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ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:00:00 -
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Good evening mercs,
As the leaders of the Free mercenary world, we believe pub-stomping is a problem, and it should be dealt with. However, it is not our problem. Until a better source of income becomes present, we will continue to run in a tight unit fully equipped to deal with any situation. We are here to Win and Profit nothing more and nothing less. Proto gear insures for fast and flawless games, which only increases corp returns.
To new players, we agree the skill point gap is an issue, but this again is not our problem. Furthermore, many Corps including the Imperfects have set up training corps for new players. For example, IMP Swarm and many others. Until outside forces influence our decision. The Imperfects will continue to Pub-Stomp in full High-end Gear regardless of public opinion.
Thank you for your time |
TheMarkOf22
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:02:00 -
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Will you also continue your fear tactics when facing me? |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:03:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Will you also continue your fear tactics when facing me?
No comment... |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:03:00 -
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I believe this man to be a imposter. Imperfects have no public relations, only targets. |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:04:00 -
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In other news, Imperfects show their true colors yet again :D |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:06:00 -
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Health mods are OP. |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:08:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Health mods are OP.
^Complains about heavies, yet has heavy's health... |
ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:17:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Health mods are OP. ^Complains about heavies, yet has heavy's health...
^ Makes his AR to be 43% stronger |
Dusters BIog
GaIactic News Network
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:18:00 -
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If you ever want to give an interview about your public match achievements, please contact me [email protected] |
TheMarkOf22
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:18:00 -
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ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:TheMarkOf22 wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Health mods are OP. ^Complains about heavies, yet has heavy's health... ^ Makes his AR to be 43% stronger
Health> all TBH |
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ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:24:00 -
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Dusters BIog wrote:If you ever want to give an interview about your public match achievements, please contact me [email protected]
Imperfects as of right now is not taking interviews. We will let you know when we feel it is necessary to disclose more information. |
Wicked Glory
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:30:00 -
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Shut the **** up. |
Gunner Nightingale
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:44:00 -
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PROTO Logi/ PROTO MD, 3-4complex dmg mods= LOL you took cover, prepare to DEI !!! |
semperfi1999
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:58:00 -
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I think Regnum just makes alts for better trolling purposes.
However there is much truth in this thread. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:58:00 -
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I will be mastering my team kill techniques just for you |
Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
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Posted - 2013.03.11 22:59:00 -
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God the day nerds got big you kids are so sad go outside. And saying it's not our problem is saying we 100% agree with pub stomping. |
Wicked Glory
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:02:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:God the day nerds got big you kids are so sad go outside. And saying it's not our problem is saying we 100% agree with pub stomping. I completely agree. |
ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:05:00 -
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Wicked Glory wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:God the day nerds got big you kids are so sad go outside. And saying it's not our problem is saying we 100% agree with pub stomping. I completely agree.
I smell Jelly |
Wicked Glory
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:07:00 -
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ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:Wicked Glory wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:God the day nerds got big you kids are so sad go outside. And saying it's not our problem is saying we 100% agree with pub stomping. I completely agree. I smell Jelly I completely agree. |
ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:10:00 -
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Wicked Glory wrote:ReGnUM Slayer ofWorlds wrote:Wicked Glory wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:God the day nerds got big you kids are so sad go outside. And saying it's not our problem is saying we 100% agree with pub stomping. I completely agree. I smell Jelly I completely agree.
OUCH Dust Jesus has spoken! |
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TheBLAZZED
VENGEANCE FOR HIRE
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:11:00 -
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Mmmmm.... jelly |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:15:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Dusters BIog wrote:If you ever want to give an interview about your public match achievements, please contact me [email protected] Imperfects as of right now is not taking interviews. We will let you know when we feel it is necessary to disclose more information.
Our first interview will coincide with Regnum PR's annocement for CSM. Until then we are on media blackout. |
Coleman Gray
RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:42:00 -
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If everyone had your attitude the public matches would be more intense. |
Free Beers
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:00:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:If everyone had your attitude the public matches would be more intense.
I see a **** ton of b series and proto suits against me all the time. Also if you see aka misfit in a black suit with proto logis behind him call in a tank |
Green Living
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:18:00 -
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DustersBlog states that the Imperfects are the new STB. |
Thog A Kuma
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:24:00 -
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If something needs to be fixed, CCP needs to be the one who fixes it. Our job is to take the tools we are given and win with them.
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Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:35:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: As the leaders of the Free mercenary world, we believe pub-stomping is a problem, and it should be dealt with. However, it is not our problem. Until a better source of income becomes present, we will continue to run in a tight unit fully equipped to deal with any situation. We are here to Win and Profit nothing more and nothing less. Proto gear insures for fast and flawless games, which only increases corp returns.
I'm glad you make it clear through your name and corp name that this is a public relations tool of rhetoric! Because the argument is blindingly stupid, for two reasons: * Lose one proto suit with expensive gear means lose almost your entire match's profits -- you'll make much more money reliably with a free suit, even if the raw profits per match are lower. Lose one suit, waste the battle's profits. * The teeny amounts of isk we currently make from battles will pale in comparison to the ISK that will be made when the EVE/Dust link is increased -- particularly when other modes of Dust income (e.g., district control) are raised to be more in line with current ISK making activities in EVE
Even if they introduce a 50% tax rate to transfer money from EVE to Dust, you'll still have your paltry pub battle isk outclassed in no time.
But I understand that your OP was all about the fun of rhetoric and propaganda that helps makes EVE Online the kind of universe it is. But at least try to make your rhetoric sound half believable. |
Booby Tuesdays
THE DOLLARS
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:39:00 -
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Any newbies reading this thread, take heed. The pub stompings will only get worse until the larger and better equipped corps have better things to do and fight for. Until then, if you see any large corp (or several for that matter) squaded up in a pub match, know that you're going to die. You're going to face better tactics and equipment. The only solution besides bitching about it on the interweb, is to fight back. Throw the match if you have to. Sacrifice your precious k/d ratio and take out as many proto suits as you can. Set them back a couple million ISK. Team up, use dirty tactics, cook some grenades and run straight at them if you have to. Give them a reason to not want to use their higher tier gear that they have earned. Getting your ass handed to you isn't fun, but hopefully you learn something that makes you a better player. When the masses realize they can do some swarming of their own, maybe then we'll see less pubstomps. In the end, the game's free, so have some fun with it folks. |
Rolf The Viking
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:49:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Any newbies reading this thread, take heed. The pub stompings will only get worse until the larger and better equipped corps have better things to do and fight for. Until then, if you see any large corp (or several for that matter) squaded up in a pub match, know that you're going to die. You're going to face better tactics and equipment. The only solution besides bitching about it on the interweb, is to fight back. Throw the match if you have to. Sacrifice your precious k/d ratio and take out as many proto suits as you can. Set them back a couple million ISK. Team up, use dirty tactics, cook some grenades and run straight at them if you have to. Give them a reason to not want to use their higher tier gear that they have earned. Getting your ass handed to you isn't fun, but hopefully you learn something that makes you a better player. When the masses realize they can do some swarming of their own, maybe then we'll see less pubstomps. In the end, the game's free, so have some fun with it folks.
Well said. Complaining isn't worth it. Every expensive tank or proto suit I kill makes me feel delightful. Even if I'm getting stomped haha.
I can understand why newbies hate it though, it's only going to get tougher to come in as a newberry with each passing weekly sp cap. |
Technical-Support
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:50:00 -
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Rolf The Viking wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Any newbies reading this thread, take heed. The pub stompings will only get worse until the larger and better equipped corps have better things to do and fight for. Until then, if you see any large corp (or several for that matter) squaded up in a pub match, know that you're going to die. You're going to face better tactics and equipment. The only solution besides bitching about it on the interweb, is to fight back. Throw the match if you have to. Sacrifice your precious k/d ratio and take out as many proto suits as you can. Set them back a couple million ISK. Team up, use dirty tactics, cook some grenades and run straight at them if you have to. Give them a reason to not want to use their higher tier gear that they have earned. Getting your ass handed to you isn't fun, but hopefully you learn something that makes you a better player. When the masses realize they can do some swarming of their own, maybe then we'll see less pubstomps. In the end, the game's free, so have some fun with it folks. Well said. Complaining isn't worth it. Every expensive tank or proto suit I kill makes me feel delightful. Even if I'm getting stomped haha. I can understand why newbies hate it though, it's only going to get tougher to come in as a newberry with each passing weekly sp cap.
I don't think you realize how much money some players have in this game. |
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Deluxe Edition
Like a Boss.
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:53:00 -
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and i will continue to enjoy feasting on the protos.. so tasty. |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:53:00 -
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Lol "leaders of free merc world" made me laugh Tank camping and redline sniping while pubstomping hardly makes u hard core
Also crushing newb corps in proto gear is not impressive either EDIT: NVM lol as I see you are a fake imperfect Rep lol Carry on |
Celvice Kleine
THE DOLLARS
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:58:00 -
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What is this I don't even. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:01:00 -
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Some of your players even quit when they see me on the leader broad. |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion
25
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:02:00 -
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Technical-Support wrote:
I don't think you realize how much money some players have in this game.
When you say "this game", do you mean Dust or EVE? I would agree that this is important to realise, once EVE isk can be transferred over, but right now it does not seem so important. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:11:00 -
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Winsaucerer wrote:Technical-Support wrote:
I don't think you realize how much money some players have in this game.
When you say "this game", do you mean Dust or EVE? I would agree that this is important to realise, once EVE isk can be transferred over, but right now it does not seem so important. Remember when isk could be transferred, every crappy free lav had chrome spinners |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:24:00 -
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Winsaucerer wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: As the leaders of the Free mercenary world, we believe pub-stomping is a problem, and it should be dealt with. However, it is not our problem. Until a better source of income becomes present, we will continue to run in a tight unit fully equipped to deal with any situation. We are here to Win and Profit nothing more and nothing less. Proto gear insures for fast and flawless games, which only increases corp returns.
I'm glad you make it clear through your name and corp name that this is a public relations tool of rhetoric! Because the argument is blindingly stupid, for two reasons: * Lose one proto suit with expensive gear means lose almost your entire match's profits -- you'll make much more money reliably with a free suit, even if the raw profits per match are lower. Lose one suit, waste the battle's profits. * The teeny amounts of isk we currently make from battles will pale in comparison to the ISK that will be made when the EVE/Dust link is increased -- particularly when other modes of Dust income (e.g., district control) are raised to be more in line with current ISK making activities in EVE Even if they introduce a 50% tax rate to transfer money from EVE to Dust, you'll still have your paltry pub battle isk outclassed in no time. But I understand that your OP was all about the fun of rhetoric and propaganda that helps makes EVE Online the kind of universe it is. But at least try to make your rhetoric sound half believable.
Yea heres the minor flaw in your assumption. It assumes that suits are lost. Even a death doesnt inherently mean a suit gets lost.
Sure you can get us with a MD, shotty, or a nade but thats few and far between and for some of our leet so exceedingly rare it is almost never. |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion
25
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:41:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Winsaucerer wrote:Technical-Support wrote:
I don't think you realize how much money some players have in this game.
When you say "this game", do you mean Dust or EVE? I would agree that this is important to realise, once EVE isk can be transferred over, but right now it does not seem so important. Remember when isk could be transferred, every crappy free lav had chrome spinners
I don't know what a "chrome spinner" is, but yes it's going to get much worse when EVE isk transfer is in :)
One possible way to balance would be to multiply all item costs by 10, and multiply pub battle profits by 10. That will probably bring things much more into line with EVE. This is not a perfect solution, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this happens before transfer is allowed. |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion
25
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:46:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:
Yea heres the minor flaw in your assumption. It assumes that suits are lost. Even a death doesnt inherently mean a suit gets lost.
Sure you can get us with a MD, shotty, or a nade but thats few and far between and for some of our leet so exceedingly rare it is almost never.
There is no such flaw. It only takes one death before running full-proto (or even partial proto) begins to seriously compare unfavourably to a freebie suit. And saying "some of our leet so exceedingly rare it is almost never" sounds like it is implying "only some of our very best players almost never die". Which means most of your players do need to face the reality of averaging one or more deaths per battle where gear is lost.
Maybe that's the truth -- by having ALL your players run lots of proto, some of your best players are able to manage not dying much (having support and all that). So that the rare few in your corp are profiting off the sacrifices of lesser players in your corp.
And my second point, about ISK income sources, stands firm too :) |
Gunner Nightingale
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:55:00 -
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Winsaucerer wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:
Yea heres the minor flaw in your assumption. It assumes that suits are lost. Even a death doesnt inherently mean a suit gets lost.
Sure you can get us with a MD, shotty, or a nade but thats few and far between and for some of our leet so exceedingly rare it is almost never.
There is no such flaw. It only takes one death before running full-proto (or even partial proto) begins to seriously compare unfavourably to a freebie suit. And saying "some of our leet so exceedingly rare it is almost never" sounds like it is implying "only some of our very best players almost never die". Which means most of your players do need to face the reality of averaging one or more deaths per battle where gear is lost. Maybe that's the truth -- by having ALL your players run lots of proto, some of your best players are able to manage not dying much (having support and all that). So that the rare few in your corp are profiting off the sacrifices of lesser players in your corp. And my second point, about ISK income sources, stands firm too :)
Actually its called good unit cohesion, map control, nanoinjectors and more important triage nanohives.
When the squad is in sync 1-2 loss may cut in profit but not by much when you're rocking the top of the boards.
Also now that everyone is running AUR proto suits, profits are going up for us so thanks for that. The whole i run miltia to isk farm excuse is cute and all but im pretty sure you can get better results in even just Std gear.
The problem most have is they equivalate death as loss, sorry you dont run in squads or your squadmates can revive you. Oh yet another benefit to proto suits (everyone can run an injector). Throw a proto logi to the mix or a tank and yea deaths are very rare and when they do occur the suit isnt LOST since they get revived.
You can only kill my profit if you make me actually lose the suit. |
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
509
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:59:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:You can only kill my profit if you make me actually lose the suit. And that is why I like grenades and forge guns. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.12 04:07:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:You can only kill my profit if you make me actually lose the suit. And that is why I like grenades and forge guns.
Maybe but, im like the eye of sauron. You really dont want to risk you ending up upon my gaze and the wrath that would ensue. |
Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion
25
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Posted - 2013.03.12 04:11:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:Actually its called good unit cohesion, map control, nanoinjectors and more important triage nanohives. When the squad is in sync 1-2 loss may cut in profit but not by much when you're rocking the top of the boards. Also now that everyone is running AUR proto suits, profits are going up for us so thanks for that. The whole i run miltia to isk farm excuse is cute and all but im pretty sure you can get better results in even just Std gear. The problem most have is they equivalate death as loss, sorry you dont run in squads or your squadmates can revive you. Oh yet another benefit to proto suits (everyone can run an injector). Throw a proto logi to the mix or a tank and yea deaths are very rare and when they do occur the suit isnt LOST since they get revived. You can only kill my profit if you make me actually lose the suit.
Now you've changed from your original claim. Now you're trying to suggest to me that most matches most of your players don't lose a suit when running proto. Is that what you're really claiming? I find it interesting how you've had to make a stronger claim than you did originally to escape my point, but without admitting that you've changed your claim at all. Let's settle on what it is exactly that you're claiming first, before we move on in the conversation: Is your claim that most matches most of your players lose nothing when running proto?
NB. I am not claiming that running free suits is the best way to make isk. My point was about the pathetic argument in the OP claiming that proto squads is the best way. Seems to me that full proto in an organised group and freebie suits are roughly on par. And the pathetic isk we make in pub battles anyway is peanuts compared to the *real* profits that are yet to come. Enjoy your personal wealth of 100 mil or whatever it is you could have made by now. Won't matter once ISK transfer is in, so why the urgency to make ISK? Or are you telling me you guys haven't played EVE, so you need to live off these scraps? All these things you and the OP say are just excuses to "pub stomp", and weak excuses at that.
And a further note, it's going to be better for your player skill to do pub matches in weaker suits than proto suits. Think of how much better you'll be as a player if you can dominate when you have inferior equipment to your enemy. So freebie/cheap suits = roughly same isk made, AND better practice.
Overall, the arguments in favour of pub stomping are stupid, and come down to only one argument that could be considered reasonable: it's fun for me to pub stomp with proto gear, because I like to dominate, so nyah and suck it up (we all like to win, don't we?). Forget all these other excuses about "better for making isk" or whatever. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.12 04:25:00 -
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Winsaucerer wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:Actually its called good unit cohesion, map control, nanoinjectors and more important triage nanohives. When the squad is in sync 1-2 loss may cut in profit but not by much when you're rocking the top of the boards. Also now that everyone is running AUR proto suits, profits are going up for us so thanks for that. The whole i run miltia to isk farm excuse is cute and all but im pretty sure you can get better results in even just Std gear. The problem most have is they equivalate death as loss, sorry you dont run in squads or your squadmates can revive you. Oh yet another benefit to proto suits (everyone can run an injector). Throw a proto logi to the mix or a tank and yea deaths are very rare and when they do occur the suit isnt LOST since they get revived. You can only kill my profit if you make me actually lose the suit. Now you've changed from your original claim. Now you're trying to suggest to me that most matches most of your players don't lose a suit when running proto. Is that what you're really claiming? I find it interesting how you've had to make a stronger claim than you did originally to escape my point, but without admitting that you've changed your claim at all. Let's settle on what it is exactly that you're claiming first, before we move on in the conversation: Is your claim that most matches most of your players lose nothing when running proto? NB. I am not claiming that running free suits is the best way to make isk. My point was about the pathetic argument in the OP claiming that proto squads is the best way. Seems to me that full proto in an organised group and freebie suits are roughly on par. And the pathetic isk we make in pub battles anyway is peanuts compared to the *real* profits that are yet to come. Enjoy your personal wealth of 100 mil or whatever it is you could have made by now. Won't matter once ISK transfer is in, so why the urgency to make ISK? Or are you telling me you guys haven't played EVE, so you need to live off these scraps? All these things you and the OP say are just excuses to "pub stomp", and weak excuses at that. And a further note, it's going to be better for your player skill to do pub matches in weaker suits than proto suits. Think of how much better you'll be as a player if you can dominate when you have inferior equipment to your enemy. So freebie/cheap suits = roughly same isk made, AND better practice. Overall, the arguments in favour of pub stomping are stupid, and come down to only one argument that could be considered reasonable: it's fun for me to pub stomp with proto gear, because I like to dominate, so nyah and suck it up (we all like to win, don't we?). Forget all these other excuses about "better for making isk" or whatever.
Me having to clarify my argument for you to understand it better doesnt make it that my argument has changed. I still accept your premise is correct for "normal" players just not the beast GAWDS. Will that hold true when you take vets against vets.... depends on the vets on each side. Those matches are few and far between.
In the meantime we're dust rich so we may as well enjoy it. Moreover you can enjoy you're EVE wealth over on Dust won't change the fact that the RICHEST eve corps will want the best, and pay us handsomely for it. So you're right the Dust money is a pitance doesnt mean we're not enjoying it while we can. Oh and all you're money EVE side won't mean much if you don't have the personel it wont mean squat.
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Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion
25
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Posted - 2013.03.12 04:32:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote: Me having to clarify my argument for you to understand it better doesnt make it that my argument has changed. I still accept your premise is correct for "normal" players just not the beast GAWDS. Will that hold true when you take vets against vets.... depends on the vets on each side. Those matches are few and far between.
Except that you did change what you were saying, and not just clarify :) But if you don't want to clearly state what your claim is, I don't care too much. The argument in the OP is stupid, and so it makes sense that you don't want to state this argument clearly.
Quote:In the meantime we're dust rich so we may as well enjoy it. Moreover you can enjoy you're EVE wealth over on Dust won't change the fact that the RICHEST eve corps will want the best, and pay us handsomely for it. So you're right the Dust money is a pitance doesnt mean we're not enjoying it while we can. Oh and all you're money EVE side won't mean much if you don't have the personel it wont mean squat.
And here we come to some agreement. As I said at the end of my last post, I think the only real argument you can use in favour of pub stomping is "because I want to". And that's what you've said here. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
710
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Posted - 2013.03.12 04:32:00 -
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4447 wrote:Some of your players even quit when they see me on the leader broad.
And I think you must be playing another game and thinking it's DUST. Why would anyone ever quit out of a game where ZION players are on the other side? All that means to me is I'm going to make more isk than usual in that match.
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Winsaucerer
The Southern Legion
25
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Posted - 2013.03.12 04:37:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:So enjoy playing in miltia gear for that larger DUST ISK while telling me its irrelevant once we can get EVE money
I don't know where you got the idea that I play (and enjoy playing) in militia gear. Did that claim feature in my argument somewhere as a premise? Is it relevant to the discussion?
I don't see the value in waving around eve-peen. I just don't like stupid arguments like the one in the OP (and I'm a sucker for engaging in arguments).
Also, I agree that practicing in proto gear is helpful! But running proto all the time mostly against players who don't can only make you weaker than those players that practice in both proto and when they're outclassed. I can't see how you could believe otherwise. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
333
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Posted - 2013.03.12 04:40:00 -
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Winsaucerer wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:So enjoy playing in miltia gear for that larger DUST ISK while telling me its irrelevant once we can get EVE money I don't know where you got the idea that I play (and enjoy playing) in militia gear. Did that claim feature in my argument somewhere as a premise? Is it relevant to the discussion? I don't see the value in waving around eve-peen. I just don't like stupid arguments like the one in the OP (and I'm a sucker for engaging in arguments). Also, I agree that practicing in proto gear is helpful! But running proto all the time mostly against players who don't can only make you weaker than those players that practice in both proto and when they're outclassed. I can't see how you could believe otherwise.
Ever play sports?
Ever see what happens to a team that practices at half speed instead of continously at full speed, even against the outclassed practice squad?
Then you have your answer. |
Jack Sharkey42
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
31
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Posted - 2013.03.12 04:50:00 -
[49] - Quote
MMO shootr is most srs of bizness |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
333
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Posted - 2013.03.12 04:53:00 -
[50] - Quote
Is this thing an instant classic or what? |
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
516
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Posted - 2013.03.12 06:24:00 -
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4447 wrote:Some of your players even quit when they see me on the leader broad.
they just want a challenge |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
495
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Posted - 2013.03.12 07:07:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:In the meantime we're dust rich so we may as well enjoy it. Moreover you can enjoy you're EVE wealth over on Dust won't change the fact that the RICHEST eve corps will want the best, and pay us handsomely for it. So you're right the Dust money is a pitance doesnt mean we're not enjoying it while we can. Oh and all you're money EVE side won't mean much if you don't have the personel it wont mean squat. LOL no.
As one of those rich capsuleers, I can tell you we don't care much about 'the best'. If the enemy decides to hire 'the best' then those battles will be fought by random corps, hell I'd roll with alt accounts doing LAV destruction derby or just run around trying to hide from reds.
The alliance that spent all that ISK on hiring 'the best' would pay out their nose for a few mercs, while 'the bestest' self-absorbed stat conscious overachievers would be out of a proper battle. (BTW, don't doubt they would do this, considering the utter tedium we eve players expose ourselves to in the name of sov warfare)
And while this is going on, the smart alliance hires lots and lots of mercs on the cheap to do battle across every enemy system. |
Sheriff Clark
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
93
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Posted - 2013.03.12 07:11:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Good evening mercs,
As the leaders of the Free mercenary world, we believe pub-stomping is a problem, and it should be dealt with. However, it is not our problem. Until a better source of income becomes present, we will continue to run in a tight unit fully equipped to deal with any situation. We are here to Win and Profit nothing more and nothing less. Proto gear insures for fast and flawless games, which only increases corp returns.
To new players, we agree the skill point gap is an issue, but this again is not our problem. Furthermore, many Corps including the Imperfects have set up training corps for new players. For example, IMP Swarm and many others. Until outside forces influence our decision. The Imperfects will continue to Pub-Stomp in full High-end Gear regardless of public opinion.
Thank you for your time You are no longer being considered for the role of Deputy. You may only hold one office or title if you want to be a part of the Sheriff's Office. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
79
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Posted - 2013.03.12 08:36:00 -
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the irony about this thread is that imperfect squads lose plenty of pub matches while "stomping"
Green Living wrote:DustersBlog states that the Imperfects are the new STB. if you mean that they are tank whoring and still losing the match then yes, I have seen it happen plenty of times |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2013.03.12 08:51:00 -
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so, no more owling on rooftops like a bunch of nubs anymore?!?! *shock* |
Gusk Hevv
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.03.12 08:55:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:the irony about this thread is that imperfect squads lose plenty of pub matches while "stomping" Green Living wrote:DustersBlog states that the Imperfects are the new STB. if you mean that they are tank whoring and still losing the match then yes, I have seen it happen plenty of times it is really funny to watch when they run for their lives to cover after a single forge gun hit because their expensive tank got a bit of damage
Well I'm not defending STB nor Imperfects here but unfortunately that's how you tank in dust ,GTFO when hit and approach from a new angle. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1190
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Posted - 2013.03.12 09:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:Good evening mercs,
As the leaders of the Free mercenary world, we believe pub-stomping is a problem, and it should be dealt with. However, it is not our problem. Until a better source of income becomes present, we will continue to run in a tight unit fully equipped to deal with any situation. We are here to Win and Profit nothing more and nothing less. Proto gear insures for fast and flawless games, which only increases corp returns.
To new players, we agree the skill point gap is an issue, but this again is not our problem. Furthermore, many Corps including the Imperfects have set up training corps for new players. For example, IMP Swarm and many others. Until outside forces influence our decision. The Imperfects will continue to Pub-Stomp in full High-end Gear regardless of public opinion.
Thank you for your time
Is this anything else but "blah" ? Cause honestly, i dont care about your pub-stomping policy. And honestly, what corp would go "oh ok, i'll play nice and play with crappy stuff because aint no fair for you"
So yeah, not a usefull thread. /WhoCares /ShouldBeInLockerRoom |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
79
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Posted - 2013.03.12 10:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Gusk Hevv wrote:Jack McReady wrote:the irony about this thread is that imperfect squads lose plenty of pub matches while "stomping" Green Living wrote:DustersBlog states that the Imperfects are the new STB. if you mean that they are tank whoring and still losing the match then yes, I have seen it happen plenty of times it is really funny to watch when they run for their lives to cover after a single forge gun hit because their expensive tank got a bit of damage Well I'm not defending STB nor Imperfects here but unfortunately that's how you tank in dust ,GTFO when hit and approach from a new angle. if you run for cover after someone scratches your shields then you are useless. I was randomly placed in the team with one of those "stomp" squads this weekend several times. they had 2 tanks running but those tanks pretty much lost us the game every time because they were only hiding in some corner the majority of the game. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
966
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Posted - 2013.03.12 10:36:00 -
[59] - Quote
Moving this from General Discussions to the War Room. |
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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
689
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Posted - 2013.03.12 11:48:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:4447 wrote:Some of your players even quit when they see me on the leader broad. And I think you must be playing another game and thinking it's DUST. Why would anyone ever quit out of a game where ZION players are on the other side? All that means to me is I'm going to make more isk than usual in that match.
I don't believe IMPS are that good because i dominate some of your good players. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
931
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Posted - 2013.03.12 11:51:00 -
[61] - Quote
TheMarkOf22 wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Health mods are OP. ^Complains about heavies, yet has heavy's health...
man speaks the truth |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
333
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Posted - 2013.03.12 15:36:00 -
[62] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:In the meantime we're dust rich so we may as well enjoy it. Moreover you can enjoy you're EVE wealth over on Dust won't change the fact that the RICHEST eve corps will want the best, and pay us handsomely for it. So you're right the Dust money is a pitance doesnt mean we're not enjoying it while we can. Oh and all you're money EVE side won't mean much if you don't have the personel it wont mean squat. LOL no. As one of those rich capsuleers, I can tell you we don't care much about 'the best'. If the enemy decides to hire 'the best' then those battles will be fought by random corps, hell I'd roll with alt accounts doing LAV destruction derby or just run around trying to hide from reds. The alliance that spent all that ISK on hiring 'the best' would pay out their nose for a few mercs, while 'the bestest' self-absorbed stat conscious overachievers would be out of a proper battle. (BTW, don't doubt they would do this, considering the utter tedium we eve players expose ourselves to in the name of sov warfare) And while this is going on, the smart alliance hires lots and lots of mercs on the cheap to do battle across every enemy system.
So what you're saying is you'll concede the theatre of war to us. Ill enjoy taking your stuffs/ |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
710
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Posted - 2013.03.12 17:03:00 -
[63] - Quote
4447 wrote:I don't believe IMPS are that good because i dominate some of your good players.
I don't believe ZION is that good because you get dominated every match.
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
540
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Posted - 2013.03.12 19:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
4447 wrote:Cyn Bruin wrote:4447 wrote:Some of your players even quit when they see me on the leader broad. And I think you must be playing another game and thinking it's DUST. Why would anyone ever quit out of a game where ZION players are on the other side? All that means to me is I'm going to make more isk than usual in that match. I don't believe IMPS are that good because i dominate some of your good players.
in your dreams |
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