Tell that to my Shotgun.

As hilarious as that would be... no.

Everything should have some measure of limit on its effective range.

I think Scout and Heavies are getting annoyed, because Assaults are not longer an easy target.......

When i 1st started my Assault class, was a horrible experience, just target practice for Heavies and shotgun scouts. Now after "millions" of SP invested on it, i starting to hold my ground against them.

Like CCP will say ;

HTFU !!!!!

Well if the Assault Rifle is meant to be a mid/long range weapon (which it's not.. It's a ******* blaster.. It's supposed to have the shortest range...) where's the competition for the 80-100+ m range?

Laser Rifle - Which a good portion fo the community thinks is OP despite it not having any spread (making it a 100% skill weapon) and skills that don't work - at all.

Sniper Rifle - Does it's job well, as is the case with my story. I ran 11/1 in the match that I brought this issue up using the Sniper Rifle and it was solely because the enemy was tight-knit and working together with (you guessed it) Assault Rifles.

The only other weapons that hit out to 100m are Anti-Vehicle Weapons, which aren't dependable for infantry combat.

So the only frakking thing you can do about it is use those two weapons, in which you sacrifice your close range capability.

The assault rifle does NOT sacrifice close range capability and has absolutely no drawbacks to it's use. Where's the balance here?

-Eye roll-

As far my needing to be a better sniper - that's entirely based on opinion. I lived through this event and we were victorious, I had a 10 - 1 KDR and my isk lost was remarkably favorable by comparison if I had gone a front-line unit. You can't base "needing to be a better sniper" on the range of the fact; it's the shot that matters.

I'm not going to lie, it surprised the absolute hell of out me that he was even landing shots at 100m but to go so far as almost killing me with those shots is pushing my skepticism.

A real world rifle -IS- accurate at distances beyond 400-500 yards, that's true, but it's not firing 12.5 rounds a second when it's doing that. There IS such a thing as recoil and thats where it starts to be a video game.

If my real-world comparisons are not credible, neither are yours.

Honestly if this is the "short range" assault rifle, I don't care to play this game when the Caldari Rifle and/or the Scrambler Rifle enter play as Amarrians have -always- had more range than Gallente with some really well balanced damage, but since this is the basis then this game is going to absolutely suck.

Just saying, we don't see people specializing in weapons like Nova Knives because it's too inconveniencing. You see a few people specializing in the Laser Rifle but not nearly as much because there are DRAWBACKS to using it and having that kind of damage output.

The HMG? Same thing. Absolutely insane reload time and just to be able to use the damned thing you are -required- to play a Heavy.

Shotgun? You have to get up close and you don't have that much in the lines of ammunition.

This game is turning into ARs and MDs. We need to INFLUENCE Specialization and Diversity, NOT cliche FPS mechanics that are outright boring.

Edit: A -GALLENTE- Assault Rifle should have range about the same as the Submachine Gun being as the SMG is Minmatar in design - it's MEANT to have higher range than Hybrid Blaster technology. If this gun is spewing out plasma and dishing out loads of damage (which it is) it needs to act like it and have the drawbacks of a Blaster. If you want to hit at 80-100m, it should be necessary to use a different weapon... Liiiiike a Caldari Rifle, which probably will go off of railgun tech being as they're known for their range engagements.

So glad I give a **** about Free Beers' thoughts, I really am.

Stop trying to turn the game into Assault Rifle/Mass Drivers Online and we won't have an issue, you've clamored to nerf everything else - hell, you've bitched about every single grenade type that ever existed so your credibility is **** poor as is.

Same ****, different thread: "Omfg he said something about Assault Rifles - must instantly disagree to this because it's all anyone uses."

Seriously. I have yet to see -one- person say jack of **** about the issue at hand, just QQing about what the hell I'm doing with a Sniper Rifle. You guys are cheeky, if anything. Answer my question: Where's the ******* drawback on the Assault Rifle, eh? Not a single response on that one yet, just more trolling from the Goonswarm of Dust 514.

Grow a pair of balls and answer the question if you feel that this magical weapon has such an important "role" - and yes, some of us do "give a ****" about it being a blaster because this -IS EVE ONLINE-. not Section 8.

Lock this thread. Done with this bullshit. Game shouldn't even be on the PS3 in the first place because of dumb ******* like this.

If anything, consider that the light railguns in eve have 3 to 7 times (if i remember correctly) the range of their equivalent blaster, so wouldnt the ar's range be too short? No need to get so worked up about what the majority perfers

Okay, new post, because the last one was needlessly confrontational...

The game mechanic concept of a primary utility weapon vs. secondary niche weapons is a proven and true game mechanism.

But that balance is TERRIBLY off-set in favor of the AR right now, mainly because of its range.
It doesn't just do what the niche weapons do. It does what the niche weapons do, BETTER than the niche weapons.
THAT is the problem.

The AR can snipe at practically sniper ranges. (Because red zones on maps were tightened. Severely damaging the sniper niche.)
The AR can dps on par with an HMG and SMG. (and the SMG is supposed to be a utility weapon as well!)
Really, only the shotgun can shut it down quickly at close range.

Combine this weapon with assault suits that are ridiculously tanky, (especially since they shield tank, the shields bounce back faster than armor), and you have an omnipotent class. That renders the niche weapons/classes completely obsolete both in usefulness and combat. (exception: Logi)
How many times have you heard the words: "Useless snipers." and "Just range and headshot the heavies."?
If those niche roles were doing their roles effectively, no one would say that.

The effectiveness of the niche roles is less about the player skill and more about how it's ALLOWED to deal with the Assault class.
If you're supposed to win up-close as a proto-heavy, but a proto-assault eats you alive, something is unbalanced.
If you take a ton of time to set-up a sniper shot, and have tons of sway and difficulty sniping a target at 100+ meters, but an AR can simply snipe that in an instant, something is unbalanced.

But you're saying it's NOT the AR. lol right....
I know a bunch of heavies that have dropped playing their class, because they are rendered useless in their niches, and simply perform better in the assault.
I'm a pinch close, to never sniping again, depending on how many more changes CCP makes to favor the Jesus the savior, almighty Assault Suit/Rifle.

Really, at this rate, there will be no niche roles to be played, if people keep fussing about them.

The niche roles/weapons are on a path to uselessness at higher levels, if the AR range is not addressed.