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Aeon Amadi wrote:

-Eye roll-

As far my needing to be a better sniper - that's entirely based on opinion. I lived through this event and we were victorious, I had a 10 - 1 KDR and my isk lost was remarkably favorable by comparison if I had gone a front-line unit. You can't base "needing to be a better sniper" on the range of the fact; it's the shot that matters.

I'm not going to lie, it surprised the absolute hell of out me that he was even landing shots at 100m but to go so far as almost killing me with those shots is pushing my skepticism.

A real world rifle -IS- accurate at distances beyond 400-500 yards, that's true, but it's not firing 12.5 rounds a second when it's doing that. There IS such a thing as recoil and thats where it starts to be a video game.

If my real-world comparisons are not credible, neither are yours.

Honestly if this is the "short range" assault rifle, I don't care to play this game when the Caldari Rifle and/or the Scrambler Rifle enter play as Amarrians have -always- had more range than Gallente with some really well balanced damage, but since this is the basis then this game is going to absolutely suck.

Just saying, we don't see people specializing in weapons like Nova Knives because it's too inconveniencing. You see a few people specializing in the Laser Rifle but not nearly as much because there are DRAWBACKS to using it and having that kind of damage output.

The HMG? Same thing. Absolutely insane reload time and just to be able to use the damned thing you are -required- to play a Heavy.

Shotgun? You have to get up close and you don't have that much in the lines of ammunition.

This game is turning into ARs and MDs. We need to INFLUENCE Specialization and Diversity, NOT cliche FPS mechanics that are outright boring.

Edit: A -GALLENTE- Assault Rifle should have range about the same as the Submachine Gun being as the SMG is Minmatar in design - it's MEANT to have higher range than Hybrid Blaster technology. If this gun is spewing out plasma and dishing out loads of damage (which it is) it needs to act like it and have the drawbacks of a Blaster. If you want to hit at 80-100m, it should be necessary to use a different weapon... Liiiiike a Caldari Rifle, which probably will go off of railgun tech being as they're known for their range engagements.


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Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1216	Posted - 2013.03.14 15:42:00 - [1] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: -Eye roll- As far my needing to be a better sniper - that's entirely based on opinion. I lived through this event and we were victorious, I had a 10 - 1 KDR and my isk lost was remarkably favorable by comparison if I had gone a front-line unit. You can't base "needing to be a better sniper" on the range of the fact; it's the shot that matters. I'm not going to lie, it surprised the absolute hell of out me that he was even landing shots at 100m but to go so far as almost killing me with those shots is pushing my skepticism. A real world rifle -IS- accurate at distances beyond 400-500 yards, that's true, but it's not firing 12.5 rounds a second when it's doing that. There IS such a thing as recoil and thats where it starts to be a video game. If my real-world comparisons are not credible, neither are yours. Honestly if this is the "short range" assault rifle, I don't care to play this game when the Caldari Rifle and/or the Scrambler Rifle enter play as Amarrians have -always- had more range than Gallente with some really well balanced damage, but since this is the basis then this game is going to absolutely suck. Just saying, we don't see people specializing in weapons like Nova Knives because it's too inconveniencing. You see a few people specializing in the Laser Rifle but not nearly as much because there are DRAWBACKS to using it and having that kind of damage output. The HMG? Same thing. Absolutely insane reload time and just to be able to use the damned thing you are -required- to play a Heavy. Shotgun? You have to get up close and you don't have that much in the lines of ammunition. This game is turning into ARs and MDs. We need to INFLUENCE Specialization and Diversity, NOT cliche FPS mechanics that are outright boring. Edit: A -GALLENTE- Assault Rifle should have range about the same as the Submachine Gun being as the SMG is Minmatar in design - it's MEANT to have higher range than Hybrid Blaster technology. If this gun is spewing out plasma and dishing out loads of damage (which it is) it needs to act like it and have the drawbacks of a Blaster. If you want to hit at 80-100m, it should be necessary to use a different weapon... Liiiiike a Caldari Rifle, which probably will go off of railgun tech being as they're known for their range engagements. The AR has a role in this game and no one gives a ** that "It's a blaster and should only have 10 meter range in your mind". Stop trying to use "this is what its like in EvE" because ccp thought of that and decided on the AR we have. I kill ** snipers like you all the time that sit up high on a building thinking they are invisible ninjas. Then when they get shoot for sitting still in an open and obvious sniper camping spot they come to the forums and boo ***** who about it.