth Investing in.
Drop Ships are nice for teamwork and all, but the pilot himself doesn't actually gain anything for it.
LAvs are pretty much disposable.

Then your reward come from the uplinks, not the Dropships. Dropships suck, my condolences go out to all those brave and selfless pilots