DUST Search - Trolling, Sexual Harassment, and CCP

King Kobrah wrote:

Dregan808 Sintori wrote:

King Kobrah wrote:

How about instead of being an immature child and demanding lifetime bans because of words on the internet from people you'll never meet, you use the MUTE function and continue to play? There's no excuse for not just muting them and moving on like an adult. HTFU

An immature child? Mute button? Mute didn't stop them from standing in front of her the entire game preventing her from shooting, it didn't stop them from standing around her shooting towards enemies long enough to get there attention so they would shoot her. Mute only stops part of the problem. Where you think this magical mute button is going to work is beyond me and exceptionally ignorant. Also to so openly and ignorantly claiming the uselessness of "words on the internet" shows your complete lack of information on how serious of a problem it is. I am making a post because my friends play this game to relieve stress of college, work, and military. These players aren't helping.

It's not against the rules to shoot at your teammates and stand infront of them as they shoot, you little baby *****. Blueberries do that to me every single game, and you don't see me demanding a lifetime ban. It's not a problem. Just because you have a vagina doesn't give you special treatment and earn men lifetime bans for an issue you can solve with one button press. if you can't handle words on the internet, I've got some very bad news for you in regards to the real world...HTFU


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Aeryn Orpaul Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.11 01:07:00 - [1] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: How about instead of being an immature child and demanding lifetime bans because of words on the internet from people you'll never meet, you use the MUTE function and continue to play? There's no excuse for not just muting them and moving on like an adult. HTFU Who the ** is the immature child here??? The idiots harassing some one because they are not the "normal" people they play with, or the person sticking up for his friend asking for a way to keep people from mistreating them for no reason so they can enjoy the game together? and actually, no, that is not the only problem here they are activity trying to ruin this woman's game, so it doesn't matter if she mutes them they will still continue to harass her in game. Truthfully the in game tools are *** horrible for preventing this . Report it to the email address that was posted above if they make a habit of it there will be enough complaints that ccp can ban them for that . I have zero tolerance for that , some ribbing is one thing, and even then its easy to go too far, but actively seeking to ruin someones time in game is another. GROW THE UP! to CCP this is not the first time this ** has come up for dust. I recommend watching this http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/harassment it proposes some interesting ideas that may not directly translate to this game but may give you some ideas on how to empower your players to help prevent this garbage.
Aeryn Orpaul Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.11 01:22:00 - [2] - Quote Fraceska wrote: Dregan808 Sintori wrote: So I was playing a match today with one of my female friends. She sets up as a sniper/scouter for our squid and calls in information as we are moving. The match starts and two guys, "Lieutenant Arc Angel" and "I'm Wilson", start shooting her and generally messing with her. They won't leave her alone. They then join our squad and start insulting her and women in general. She finally gets mad enough and insulted enough to shut down the console and since then won't play Dust. This wasn't the first time this has happened. So we go online just to find that CCP has no was of reporting issues like this. I'm a time when this issue has become so big they do nothing. 343i life-bans players that sexually harass female players, what does CCP do? How do you even report these actions? In EvE should this have happened you would get a lot of your friends together to form a fleet then hunt the bastards down and kill them. In Dust get 15 of your friends find them, challenge them, and grind their bones to dust over and over and over again. the difference is in eve you can hunt them down where ever they go until they quit the game hide in 0.0 or you are satisfied. in dust you cant beat their will to live out of them.
Aeryn Orpaul Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.11 01:38:00 - [3] - Quote King Kobrah wrote: Dregan808 Sintori wrote: King Kobrah wrote: How about instead of being an immature child and demanding lifetime bans because of words on the internet from people you'll never meet, you use the MUTE function and continue to play? There's no excuse for not just muting them and moving on like an adult. HTFU An immature child? Mute button? Mute didn't stop them from standing in front of her the entire game preventing her from shooting, it didn't stop them from standing around her shooting towards enemies long enough to get there attention so they would shoot her. Mute only stops part of the problem. Where you think this magical mute button is going to work is beyond me and exceptionally ignorant. Also to so openly and ignorantly claiming the uselessness of "words on the internet" shows your complete lack of information on how serious of a problem it is. I am making a post because my friends play this game to relieve stress of college, work, and military. These players aren't helping. It's not against the rules to shoot at your teammates and stand infront of them as they shoot, you little baby ***. Blueberries do that to me every single game, and you don't see me demanding a lifetime ban. It's not a problem. Just because you have a vagina doesn't give you special treatment and earn men lifetime bans for an issue you can solve with one button press. if you can't handle words on the internet, I've got some very bad news for you in regards to the real world...HTFU obviously arguing with you is pointless so instead I will attempt to demonstrate King Kobrah exactly what is wrong with this bull ** when it is targeted against individuals. I encourage everyone here to disrupt any game that you see King Kobrah in and please post a full list of his alts if you have them. This is not to harass someone who disagreed with me, but to demonstrate the problems of harassment. You are right, just because you have a vagina doesn't give you special treatment, and yet self righteous, self centered, idiots like you, seem to think that having a vagina means you deserve to be harassed for it.
Aeryn Orpaul Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:03:00 - [4] - Quote What I should point out that is worrisome here, is not the in game trolling(its part of new eden) or verbal harassment(that can be muted*) but the connection between the two. This is serious I mean not only was their verbal abuse but action against said player for the express reason that the player was a certain group of people. This is a dramatic lack of empathy here, and lack of (perceived)consequence for this action, against a real living person, which will only serve to embolden those who committed this hateful act. So yes the must be some consequence for this action, is a life time ban extreme? yes but there needs to be some action taken to show that this will not be tolerated here or in real life. The fact of the matter is that eve online while there is little in the way of rules, is ruled by the players. This sort of action in eve would be ended by the players, diplomacy, or at least isolation, is a must in EVE. This does not exists in dust, and may not for quite some time, and this could be a good thing, given the level of immaturity that seems ever present in the console community, but this means there must be some other way to enforce social pressures upon those who would see a group, or even the whole world burn.
Aeryn Orpaul Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:15:00 - [5] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: does it really matter? trolling is trolling is trolling No, it doesn't/shouldn't matter to the people on the receiving end, the people dishing it out are the problem. And don't try to dismiss the issue as simple "trolling", this is misogyny plain and simple. Tolerating and defending those pricks only encourages them. Edit: If this thread bothers you, then why don't you just "mute" it by ignoring it? it doesn't "bother me" it just seems weird to me that if i got the same treatment and posted it on here people would call me a wus and tell me to HTFU and NOONE would be on my side but because she is a female she deserves to be treated differently it has come to a day where if you troll a woman on the internet people want you perma banned and i completely disagree were the men right to comment on women of whatever? no i am not a sexist and fully believe in womens rights however i believe in EQUAL rights and they should not get a softer suger coated version of the internet you are missing the point, its not because people trolled a female that people are making a stink, it is because people troller her because she was a female. this is the heart of the issue, it seems like a meaningless semantic but it is far from it. taking some one ** is some thing we all deal with and is part of how we interact, how ever taking ** because someone has singled you out due to the fact that you fall into to a set of people is not acceptable any where any time.